Arizona State Beats Missouri: Links And Reflections
We live in a sports culture that demands satisfaction and justice at all times. If your team lost, it must be somebody's fault, and that somebody must pay. And because of that, we get people saying things like "One year Mizzou will decide to recruit secondary. Until then we well (sic) always be a pretender" on Twitter one year after Missouri fielded the No. 6 pass defense in the country, or we deal with plenty of Internet folks once again deciding that Gary Pinkel is a terrible game coach, and Mizzou will never get over the hump (whatever the hump is at this point, since it's clearly not "Reaching No. 1 in the country" or "Winning 40 games in four years") because of it. And of course we have to figure out how to blame David Yost as well. Memes never die, they just disappear until your next loss, then reappear as if you never won.
All that said ... we know this, and none of it is a surprise. If we don't seek out opinions we know we'll disagree with, we'll end up much more sane.
Recaps
MUtigers.com: Tigers Drop 37-30 OT Heartbreaker
The Trib: Missouri sees another game slip away in the desert
The Missourian: Franklin shines, but not bright enough in Missouri football loss
KC Star: No. 21 Missouri falls to Arizona State 37-30 in OT
KC Star: MU game report | Arizona State 37, No. 21 Missouri 30 (OT)
Post-Dispatch: Mizzou rallies but falls 37-30 in OT
Post-Dispatch: Mizzou finds good and bad in OT loss
PowerMizzou: Missouri comes up short
PowerMizzou: Saturday Grade Card
Pinkel Didn't Freeze His Damn Kicker
Post-Dispatch: Late timeouts had purpose, Pinkel says
I was starting to go crazy yesterday, not because people were questioning Gary Pinkel's decision to call two timeouts before Grant Ressel's attempted game-winning field goal -- there is plenty of reason to question that if you are so inclined, not least of which because it didn't work -- but because people kept insisting on framing it as "I don't know what he was trying to do there ... was he trying to ice his own kicker (yuk yuk yuk)??" Random Student On Television did it on last night's KOMU news, approximately 20 hours after Pinkel explained exactly why he did it. Question the logic, but there was indeed logic.
The strategy, Pinkel said, essentially was to get closer for Ressel, who had hit a 47-yarder earlier but had missed from 54 and was at the outer limit of his reliable range. Winds were gusting, too, Pinkel said.
"We tried to get five more yards," Pinkel said. "They were jumping, (Vontaze Burfict) was jumping all over and blowing our guard up and timing it and going every time. And we thought just maybe we could get him to jump offsides and we'd have gotten the first down."
Honestly, the more I thought about that strategy, the more I liked it. Burfict committed almost as many penalties as he did tackles, and as we saw when the kick actually took place, five extra yards would have made a huge difference. Plus, as has been proven, "icing the kicker" really doesn't work. And if Ressel was standing out there, knowing that he wasn't about to kick the ball, then there's very little downside to the strategy. That he missed the kick isn't really the point -- his last field goal also came out spinning sideways, but it held straight enough to go through the uprights. This one hooked a little too much.
But there are still two questions I had:
1) Why do it twice? Attempting it once was actually semi-brilliant. Not only would you get five extra yards if it worked, but with an extra timeout in your pocket and 17 seconds left, you could attempt one more play if you wanted to. James Franklin's last two rushes had gone for 15 yards, and one more carry might, in theory, generate a few more. The second time, the only possible value is a five-yard penalty, and while there is purpose to that, there isn't nearly as much.
2) Did you suddenly throw twice at the end with the sole purpose of preserving the timeouts? Because I'm not sure I like the timeout strategy that much. Three rushes had generated 54 yards on the drive -- ASU's line was tired and on its heels. And the first pass made some sense -- it might have caught ASU off-guard, plus if Michael Egnew comes down with the pass, you're looking at a chip shot field goal. The second pass, however, was unnecessary and extremely dangerous. Franklin tried to find Wes Kemp on a very short route, and it was almost picked off. If you're going to go short, just run the damn ball, call a timeout, and decide whether to still do the timeout-on-FG thing or not. I want an explanation for the second pass attempt MUCH more than I want yet another explanation of the timeouts.
