Mizzou Destroys Western Illinois: A Photo Gallery
by Bill C. on Sep 20, 2011 5:05 PM CDT
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PrintThis week's timeline has been all screwed up by a) my writing more and still trying to get the lay of the SBN land and b) another explosion of realignment talk. So consider this a dual-purpose post: it will serve both as a conference realignment overflow thread and ... LOOK AT THE PRETTY PICTURES.
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LOL
We might not have the worst commissioner. The Big East was trying to invite Navy and Air Force when Pitt/Cuse left.
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/29532522/32135950
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
I'm protesting
I made a really funny joke on the last thread right before we went to this one. It was about Dan Beebe killing Bill Self. Now I won’t get green. Because it won’t go green, I will lose confidence. When I lose confidence, communism wins.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
by mizzou2396 on Sep 20, 2011 5:10 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
green
feel better
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O I E M I Z Z O U
Thanks everyone for fighting communism
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by mizzou2396 on Sep 20, 2011 6:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
i for one
find your characterization of bill as a communist most disconcerting. have you no shame?
"Fleshy-headed mutant, are you friendly?"
"No way,eh."
by threadkiller on Sep 20, 2011 6:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, I have you.
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by mizzou2396 on Sep 20, 2011 6:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
true.
i shame you on a regular basis. :-)
"Fleshy-headed mutant, are you friendly?"
"No way,eh."
by threadkiller on Sep 20, 2011 7:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
If UT, OU, OSU, and TTU leave
do the remaining Big 12 schools get the money from the departure fees?
At this rate
It will just be Baylor, sitting around, rich but alone.
by Damnatio Memoriae on Sep 20, 2011 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
in theory
the 5 remaining schools would still have half the votes before the others leave. Now, if 6 or more go, they could simply vote to dissolve the conference and no fees would come of it. I’m not sure if aTm’s voting rights were lost or modified since they have already given notice that they are withdrawing.
In any event, settlement is probably more liekly
What gives, man?
You close comments as soon as you do an overflow thread, and now I have to look at a bunch of Mizzou football porn just to correct the record?
Anyway, to the one you call “The Beef”:
I went back as far as I could find records, and contrary to your claims, Mizzou baseball hasn’t taken a season series from the Jayhawks since at least 2007
Apr 06, 2011 Kansas City, MO Kansas 7 Missouri1
Apr 15, 2011 Columbia, MO Kansas 8 Missouri 3
Apr 16, 2011 Columbia, MO Missouri 3 Kansas 2
Apr 17, 2011 Columbia, MO Kansas 6 Missouri 0
May 09, 2010 Lawrence, KS Kansas 10, Missouri 9
May 08, 2010 Lawrence, KS Kansas 9, Missouri 8
May 07, 2010 Lawrence, KS Kansas 10, Missouri 3
Apr 21, 2010 Kansas City, MO Kansas 1, Missouri 0
May 10, 2009 Columbia, MO Missouri 13, Kansas 12
May 09, 2009 Columbia, MO Kansas 7, Missouri 4
May 08, 2009 Columbia, MO Missouri 8, Kansas 5
Apr 22, 2009 Kansas City, MO Kansas 7, Missouri 3
May 11, 2008 Lawrence, KS Missouri 12, Kansas 1
May 11, 2008 Lawrence, KS Kansas 7, Missouri 6
May 09, 2008 Lawrence, KS Missouri 5, Kansas 3
Apr 29, 2008 Kansas City, MO Kansas 3, Missouri 0
I don't think the KC games counted as conference games
but I don’t think conference series was specified either. In any event, his earlier statements were still accurate, kU has only taken the series the last 2 years, prior two were tied.
I said I don't know when was the last time Mizzou won a season series
He said Mizzou took it in 2009.
I honestly wasn’t that familiar with the numbers. I didn’t even know how many games they played a year. I would have just posted the reply over there and forgotten about it, but having done the research, I didn’t want to just delete it.
Aside from casting Texas as savior . . .
I think this idea recently posted on SBN would be good for MU (and Kansas City):
http://www.andthevalleyshook.com/2011/9/20/2438790/texas-can-save-the-big-12
Personally, I would suggest starting small (and regional) by adding TCU, BYU and Louisville, putting the league at 12 teams with sights set on expanding to 14 or 16, but the suggested move of poaching additional Big East teams opens up recruiting pipelines to Florida, Virginia and Ohio.
