Mizzou Links, 7-29-11
by Bill C. on Jul 29, 2011 5:31 AM CDT
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Just to build on last night's conversation, I wholeheartedly agree with tamping down the rookie pay scale and making young players earn big contracts. It is absolutely true that owners shouldn't have to be saved from themselves, and that if they want to pay big money for a young player, then in theory, they should be allowed to sacrifice their cap space. But 'in theory' it doesn't really work because all it takes is one crazy owner to ruin it for everybody else, and some aggressive agents to ruin it for everybody else. A cap that pays them well (let's face it: Blaine Gabbert is still making $12 million over four years, which is pretty awesome for a guy who was studying for business class finals a few months ago) but not too well is the way to go.
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Three thoughts:
1) I just haven't seen a better summation of the "Hold up on the 'paying players' thing" argument than Posnanski's. He said what I've been trying to figure out how to say for months.
2) I'm pretty sure Turner Gill looked "comfortable and prepared" heading into Year 1 too. The problem wasn't that he looked uncomfortable.
3) Damn right I called the "Oklahoma State needs to start dressing like Oregon" thing a couple of weeks ago ... as evidenced by the self-share below.
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Huzzah, Justin and Keith!
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The lesson: never recruit a big guy named Tiny.
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Seriously, when is collegiate MMA going to become a thing so we can finally win some national team titles?
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Evidently we're going to know Bradley's replacement soon, and the new guy is not going to be a surprise. Everybody assumes that means Klinsmann, and so do I because ... well, anybody else would be a surprise at this point. Bradley is a rock solid coach, and he produced some strong results, but while he wasn't completely to blame for the USMNT's recent struggles ... he obviously wasn't the answer, and it's time to try somebody else. I also don't know if Klinsmann's the answer, especially if Gulati and the like resist the major structural changes he will probably attempt to make, but it's time to find out about Klinsmann so we can quit talking about him.
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SI.com (Steve Davis): New U.S. men's national soccer coach won't lack for tasks
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They do it too, though as I recently learned on e-mail, they call it something different.
Could have SWORN they called it that…
So what are the chances we get completely boned if expansion does happen?
Yet again more people reporting “done deal” expansion talks, Yippee, we get to do this again!
GSwaim BigTime TV/Radio
If they took #Buffs & #Utes, there’s no doubt they’d take #Sooners, #Aggies, #OKState & #RedRaiders. Not so sure #Pac12 sold on #Mizzou.
God I hate Twitter…
Not going to lie...
…unlike last summer, I’m not even slightly paying attention to the rumors. I think it all started from A&M throwing a fit and Andy Staples theorizing what the SEC could do, and everything else has just stemmed from that. I’m sure “people” are “talking,” but I haven’t seen one even slightly legitimate rumor yet.
A lot COULD happen if A&M pulled the trigger, but a) I just don’t think they pull the trigger, and b) I really don’t even think there’s a legitimate offer on the table … I’m sure there have been discussions, but I have yet to see anything that makes me believe a concrete offer is in place.
Also...
…it cracked me up when Swaim was asked why no locals are reporting any of these rumors, and he said the “silence is deafening.” No, the silence is silent.
I know, these rumors have gotten pretty out of hand.
I’m sure no matter what happens we’ll end up in a solid conference.
by TheHamburglar on Jul 29, 2011 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions
It's almost TOO quiet.
Supporting the Kenji Jackson Approach for every day situations.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 29, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd for using my favorite cliche.
"My friend! My friend!" You big crybaby. Go bury him in the yard before he stinks up the place.
by threadkiller on Jul 29, 2011 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
The only ones breaking the silence are A&M fans
And they have no control and little influence over the situation.
As much as those fans think A&M is in a position to pull the trigger whenever the time is right, the real trigger puller is the SEC. The SEC is not going to expand unless events are such that it’s in their best interest to do so. When all hell was breaking loose last summer, the SEC considered it. With nothing of substance going on now, the SEC is not going to slice its revenue pie by 2 or 4 more slices.