Crash Course For The DBs
KBIA Sports Extra: No. 21 Mizzou’s secondary tested in loss to Arizona State
The Missourian: Missouri secondary struggles in loss to Arizona State
At some point during the summer, I found myself a smidge wary of the secondary. With the way Kip Edwards and E.J. Gaines looked at the end of last season, it was easy to get optimistic, but still, three lost starters in the secondary are still three lost starters. That was the one area of the defense where we could end up feeling silly for not being worried about it in advanced.
After seeing what Arizona State -- Aaron Pflugrad (8 targets, 8 catches, 180 yards, 2 TD) in particular -- did to the secondary, we know that there is indeed some work to be done here. Kip Edwards needs to get healthy (he did NOT look full-speed ... not even close), and my goodness, does E.J. Gaines need to find some ball skills on eBay. I'm not sure I've ever seen somebody with a bigger gap between his cover skills (brilliant) and his ball skills (nonexistent). Pflugrad's second touchdown happened despite the fact that Gaines had him blanketed and didn't fall for the trick play at all; when Gaines looked back for the ball, he not only didn't see it, but he also all but stopped running. Pflugrad did see the ball, and went and got it. Hobson's ball skills also came into question when he broke up a pass on third-and-long but still got called for pass interference because he didn't turn to look for the ball. Making sure your man isn't open is only part of playing corner. Luckily, we're only two games into the season. And in Gaines' case, there are at least 34 games remaining in his career. He's going to be a good one. What we've learned in his first two starts is simply that he's not exactly perfect yet.
We've also learned that the communication between corners and safeties needs to improve rather quickly. It makes sense that this would be an issue with so many new starters, but still ... it's an issue.
(This says nothing of the fact that Missouri really got no pass rush whatsoever either. That didn't do the secondary any favors. ASU's constant play fakes and motion kept Mizzou on their heels, and power to them for that.)
Hey, Uh, James Franklin's Pretty Good
KC Star: Franklin earned spurs in Mizzou defeat
The Trib: Despite loss, Franklin shows what Tigers said they knew — he’s a legit QB
"We already knew it," receiver T.J. Moe told reporters. "You’re the ones who didn’t know it."
Sophomore James Franklin’s second career start wasn’t perfect. He missed some throws downfield. He didn’t see some wide-open receivers. His offense converted only 3 of 15 third downs. Five possessions picked up fewer than 10 yards. And on his last two drives with the game on the line, Franklin failed to deliver points.
But considering everything that went wrong for the Tigers (1-1) in the desert — did they forget to pack the defense? — and considering how shaky Franklin looked six days earlier against Miami (Ohio), his performance Friday inspired hope for the future, especially from within.
"We got the experience of playing in an environment that we’ll probably see a few times this year," Franklin said after producing 403 yards of total offense (84 rushing, 319 passing) and three touchdowns against one of the Pac-12’s better defenses. "Getting this out of the way early, especially when we were down 14 and knowing we were able to come back and tie it up, that’s really encouraging. All the guys did a great job focusing on the here and now and not worrying about the crowd of anything … just making plays."
Obviously it's worrisome for Franklin to be taking this many hits when a) his backups are less than inspiring, and b) there are no backup running backs either, but ... his run-pass abilities were on display Friday night. And once again, we learned that he is a wonderfully accurate downfield passer. He does, however, need to work on the fade routes a little. Or better yet, we should maybe not call as many of them.
Hey, Uh, Henry Josey's Pretty Good
PowerMizzou: All about Josey
KC Star: Henry Josey ready to take over at running back for Mizzou
As somebody pointed out in one of the 3,000 or so comments from Friday night, Henry Josey must not practice very well because in terms of on-field performance, he's been No. 1 or close to it for a while. But he came out of fall practices No. 3 on the depth chart. Injury, however, leads to opportunity, and Josey has all the opportunity he could possibly want now, and so far, so good. Well, that's if you consider "nine carries for 94 yards, two catches for 51 yards" good. Personally, I think it's great. He is fast, quick and elusive.