Regarding the Board Of Curators Meeting
“The primary purpose of the meeting is not related to athletics. However, since the whole board is meeting anyway, the curators do expect to receive an update on the Big 12 Conference,” Hollingshead said. “There will be no action taken (related to athletics) and there is no statement planned at this time.”
we are short a president, after all
but no action taken related to athletics =! no discussion of athletics
by jschooltiger on Sep 20, 2011 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
from the Birmingham News:
“The Southeastern Conference and the University of Missouri have informally agreed that, barring new developments, the school will join the league and that Auburn University will move to the SEC East Division, according to two people familiar with the discussions.
A majority of presidents has endorsed the informal agreement, the sources said.
The league already plans to add Texas A&M as its 13th member, provided potential legal challenges from some remaining Big 12 members disappear. Missouri, also a member of the Big 12, would be the 14th member of the SEC.
Because both of those schools are located to the western side of the SEC’s basic footprint, that prompted discussions of moving a current West Division school to the East Division. Auburn is the easternmost school in the West Division. A third person familiar with the discussions confirmed that Auburn would move to the East if Missouri joins the league.
A timetable for when Missouri would join the SEC, if the informal agreement becomes official, was not immediately known.
On Monday, the boards of regents of two big-name Big 12 schools, Texas and Oklahoma, authorized their presidents to explore new conferences. Oklahoma’s president said it is considering the Pac-12, as might Texas. The presidents of both schools have said remaining in the Big 12 remains an option.”
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/09/tentative_plan_for_mizzou_to_j.html
sec guy here
On the one hand, the B’ham news is in Birmingham, which is where the sec office is, so they should know. On the other hand, its hard for me to believe that Bama will give up the Tenn rivalry (which they would have to do if only AU goes east). I know this was an enlightening comment and I’ll show myself out.
by Mark Mandingo on Sep 20, 2011 6:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I wonder if there might be some set-up like what the B1G has done
where each team has a ‘rivalry’ team from the opposite division that they play every year.
we've always had that
But if Auburn goes east without Bama, there you go
by Mark Mandingo on Sep 20, 2011 6:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
First of all, welcome
Second, with an expansion to 9 conference games they may do 2 permanent and 1 rotating rival or something like that.
thanks for the welcome
I’m not really sure that we’ll go to 9 games. We like our yummy cupcakes! But if we do, I don’t know. In ‘92 we actually started with 2 permanent division games and 1 rotating, but its tough when you don’t see some teams but twice every ten years. We finally switched to one permanent rival about ten years ago and everybody likes it much better. If it came to that or ending the Bama-Tenn rivalry, they would probably just end it. So I don’t know. The most talked about solution is sending Vandy to the west and having the Alabama schools come east. That protects the two biggest current out of division rivalries (bama-tenn, UGA-Auburn) and doesn’t affect Fla-LSU. But it makes a brutal division.
by Mark Mandingo on Sep 20, 2011 6:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
So what is everone thinking regarding realignment?
I know that the B1G is number 1 on almost everyone’s lists, but if the SEC comes knocking or the big12 big east merger thing that has been thrown around comes into play it would be hard to deny them and wait it out no? Personally I would embrace a move to the SEC, even though our football record would probably take a hit for the first 4-5 years. It would still be exciting to be a part of the “best” football conference.
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I like OU demanding Beebe's head and a "tweaking of LHN
It’s about time somebody demanded for Beebe to go. And if Texas was willing to change LHN for the PAC 12, why not do it for the Big 12?
by McZou on Sep 20, 2011 6:45 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Staying.
The only thing I would dislike more than going to the SEC is being in muddled Big XII again. Yet if it is to continue here is what should happen in my opinion.
1. Oust Beebe.
2. Tinker with the LHN…. I doubt the way it’s set up and with the contract you could turn it into a “Big 12 Network” yet I would try for something like that. Getting more Big 12 sports on the LHN compared to just Texas athletics. No high school stuff either. With revenue maybe Texas gets 50 percent and then the other schools split the other 50… idk what to with revenue really just a thought.
