Blaine Gabbert Signs With Jacksonville
Terms not yet disclosed, but Blaine will be in camp and get his career with the Jags up and running immediately.
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I read $12M but no years
That buys a crap-ton of this
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by SleepyFloyd7 on Jul 28, 2011 8:21 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Matter beat ya to it
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That’s a lot of asparagus RT @taniaganguli: Gabbert’s deal is worth $12 million fully guaranteed. Four years with a fifth year option.52 minutes ago via UberSocial for BlackBerry
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by Transmogrified Tiger on Jul 28, 2011 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
he always does.
The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.
by SleepyFloyd7 on Jul 28, 2011 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I dig it. Those bills look a bit over-cooked, however.
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by threadkiller on Jul 28, 2011 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Not to me
Sam Bradford for example is worth probably 200 million right now to Stan Kroenke. At least 200 million—-if Bradford or Suh etc were free agents, they would get PAID. I don’t think anyone is going to be feeling sorry for Mr. Bradford, but when we talk about the JaMarcus Russells of the world stealing money or what have you from the NFL, then by that logic Stan Kroenke is stealing money from Bradford. Now Jacksonville gets to steal LOTS of money from Gabbert if he pans out, and if Gabbert is a bust it’s practically an accounting error after non-guaranteed contracts.
A draft is already a rigged system financially given exclusive negotiating rights. If the owners didn’t feel like it was making them money to sign those players, then don’t sign the players! This is just one more ploy to make still more money on discounted players, and the union went along with it because it’s basically self-serving for veteran pay.
If there is a middle ground: it makes the most sense to me to have a series of one-year team options with salaries that would be appropriate for a star player.
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If Bradford and Suh were free agents they would get paid NOW
because they produced.
But to give someone who had ZERO track record coming into a new job $50M guaranteed for seven years based on potential is financial insanity, because it DOES keep money out of the pool for veteran players.
I don’t know of too many other industries where an unproven new employee gets more guaranteed pay than someone who has been in the industry for a number of years.
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by D-Sing on Jul 28, 2011 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
THIS
If Gabbert produces then he’ll get his, if hes doesn’t… then he didn’t deserve the money to begin with.
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by pinkelposse on Jul 28, 2011 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions
So what you're saying is
Bradford is now getting less than he is worth, the Russells of the world got more than he was worth…..it’s almost like those contracts pay about their expected value! Again, if the owners thought that they weren’t worth the money, then don’t sign the player.
And I know of lots of industries where an unproven new employee gets more guaranteed than someone else, in fact: literally every industry. You think an MIT graduate programmer gets paid more or less than a community college guy who has worked for a few years? How about a Harvard Law grad vs. a public defender who has been working for 5 years? It’s not perfect analogs, but you aren’t going to find a perfect analog because sports doesn’t compare to regular industries.
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yes, which is why these wage scales make more sense.
The Jamarcus Russells of the world aren’t getting paid more than they’re worth. And the Bradfords have to prove themselves before they get Bradford type money. And what you’re implying would be more like saying a 1st round pick gets paid more than a 7th round pick.
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by pinkelposse on Jul 28, 2011 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I just can't understand this mindset
So it’s perfectly okay for a billionaire to “unjustly” profit off of a player who is worth considerably more than what he’s getting paid, but it’s somehow evil for a player to unjustly profit off of a billionaire because he’s getting paid considerably more than what he’s worth. Gotcha. A superstar prospect is estimated to be “worth” 70 million dollars or whatever. How do I know that? Because owners paid that much for them, it’s just a logical truth. Either they are estimated to be worth that much money, or the owners we are seeking to protect are too dumb to be worth protecting. (And remember, this was with exclusive negotiating rights!)
Yes, the old system was stupid with 4-5 year contracts because it messes up the incentives of players etc + holdouts and all, but it’s just as stupid to have them insanely underpaid, which is what they are now. Like I said a system where it is a series of one year options at a star player’s salary after year 1 would solve all these problems. The Bradfords would get paid something close to what they are worth, the Russells would not get paid. Now no one gets paid…..until their 5th year. Why again should the owners be getting 4 discounted years?
Not afraid to nitpick
the public defender would probably get more actually
assuming the same firm was hiring them and the firm wasn’t looking for a transactional lawyer.
Putting that aside, the movie industry (which I think is pretty analagous to sports being they are both entertainment) pays the proven commodity more than the unproven.
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