I'm very curious about Missouri's gameplan for this coming Saturday evening against Western Illinois. Typically you might not throw a lot in (assumed) blowouts, but unless Mizzou is prepared to give Greg White and Jared Culver about 30 touches, the short passing might be a lot better for Mizzou's health.
(Speaking of which ... hello there, Jared Culver. You had a HUGE fumble recovery and a nice reception on what was almost the game-winning drive. And you look so much like Zack Abron that seeing you on the field always makes me happy. Apparently we're about to see a whole lot more of you with Kendial Lawrence and De'Vion Moore both out for a few weeks.)
Multimedia
The Missourian: PHOTO GALLERY: Arizona State beats Missouri 37-30 in overtime
PowerMizzou: PMTV-HD: Pinkel post-game
PowerMizzou: PMTV-HD: James Franklin
Behind Enemy Lines
House Of Sparky: Aaron Pflugrad Sparked Sun Devils Time And Again In ASU's 37-30 OT Win Over Tigers
House Of Sparky: The Great, The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
AZcentral.com: ASU football overcomes No. 21 Missouri in overtime
AZcentral.com: ASU football finally breaks through on a national stage
AZcentral.com: Aaron Pflugrad has career receiving night for ASU football
This really was a huge game for Arizona State, and they treated it as such. For Mizzou to withstand a crazy crowd and an absolutely insane number of injuries and come back from double-digits down to almost win says something about this team, even though Missouri has come too far to find moral victories in losses to unranked teams.
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Obviously, the loss is very disappointing...
But, I think there are plenty of good things we can take away from this game. More than most losses.
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"And in Gaines' case, there are at least 34 games remaining in his career."

by Gaknar on Sep 11, 2011 12:01 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
Yeah, typing that made me very uneasy...
…but I kept it in there for lord-only-knows what reason.
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But seriously
Do you have any stats on Josey’s run distribution? I made a comment the other day that he had a Barry Sanders like distribution, with lots of low or no gain runs followed by the periodic huge gain, but I have no proof of that.
Here's his rushes from Friday
12 yards on 2nd and 1
2 yards on 1st and 10
2 yards on 1st and 10
2 yards on 1st and 10
24 yards on 2nd and 13
8 yards on 1st and 10
0 yards on 2nd and 10
5 yards on 1st and Goal from the 10
39 yards on 1st and 10
by Transmogrified Tiger on Sep 11, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
A thought on that
I don’t have even anecdotal evidence to support this, but I wonder how many short gains Josey(or any of the RBs) get “stuck with” because the play is busted and the QB isn’t about to get himself run over on the zone read. I have to imagine that we planned for our RBs to run the ball more than 10 times in a game that had as many plays as it did, so I wonder if Franklin is just more “selfish” with the zone read at this point, which could be a slight detriment to the RBs numbers.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Sep 11, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
My impression was that many of our "apparent" zone reads
were just disguised QB keepers. Franklin wasn’t reading anybody, and he was never going to hand the ball to Josey. We spent most of the game protecting HJ like he was made of glass.
And you tend to throw more when trying to catch up from a point defecit.
"What if all those cats had to recruit like the rest of us?" ----- Texas
by Spider_Monkey on Sep 11, 2011 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Almost 90 yards on that last 1st & 10
oof
The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.
by SleepyFloyd7 on Sep 11, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
so he got positive yardage on all but 1 rush…. maybe it WOULD have been a good idea to let him carry it for 2 or 3 yards on that last possession to get the field goal closer.
Especially when you consider that we had 2 timeouts left
And time to run two plays if we hurried. Getting us 4 yards closer might have made the difference on that kick.