3. Go after TCU, Louisville, and try for BYU again and at least. If not go for Cincy I suppose.
why would you want to stay in this dysfunctional conference
we could leave it, and Texas’s self-centered problems behind.
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
Because as of this week, the Big XII is the best football conference
And we’re a great basketball conference. And we’re making a huge push in baseball and softball. We’re good at just about everything, anf with a little cooperation, we could be the premiere athletic conference in the land.
I don’t want to be in this dysfunctional conference, yet if that’s our only option I think those 3 things would have to happen.
I'd like more than just a tinkering.
A total abandonment of the LHN or convert it into a Big 12 network is what I would hope for. Even still though, no telling what stunt Texas pulls in the near future anyways at the expense of others.
OU and UT could very well pack up next year or the year after anyways. I think we would be fools to help patch this conference up right now if we could swing another offer our way. In a year or two, any decent options could be virtually non-existant.
I think ESPN would
have an issue with that, the contract between Texas and ESPN probably guarantees that the LHN stays around in some fashion.
Dave_Matter Dave Matter
RT @PeteThamelNYT: We need to tap the brakes on Mizzou and SEC. Been told definitively that no alignment scenario has been discussed
I swear, someone's going to rip their hair out of this shite continues.
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
Of course not!
wouldn’t be EXPANSIONAPALOOZA 2011 if something were true!
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I wouldn't doubt that its been discussed
by everyone but our own administrators. I’ll be so angry if there was an approach by the SEC and our school leaders basically ignore it.
I just can't imagine a rational, educated man
wanting to stay in this total cluster of a conference.
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
I'm just curious
do you work on campus, with Brady or the other people in the leadership team? Or maybe Brian Foster, or Jackie Jones, or Tim Rooney? You’re in their offices a lot, right, hanging out as they make decisions about the university? I mean, you have to be to make blanket statements about our administration like that, right?
by jschooltiger on Sep 20, 2011 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Pete Thamel is saying that RE: the SEC re-aligning to put Auburn in the East.
Rational Mizzou Talk, whether you like us or not.
It seems likely
that Chancellor Deaton, having received undergraduate and Masters degrees at Kentucky and a masters and PhD at Wisconsin and therefore being exceedingly stupid AND ignorant about both the SEC and Big 10, would be completely out of the loop of the current state of affairs of the Big 12 (being the Chairman of the Board of Directors, that would be a natural assumption) and would naively ignore overtures from the SEC. Considering that a large part of his job is to put the University in position to further it’s fundraising position in as many ethical ways as possible, it’s very possible that he has a great interest in making a very large segment of his donating constituents as angry as possible by doing everything in his power to weaken our Athletic Department as much as possible.
Rational Mizzou Talk, whether you like us or not.
by Andy--01 on Sep 20, 2011 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
If I'm Mike Alden
I gather all the boosters in a room and start cutting off fingers until I find the leak. How many times do these idiots need to embarrass the university before they get it through their heads to shut their damn mouths?
"Answer: 'Not responsible for the leak.' Survey says!"
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no
The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.
by SleepyFloyd7 on Sep 20, 2011 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
or current commentors.
"Fleshy-headed mutant, are you friendly?"
"No way,eh."
by threadkiller on Sep 20, 2011 7:23 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
Had to make this green!
"Every absurdity has a champion to defend it" Olivar Goldsmith
I'm just hoping Deaton has the guts to go for it.
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
Way to Kill a good thread
I do not have all day to wait on 50 thousand pics to post before I can respond
Please do not do that again…..
COIN
"Hey Chris Freeman, how big of a hamburger do you want?"
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by RPT on Sep 20, 2011 7:07 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
He's just going to give Mangino a hug.
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
by Kpz1234 on Sep 20, 2011 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
the pink only makes him scarier...
"If I ever saw an amputee getting hanged, I'd probably just start calling out letters" - Demetri Martin
"Eggs this guys overdone, then I hit the slope on them call it rise over run"- Chiddy
O I E M I Z Z O U
HEY DONT CURSE THERE ARE CHILDREN HERE!
:)
"If I ever saw an amputee getting hanged, I'd probably just start calling out letters" - Demetri Martin
"Eggs this guys overdone, then I hit the slope on them call it rise over run"- Chiddy
O I E M I Z Z O U
To quote the great Emerson Cod
“Where is that ass of a rat I could give?”