I guess I'm three days older than MTV then
Since today is big 3-0 for ol’ Bonerfied. And I am definitely feeling the age today.
by CBonerfied on Jul 29, 2011 8:09 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
I guess I'm three days older than MTV then
Since today is big 3-0 for ol’ Bonerfied. And I am definitely feeling the age today.
by CBonerfied on Jul 29, 2011 8:09 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
in fact, you are so old you can't remember what you just posted
happy birthday, buddy. I will dedicate Rebecca Black’s Friday to you.
by mizzou2396 on Jul 29, 2011 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Thanks
I have to say everything twice just to remember that I said it. It’s a condition of aging. Or idiocy. One of the two.
by CBonerfied on Jul 29, 2011 11:31 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Do you have to say everything twice also?
Also, do you have to say things twice to remember you said them?
by CBonerfied on Jul 29, 2011 11:52 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
when you get to be my age you just come to grips with the lose of mental facilities
and just let it . . . Get off my lawn!!!!!! Hey, who the heck are you bub!?!?! Someone put Matlock on!!
That music sounds like a bunch of cats in heat.
accompanied by Edgar Winter.
Supporting the Kenji Jackson Approach for every day situations.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 29, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
You can always rely on
“Robots are everywhere, and they eat old people’s medicine for fuel.”
The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.
by SleepyFloyd7 on Jul 29, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
If Sam Waterston sells it
I’ll buy it.
by CBonerfied on Jul 29, 2011 1:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
or sam jackson!
twitter handle: @asstastic_o1
just because im over 300 pounds doesnt meant I dont have a great ass.
by BillSelfsToupee on Jul 29, 2011 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
wilford brimley.
"My friend! My friend!" You big crybaby. Go bury him in the yard before he stinks up the place.
by threadkiller on Jul 29, 2011 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
how old?
you don’t get respect until you’re 38.
"My friend! My friend!" You big crybaby. Go bury him in the yard before he stinks up the place.
by threadkiller on Jul 30, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks!
It should be a great day.
by CBonerfied on Jul 29, 2011 11:32 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Completely agree on your Klinsmann comment
IMO Klinsmann has pretty much kept the status quo at both jobs he has held. I know that 3rd in the World cup is a pretty nice result but he did it with a team playing on home soil with a country who is always in the conversation to win it all. Bayern Munich he was fired while in 2nd place again monster club doing OK. I hope that if we hire him he proves me wrong and blows people away. At the very least I know for a fact that he will qualify for the Cup in Brazil, of course any coach who fails to qualify the US out of CONCACAF should never ever coach another game. All that said. What I want is the impossible so he is probably the right choice and we could do a lot worse.
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
Maybe
I think it goes way deeper than that. I think the US team has reached the peak that our youth soccer culture will allow. We win games by hustle and hard work which works great against smaller countries but we can’t finish the big games because we have players that lack the technical skillsets that other countries teach kids from the time they start running. Our culture emphasizes winning so much that we have 8, 9 , 10, and 11 year old competive teams traveling the country trying to win the most prestigious tournaments. In Brazil most kids don’t even play a fully organized game until they are 12. They spend most of their time playing smaller games where players that don’t dribble and work on footskills are benched for passing too much. Some think that is teaching a player to be selfish but I don’t hear people describing the Brazilians as being a selfish me first team.
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
That's pretty spot on
I would just say it’s not that they encourage dribbling and bench players that pass to much, it’s that they bench players who can’t play in tight spaces. (for all you non soccer fans that’s like a QB who gets happy feet to quickly in the pocket and messes up the play for everyone). BUt I totally agree about the not play competitive leagues till later, that cuts down on the burn out rate as well. Also, American sports value measurable physical attributes to a fault, Messi’s 5’6" and not very strong, he’s also not fast, h’s quick, but not fast. In the US it would have been much harder for him to develop because he isn’t “built like an athlete.”
by bigtexas@mizzou on Jul 29, 2011 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
To continue the conversation about the NFL Rookie signings:
I like the way the MLB handles minor leagues pay, call up, team control, and even to the point of built in season incentives for Major league players and to some extent FA deals.