We fly better under the radar anyways
by McZou on Sep 11, 2011 1:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I am sure glad Texas stayed in the top 25
They sooooo showed that they deserve it with that strong performance that had against BYU.
by McZou on Sep 11, 2011 7:55 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Wondering if BYU will end up being strong this year.
Their blouse isn’t unbuttoned, is it?
"What if all those cats had to recruit like the rest of us?" ----- Texas
by Spider_Monkey on Sep 11, 2011 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Brad Smith is playing and looks ready
by McZou on Sep 11, 2011 12:53 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
After re-watching the replay
I think that Marcus Lucas is the receiver Franklin looks for, IMO.
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
All we could say about the secondary preseason
was that they were talented. We couldn’t say that they were experienced, or that they were good. Hopefully, those two things will come with time.
BTW, can anybody confirm or deny that ASU suddenly stopped being able to run the ball when Sheldon Richardson entered the game? Despite his modest statistical contribution (DT doesn’t lend itself to stat-stuffing anyway), many ASU fans came away very impressed with him.
Potential versus utilization
would be my guess. Talented means they have potential. Good would mean they make use of said potential.
It's possible to be experienced without being good.
See, for instance, UT’s Blake Gideon. Dude is a four-year starter, but his athletic limitations still make him vulnerable.
Yeah. Talent is god-given ability and athleticism. Experience is time-on-field, and being good is what the prior two things hopefully produce – strong performances that have an impact on games.
experience includes on-field intelligence, instincts, etc.
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We're projected to be in either the Alamo or Holiday bowls!!1! WOO!!
http://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls/projections?season=2011&week=2
Joking of course. Bowl projections at this point remind me of the old SNL weekend update joke that went, “The polls show that if the election were held tomorrow…people would be very confused because it’s usually in November sometime.”
hear us roar
yeah, boos in both kc and stl today.
not a fan of either team, but not cool to boo your team, especially in week 1.
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by threadkiller on Sep 11, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
fans are idiots, everywhere you go.
I got so frustrated with the guy sitting in front of me at the Miami game, shouting, somewhat angrily, things like “tackle him,” “catch that,” and “hit that gap.” Not as intensifiers or cheers, but instructions, as though the players needed him to tell them what to do.
hear us roar
by bgtd on Sep 11, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
A ton of people were booing at the UT game I went to
Most of the Longhorns I’ve met have been pretty cool and not at all entitled, but there are a few in every fanbase.
Booing the Rams is dumb
They’re a young team playing a Super Bowl contender—that team’s still got some lumps to take before they’re ready.
Booing the Chiefs? Eh, I kinda see that. Defending division champs getting absolutely smoked—and I mean flat-out decimated in every aspect of the game—at home by a team everyone assumes is going to be a big player in the Andrew Luck sweepstakes? That one’s hard to sugarcoat. I mean, really, unless your take is that you should absolutely never boo your team ever (and that’s a defensible position, to be sure), I have a hard time criticizing Chiefs fans for being pretty irked about the performance.
by Professor Chaos on Sep 11, 2011 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I think on top of that is the fact that they kept telling fans not to worry about things
Pioli, Haley, etc. kept trying to allay the worries of the fans/media by asking for their trust in the Process, and then they got destroyed in what might be the most winnable game of the year. I’m a huge “don’t boo” guy, but I understood it today.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Sep 11, 2011 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't boo
But yeah, Pioli and Haley are just so arrogant. When Marty was here, he had an attitude but you accepted it because he won on the field. Vermeil was just so lovable that you couldn’t help but cheer for him. But Haley’s smirk-and-snarl and Pioli’s smartest guy in the room attitude really turns me off. I wanted them both to succeed, but it’s really hard to cheer for the team right now.
Chiefs. So. Bad.
Ugh. Huge confidence boost for the Bills until they see the Chiefs continue this play.
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by Spider_Monkey on Sep 11, 2011 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, i'm a "don't boo, leave" guy.
either are reprehensible, but vacating the premises is better than booing, in my opinion.