Can’t wait for it to be done. I mean, let’s be honest. No matter where we go, our teams will still play, and we’ll all still be Tigers.
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Sep 20, 2011 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
And, if we're in the SEC, we won't be the only ones.
Rational Mizzou Talk, whether you like us or not.
Well, look on the bright side.
If we think we have it bad, how do you think the WVU guys feel? They could not even BE in a conference when this is over.
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
request to the powers that be...a poll?
i’m interested to see where most people around here would like to end up.
capital letters suck.
You don't need a poll for that.
Stable conference w/revenue sharing
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
does anyone know
what it is the painted chest people in the top picture were spelling out? or attempting to spell out?
"Fleshy-headed mutant, are you friendly?"
"No way,eh."
thanks!
"Fleshy-headed mutant, are you friendly?"
"No way,eh."
by threadkiller on Sep 20, 2011 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
what do you suppose
the paint on the good time gal between “o” and “f” reads?
"Fleshy-headed mutant, are you friendly?"
"No way,eh."
by threadkiller on Sep 20, 2011 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Is this a caption contest, or do you really want to know?
Because what it IS is a Tigerpaw… that’s what they typically paint on the people between words.
What we could claim it is … A map of Hawai’i? The Tiger’s Lair wants us to go to the WAC!
Rational Mizzou Talk, whether you like us or not.
ok. didn't know that, thank you.
guess i should pay more attention.
"Fleshy-headed mutant, are you friendly?"
"No way,eh."
by threadkiller on Sep 20, 2011 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
This could go a number of ways...
And I’m not even gonna touch it (no pun intended) in good faith to my loving girlfriend.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/09/tentative_plan_for_mizzou_to_j.html
This article makes my head spin. They seem intent on saying we’re going to join the SEC West, but only quote SEC officials saying they haven’t invited us…
If you have any bananas laying around
this is a really great recipe.
http://www.yourhomebasedmom.com/the-best-banana-bread/
I also added chocolate chips and walnuts.
You can use 1/2 cup of applesauce instead of the oil.
Cheers!
by tigers and chiefs fan on Sep 20, 2011 8:42 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Nom Sequitur
I hope that is a food blog.
The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.
by SleepyFloyd7 on Sep 20, 2011 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
THERE IS!
The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.
by SleepyFloyd7 on Sep 20, 2011 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Longhorn here
I sure hope Mizzou to SEC isn’t true. I love being in the conference with Mizzou. I would love to see Mizzou and Texas to the Big 10.
Last I heard it looked like Beebe was on the way out and OU was working out a deal with Texas to keep the Big XII-II-I together.
The Big XII-ii currently has the most teams in the top 25 so this is all just crazy to me that the Big XII-ii is the conference that keeps having problems. Of course, I do recognize that Dodds has pretty much been the giant bully in the room and I hope Texas starts acting more like a conference partner. Other conferences (namely Big 10 and SEC) are great at putting conference first and ahead of self. Texas has been one of the worst at that, but I still think Texas does want the Big XII-ii to work.
Good luck against OU.
A&M: Ready,Set, Go.....
Welcome
Thanks for your thoughts.
by tigers and chiefs fan on Sep 20, 2011 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
see, there are rational, level-headed ut fans
"If I ever saw an amputee getting hanged, I'd probably just start calling out letters" - Demetri Martin
"Eggs this guys overdone, then I hit the slope on them call it rise over run"- Chiddy
O I E M I Z Z O U
I would have loved this getting worked out last year,
but after losing three members, having Dan Beebe “save” the conference last year, then followed up with OU and UT both threatening to leave once again this year plus the mess surrounding ESPN and the LHN independant of where any of us want to throw that blame, I finally got to the point where I want Mizzou to move away from it all if a good option is available.
We basically had an oath of loyalty demanded from us though the power players were talking left and right trying to cut deals outside the conference and then we gave yet another oath as a ten man league only to have it all happen again.
Even if OU’s new power play works and the LHN is completely eliminated (which isn’t even the goal but I think is a best case scenario) no telling what our conference will be revisiting over the next couple of years.