However I think the relative policing of contracts is controlled by the obsessive understanding of player output and the resultant worth to an organization.
One thing jumps to my mind is Albert Pujols. He has been drastically underpaid for his major league contributions (WAR) however now he is closing in on FA and will come to a crossroads. Does he get paid for what he is worth, and stays with the Cards potentially pigeon holing the organization to more heavily rely on their own farm system? Does he get paid what he’s worth with someone else? Or does he decide to take a little increase and still produce for the Cards?
The inherent checks and balances of MOST major league contracts lends it self to a fairly understandable and logical pay for output environment, and I love that the NFL is taking steps to control this rookie contracts that completely destabilize the contract landscape.
Supporting the Kenji Jackson Approach for every day situations.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 29, 2011 11:02 AM CDT reply actions
I have yet to figure out why leagues and player unions don't just figure our a scale based on production
and pay players base on the production they brought to the table. So in MLB, guys get the bulk of their pay in Nov./Dec. The precedent is there. It is call a commission schedule and most sales organizations have one. Pay for performance only. It would be like arbitration for every player every year.
The base pay is X and if you have an MVP/Cy Young type year, you get the max but if you have a terrible year, you get Z. Build in a standard pay package to handle injuries and go. The only difference between rookies and veterans is the minimum base they get throughout the rest of the year. I have never understood why a home run from Albert Pujols should be worth more than a home run from Billy Butler. What should be worth more is that Pujols hits 40 of them and Butler hits 15.
ku loves Missouri as every parasite has to have a host.
There has to be another component
Call me crazy, but guys like David Eckstein or (shudders) Dave Roberts or Scott Brosius, who seem to do more for their team’s beyond the stat sheet, should be able to be rewarded by choice of their owners. It would be like the guy in a commission company who may not produce “numbers” but takes on every tough task happily to make their workplace better.
by CBonerfied on Jul 29, 2011 11:57 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I am all for that.
Just think the pay scales should pay for the present rather than the past or future.
Paying players is like investing. Past results are not indicative of future performance. (See Carl Crawford).
The Royals overpaid Gil Meche for his past and he broke down physically before he could finish the contract.
The real reason this will never happen is it basically reduces the power of both the player’s union and the agents. The union would just have to develop the scale and the agents would only get to argue over years a player is with a team.
ku loves Missouri as every parasite has to have a host.
I guess that should be past performance is not indicative of future results.
EdwardJones’d
ku loves Missouri as every parasite has to have a host.
Ah, but for the first 2.5 years of Gils contract
it was actually spot on.
The rub is that one probably should not sign contracts that long to a SP, he broke down, and then the contract started to look bad.
Supporting the Kenji Jackson Approach for every day situations.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 29, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
klinsmann was just hired by the usmnt
twitter handle: @asstastic_o1
just because im over 300 pounds doesnt meant I dont have a great ass.
by BillSelfsToupee on Jul 29, 2011 11:37 AM CDT reply actions
eat snitzel?
twitter handle: @asstastic_o1
just because im over 300 pounds doesnt meant I dont have a great ass.
by BillSelfsToupee on Jul 29, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm more convinced than ever that Nebraska to the Big Ten was the right fit
@McMurphyCBS Brett McMurphy
Iowa-Nebraska trophy game will be called ‘The Heroes Game’
Who in the hell is in charge of branding in the Big Ten?
Apparently, Stan Lee.
/FictionalSuperHeroesunite
ku loves Missouri as every parasite has to have a host.
"The Heroes Game?" Who comes up with this stuff?
The “How We Play” branding campaign does not sound so bad after all.
They are honoring citizens "admired for their brave deeds and noble qualities."
Must be the farmers who protected their crops from the locusts or something like that.
/CornBeltStereotypes
by sippinator94 on Jul 29, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
no, it's actually the 'gyros game'
in honor of the sizable greek-american communities in omaha and council bluffs
sponsored by g&d’s/jimmy’s/angelo’s
m-i-z... z-o-u!
by Wooderson on Jul 29, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
#teamg&ds
Supporting the Kenji Jackson Approach for every day situations.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 29, 2011 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
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