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by threadkiller on Sep 11, 2011 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Me too. NEVER boo a college team. If you have to, boo the coaches or GM of a professional franchise.
"What if all those cats had to recruit like the rest of us?" ----- Texas
by Spider_Monkey on Sep 11, 2011 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Heartbreaking
1. So sad to see Missouri lose a tough game in a tough environment when they should have won.
2. It’s an ongoing joke on here to make fun of people that talk about Missouri’s lack of a short-yardage offense. But winning 40 games in four years doesn’t make a negative observation inherently flawed. And, as in the past, Missouri was deprived on at least 12 points that were easily there for the taking. I love MU’s coaches, but having a spread offense doesn’t mean you can’t occasionally employ a traditional goal line offense.
3. For Franklin to throw that many times in that environment and fail to throw a pick is really impressive…the future looks bright.
recruiting to fill a spread offense often means you don’t have the horses for a traditional goal line offense. You’d need a couple of players who were useless on 97% of the plays you make, and you only get so many scholarships.
I've seen that argument before, but it really isn't valid.
We have so many players that never see a minute on the field. Why not fill their scholarships with somebody that will contribute towards fixing our needs? Even if a player is only useful 3% of the time, they are indeed useful for that time being. You cannot ignore that 3% because it is needed to make a whole.
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by lost..in the woods on Sep 11, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I've yet to see anything that says there's an inherent problem with Mizzou's short yardage game
aside from “short yardage failures are extremely frustrating so when they happen I remember them vividly”.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Sep 11, 2011 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's put it this way
When the Tigers are within ten yards of the goal line, I would prefer that they take a penalty so that they have more room to throw.
Very well said...
Or, when we’re tackled inside the five for a first down, I know a field goal is just as likely as a TD.
Last year against BCS opponents
1st and goal from inside the 10
9 TDs
2 FG
1 INT
That’s 6 points per trip inside the 10.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Sep 11, 2011 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Bad addition, actually 5.75 points per trip
by Transmogrified Tiger on Sep 11, 2011 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
For a point of comparison
Oklahoma had 6.34 points per trip. So if we had their efficiency in our opportunities, we would have 7 more points over an entire season.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Sep 11, 2011 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
The play by play for all the games are at ESPN, just use ctrl-F for "and goal" to find it
Inside the 5 didn’t really change things, if memory serves.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Sep 11, 2011 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
One way to look at the stats...
You couldvalso say we’d have 7 PTs more in a particular game and have won that game.
It's also very likely within the standard deviation for that particular situation
Scoring 1 less TD than Oklahoma in 12 tries does not scream “There’s a problem that needs fixin’!”
by Transmogrified Tiger on Sep 11, 2011 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Not that I disagree with your overall point,
but OU last year had a dismal rushing attack. Absolutely horrible. I would be more interested in points per trip from, say, Wisconsin. Overall, though, power running games get stuffed at the 1 too. How much a given attack is successful in the red zone has more to do with players and execution than scheme. With Rucker & Co. in 2007, we were moderately awesome in first-and-goal.
I don't remember exactly, and after searching 20+ game logs I don't really want to go back to them
I want to say it was probably a 5-4 split one way or the other, pretty even.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Sep 11, 2011 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Do we score on our own defense inside the ten during practice?
You’d think if we never did, we would be trying different approaches.
"What if all those cats had to recruit like the rest of us?" ----- Texas
by Spider_Monkey on Sep 11, 2011 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
it is rough watching our goal line offense.
but I think Culver could do just fine as our short yardage back.
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and we could call him a fullback
/drinks
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by Spider_Monkey on Sep 11, 2011 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions
The question I had was
What happened to the jumbo package from last year where we brought an extra lineman or two in to line up behind the tackle?
Also, the two tight end set for OU usually creates a situation where a quick back just sprints for the pylon on the wide side of the field. Josey would fit that bill well.
ku loves Missouri as every parasite has to have a host.
Oh yeah, and...