I feel the damage has been done and the trust has been destroyed. I wouldn’t hire a man to run my cash register who was convicted of stealing and I wouldn’t get engaged to a woman who cheated on her last husband.
I hear you
I blA&Me the Aggies, but I’m pretty biased. Several years back Aggies were asked to join Texas in a “Lonestar Network” which would be like the Sunshine Network that Florida currently has. Aggies declined, so Texas went forward with the Longhorn Network.
When the Big XII-Ii re-did our blood oath to each other last year everyone knew about The Longhorn Network. Then, we sold it for $300M and (and Texas did start pushing the envelope with high school games, etc.—much to the chagrin of many Longhorn fans)—and the aggies blew a gasket and decided their only option was to commit harakiri in the $EC.
I’m sure plenty of folks are pissed at Texas (and some with good reason) but for a good athletic school with really high caliber academics like Mizzou to want to join the $EC that is not logical. The Big 10, sure. The $EC, no.
I still think the Big XII-II is going to stick together (I hope). Beebe will probably be the sacrificial lamb, but maybe that is good since he probably should have represented the conference better against UT…..but it was kind of a no win position for him.
A&M: Ready,Set, Go.....
In some way or another, we all carry some blame.
Its kind of embarrassing to think about how dysfunctional we have become. The Big 12 was an elite conference in many sports and has fine academics as a whole too.
Now after the OU ultimatum followed by an ESPN report that Larry Scott says the Pac is not going to expand right now, its almost a dark comedy. Now what does Boren say or do? Does Beebe stay?
All of these articles are basing their reports on the same story from the Birmingham News.
This feels an awful lot like Big 10 and Matt Painter all over again …
Not really, a lot of them are also citing Mike
who basically is saying the same thing as Gabe. If I’m counting the sources right, we have MU boosters as well as people in Birmingham (aka the home of the SEC offices) saying more or less the same thing.
by jschooltiger on Sep 20, 2011 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
One important thing I've learned today...
On a keyboard the “C”, as in SEC, is right next to the “X”. Some of my text messages today have been much more exciting than originally intended.
by MacTiger on Sep 20, 2011 9:34 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Conversely my wife is wondering...
why do I want to sec her up so bad?
by asdtg2 on Sep 20, 2011 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Because you want to get it done in a hurry?
Its that SEC speed again.
by M Krip on Sep 20, 2011 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Looks like you guys
are headed to the SEC. Good for you all! Myself,i would have rather had you in the B1G but no matter what you guys are gonna land in a good conference,good luck to you all! Oh,and one favor…pull the trigger fast,so tired of this realignment crap taking over what should be just good solid footall
Man! Thanks a lot!
We appreciate the kind words in these nerve-wracking times.
Meanwhile, I hope Wisconsin, Ohio State, Minnesota, Michigan State, Northwestern, Penn State, Michigan and Iowa beat your ass.
Love – Sleepy.
The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.
by SleepyFloyd7 on Sep 20, 2011 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Just Kidding, of course.
I hope you beat Michigan.
The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.
by SleepyFloyd7 on Sep 20, 2011 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
PAC 12 not expanding.
It looks like our dream of escaping the B12 is dead.
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
This conference is defunct. I don't see how it
can function
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This story ain't over yet.
The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.
by SleepyFloyd7 on Sep 20, 2011 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait and see how it all unfolds
Just like 10 minutes ago.
The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.
by SleepyFloyd7 on Sep 20, 2011 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm curious to see what Boren has to say next after these latest developments?
Will he go courting another conference now? He kind of boxed himself and his school in a little bit.
does this screw mizzou over now?
will the SEC take OU and/or TX and call it a day with TAMU?
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 20, 2011 10:19 PM CDT reply actions
I doubt it
I just can’t see only one of those schools jumping ship. OU, wants to stay with Ok St, Texas straight up wants the big 12 to stay together.
Maybe OU would go, but I just can’t see it.
I really hope MU still ends up going though. This conference is a disaster.
Please, for the love of god...
JUST DIE ALREADY BIG 12
by asdtg2 on Sep 20, 2011 10:28 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
One good thing
you guys are like Nebraska in that you don’t have a little brother holding you back,i’m guessing you will be on your way to the SEC no matter what
I don't think our school's admin has the nuts to do that.
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
Probably not, but...
Last year we got blamed for everything for opening their blouse and ended up with jack.
This year people can hate on us all we want, but if we go SEC at least we’ll have something to show for it.
But we are STILL IN THE SAME STUPID SITUATION.
It’s just going to happen again next year. Or month, or whenever.
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
We're all inmates in the asylum
Might as well eat jello and enjoy the show.
by Gaknar on Sep 20, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Looks like Texas got what it wanted.
The Less Big 12 is still alive and no one here can take their “precious” from them without having a viable alternative landing spot to use as leverage.
So much for your demands, OU.
I did find it interesting that OU stepped up now
When they didn’t say anything after Nebraska left last year and A&M is practically out the door. I think they really were interested in the PAC-12, and when they got the news that it probably wasn’t happening decided to pressure the Big 12 to actually make some changes.
Problem is they should have been doing that from the start; now their threats are empty.
I think it's being perceived the other way around
That OU dallying and demanding caused the vote to go against them.
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
I told the folks over at C&C
They’ll only be able to play Larry Scott so many times. He’s not a stupid man. He knows that all he has to do is wait, and I think he sent that message loud and clear.
Believe me
their return to the B12 and demands were about the stupidest move ever.
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
So...we could ask TCU if they really want to go to the Big East now that Pitt and Syracuse are gone.
TCU has the worst timing ever
If they had waited one year, they would have been a prime candidate to join the Big XII and we probably would have avoided all of this.
we need a front page fanshot for this
this news is definitely front page worthy.
If we opened our blouse last year.....
then what the heck could you say to describe what Boren and OU did this time around? Wow, made an ultimatum like that without checking to see if the backdoor was unlocked and someone holding it open for them.
Well,
this makes what I heard on Finebaum not necessarily more believable, but more interesting.
Caller stated a business associate told him in August the SEC planned to add A&M, Mizzou, OU and OSU.
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
Add Louisville, TCU, and one other
Fix the revenues, reel in the Horns, and believe it or not you have a stable conference that can last. 4×16 aint going to happen, folks.
But Beebe's got to go
You can’t oversee a conference that runs as deep as the Big 6/8/12 to the brink of ahnilation twice in 14 months and keep your job. It’s got nothing to do with him being a puppet for DeLoss Dodds, he just apparently sucks pretty bad at his job.
The Big XII must change
You would think that last year would have been a wake up call, but if the conference doesn’t change now, then we are officially dealing with sociopaths.
by Gaknar on Sep 20, 2011 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
just add TCU
i really like the schedule in football/basketball with 10 teams in the conference.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 20, 2011 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
From what Jon Wilner says (a sports writer on the West Coast)...
…OU can’t join the Pac-12 without Texas – because the added revenue from OU and OSU doesn’t make up for the added costs – and of course, Texas can’t join unless it capitulates on the LHN.
One other thing: he says OU likely knew the Pac-12 was saying no before Boren made his demands.
http://twitter.com/#!/wilnerhotline
Now that the Big 12 lives to see another day...
Add three of four from Louisville, TCU, BYU, and WVU. UT needs to compromise on the LHN, and we need to fire Beebe and work out something relatively close to equal revenue sharing. Current members need to sign some sort of contract reflecting stability to attract new members.
I don't see why UT needs to compromise on the LHN.
Sure I would like them too but there is basically no pressure to do so other than OU and maybe one or two other schools grumbling about it which hasn’t seemed to phase them up to this point.
Kansas surely isn’t bothered by it or they wouldn’t have taken the deal to air their game on it. I doubt Baylor is going to try to rock Texas’s boat. I think our leaders will be content to keep the status quo and Iowa State or Kansas State aren’t in any position to dictate to Texas.
I can’t believe how dissapointed I am right now. Its like we are trapped and there isn’t a whole hell of alot we can do about it or try to do about it. With OU getting rebuffed, I doubt we will able to break away and secure an SEC invite like the Aggies had the courage and opportunity to do.
I'd laugh my ass off if Baylor, Iowa State, etc....
kept their their threat of litigation alive and thus got the SEC to rescind their offer to A&M. Probably won’t happen, but can you imagine the whining out of College Station then?
Beergut might explode.
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