Pollsters are idiots, if you’re ranking a team in the top twenty that just beat a VISITING team in OVERTIME, you probably ought to rank the team they beat unless it was clearly some sort of fluke. But nope, Missouri is now around 30th and more than a hundred votes from 25 and hundreds from ASU.
If you win, you go up; if you lose, you fall, no matter what.
It’s why I like computer rankings. :-)
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Depends on how you define idiot
There are many ways to look at ASU’s ranking. The most simplistic view is ASU played very well last year, they lost to Wisconsin by 1, in Madison. They lost to Stanford by 4, to USC by 1, Oregon, last year, was behind ASU most of their game. Other then a spanking from Cal, the games ASU lost last year they lost by less then a field goal. That team sent 2 the the NFL, the rest returned. Thus they started with a pre season ranking in the top 30.
Injury: They have lost as many starters to injury as we have.
Potential: What most of us don’t think of, ASU is the largest FSB school, #2 is not even close. The next closest is Ohio State University, and they trail ASU by 13,000 students. ASU in Tempe, AZ. I don’t know if you have been to Tempe, but Tempe is a spot that 19 year olds “should be” flocking too, much like Austin. ASU has the potential, and if you look at the pre season polls over the years ASU is more times then not, near the top 25.
Recent: ASU was ranked 26th last week, we were ranked 21st. 26th beating 21st. I have to argue a team ranked 26th beating 21st, should move to 22nd. But I agree 21st in a close game we should not be pushed to 31st.
Game: ASU had a missed field goal, a missed PAT and a muffed punt which allowed us to get back into the game. Yes we missed the last field goal, but that field goal would not have even been part of the conversation if ASU would not have made multiple mistakes. They were up 14 in Q4.
In the end: you can’t blame the heat, the 104 degree ‘would be’ temp dropped 20+ deg due to a monsoon. ASU I am sure would have liked it to be 100+ as normal in their stadium for a Sept. game. We lost to a good team. ASU should win next week at Illinois, and then they have USC, and Oregon Stage at home. They should win all three of them. Then they play at Utah before going to Oregon. They follow Oregon with five winnable games. Thus ASU may end up being a 11-1 team in 2011.
Comparison: From watching the first two weeks, I have to say that ASU has as good of a team as Texas A&M, or OK State. We lost to a good team. It will make us better for conference play.
Is it wrong to wish it was next Saturday already?
I just can’t enjoy the NFL today like college ball yesterday.
And before we know it the season will be over.
But Friday during the MU game I heard the words FULLBACK and MIZZOU used in the same sentence after a recovered fumble. If you were playing a drinking game, that would be the first shot in decades, no?
"What if all those cats had to recruit like the rest of us?" ----- Texas
In Joe Tessitore's defense,
when you’re looking at a 5’11", 250 lb. Jared Culver, it’s hard to think of him as a running back. Then again, I just watched Mike Tolbert beat the Vikings, and he’s a non-fullback at 5’9", 247 lbs.
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Fun to see Aldon and Justin playing together at the same time. They made plays just in the bonus coverage fox showed.
San Fran looked pretty good. I’m picking them to take that division.
"What if all those cats had to recruit like the rest of us?" ----- Texas
And Martin Rucker #83 for Cowboys just seen on the field blocking special teams. Starter on offense as well!
I have never cheered for a Cowboy before.
/awkward.
"What if all those cats had to recruit like the rest of us?" ----- Texas
But since that first play, its been all Whitten, no Rucker.
That makes more sense.
"What if all those cats had to recruit like the rest of us?" ----- Texas
by Spider_Monkey on Sep 11, 2011 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Some friends of mine ran into MR during the Cowboys' camp.
They don’t know the first thing about football, but they couldn’t stop talking about how nice he was, how he took pictures with their kids, etc. I said, “Yeah. He’s a Mizzou alum.” Rarely have I been so proud to be a Tiger. I like that GP wins, but it’s just as important to me that his program produces classy representatives of the university.
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