Mizzou Links, 9-6-11
by Bill C. on Sep 6, 2011 5:15 AM CDT
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MIZZOUEXPANSIONAPALOOZA™ 2011
To an extent, I agree with what Panjandrum says in the BOTC post below: until something truly happens with Big 12 teams going to the Pac-XX, there's always a chance that this is just all posturing. That said ... a lot of connected people seem pretty weirded out by how far down the road we've gone in the last few days. I'm extremely comfortable that Mizzou will land in a positive place, but we should probably buckle up. Could (continue to) be interesting.
- Mark Cuban Weighs In
Blog Maverick: So What Should Big 12 Schools Do? Say No to Super Conferences - This Is About To Get Ridiculous
Orangebloods: Armageddon in college realignment looming?
Ft. Worth Star-Telegram: Lawmakers may step in if 'Horns choose Pac-12
The Daily: Conference Call: A few ideas that might save college football from wrecking itself - What Are Big 12 Coaches Saying?
Daily Oklahoman: Bob Stoops always thought Pac-12 'would come back up'
KC Star (Campus Corner): Big 12 coaches weigh in
Tulsa World: OSU's Mike Gundy says realignment decisions should be based on more than just money
Austin American-Statesman: Mack Brown weighs in on realignment - Big 12 To Raid Big East?
Bring On The Cats: Conference Realignment: I Call My Shot
Cardiac Hill: Big 12 Expansion and Pitt: Without Oklahoma and Texas, Conference in Doubt - Big East To Raid Big 12?
Troy Nunes Is An Absolute Magician: Big East Expansion: Prepare For Ludicrous Speed
New York Post: Big East could add Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri - Texas Getting Involved
New York Times: Texas is Key Player in Pac-12's Expansion Outlook
Frank the Tank: Texas Longhorns: Going to California (Again)?
Mizzou Football Links
- Oh Right, There's Actually A Game Coming Up
MUtigers.com: OFFICIAL ARIZONA STATE RELEASE
MUtigers.com: Coach Pinkel Media Day Quotes
The Trib (Dave Matter): Monday MU Briefing & Depth Chart
Post-Dispatch: Mizzou won't have Jacquies Smith, Will Ebner for ASU gameAlready a 7-point underdog, Missouri (1-0) will be further shorthanded Friday night at Arizona State (1-0). Gary Pinkel confirmed on Monday's Big 12 teleconference that MU will be without center Travis Ruth (Achilles' tendon), defensive end Jacquies Smith (dislocated elbow), linebacker Will Ebner (high ankle sprain) and wideout Jerrell Jackson (pulled hamstring). Ruth and Jackson sat out Saturday's opener against Miami (Ohio), as did cornerback Kip Edwards (pulled hamstring). Pinkel did not update Edwards' status on the conference call, though he's listed No. 1 at one cornerback spot on the newest depth chart
The Missourian: Depth on Missouri defensive line helps compensate for sidelined player
PowerMizzou: AUDIO: Pinkel on Monday Morning
PowerMizzou: PMTV-HD: Pinkel on ASU
PowerMizzou: Media Day Notebook
PowerMizzou: Like Father, Unlike SonThe other notable switch on the depth chart came at linebacker, where Andrew Wilson moved from outside linebacker to the middle and Luke Lambert switched from the middle to the strongside spot.
"Just a decision on who's out in space better than the other guy," Pinkel said. "We talked to those guys about it and their comfort zone and what we see on film. Coach Stec and myself, we came to the conclusion that was kind of the best positions for them."
Will Ebner, who was previously a co-starter in the middle with Lambert, will miss this game with a high ankle sprain. Donovan Bonner will back Wilson up with walk-on Tony Randolph listed behind Lambert outside.
KC Star (Campus Corner): The injured still are at Mizzou for ASU game - Recruiting
PowerMizzou: Following the Future (high school stats from current commits) - Love These Guys
We Are Mizzou: Spoon and JMac in The ZOU
Other Football Links
- Texas Just Got A Smidge Better
Austin American-Statesman: Marquise Goodwin returns to Longhorns football team
Mizzou Basketball Links
- Recruiting
PowerMizzou: Rodney Purvis lining up visits
PowerMizzou: Criswell likes Mizzou, has more visits coming
Other Mizzou Links
- Mizzou Golf
MUtigers.com: Mizzou Golf Finishes Third At Turning Stone
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Spoon...
… just pulled off a sideline interview more successful than 85 percent of the people in the business.
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It was a solid B+.
I would give him an A, but he didn’t race a dog on a skateboard.
/Knoxy’d
by MU'97 on Sep 6, 2011 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
GP made the point in yesterday's presser
That, just as all the OL are required to learn all the positions on the line in the event they need to be moved for emergency reasons, so are all the LB’s.
Not a big Cuban fan
But I do agree with parts of his comments
by McZou on Sep 6, 2011 6:50 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Is anyone from ASU hurt?
This is harsh.
FOOOOOOOOTTTBAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!
by tigers and chiefs fan on Sep 6, 2011 7:02 AM CDT reply actions
They lost about half of their starting defense to injury in the offseason...
…so we’ve got THAT going for us…
too bad (not really) burfict wasn't one of 'em.
"My friend! My friend!" You big crybaby. Go bury him in the yard before he stinks up the place.
Did you say Burfict?
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
by Kpz1234 on Sep 6, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think it's great & straight-forward
I am not sure it gains any traction, but bully for them.
by tigers and chiefs fan on Sep 6, 2011 7:22 AM CDT up reply actions
heh
Will Texans stand by and watch hundred-year-old rivalries be cast aside as the state’s largest universities align themselves with other states across the country?
I don’t know Baylor, why don’t you ask TCU?
by Gaknar on Sep 6, 2011 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions 12 recs
Nice Gaknar! Rec'd.
Seems like they tried that Texas state conference thing (Southwest Conference) before. How did that work out again?…Oh..yeah….never mind.
"Gentlemen, this is a football."-Vince Lombardi
"Slow down coach, you're going too fast."-Max McGee
From your sister site, Crimson & Cream (among other places), interesting OU+OSU+MU+KU to Pac16 talk
TO OCCUR PERHAPS THIS WEEK
Note how things have changed over the weekend, since the austin esipn whorns appear to have been shot down by the Pac, have chippy guessing ACC (to be shot down by ACC’s leader, laughing), and have nowhere else to go…
YOUR THOUGHTS AS MIZZOU FANS?
You wanted B1G last year, think/thought you might be in play for SEC, what about to Pac16?
"Half our life is spent trying to find something to do with the time we have rushed through life trying to save."
-- Will Rogers
by ProlateSpheroidFan on Sep 6, 2011 9:59 AM CDT reply actions
My thoughts as some guy who reads way too many rumors on blogs is
I just want the Big 12 to die. It needs to die. As long as we end up in a BCS AQ conference I’m happy.
Big Ten makes most sense to me, we would fit in well there. SEC would be cool, but we would have a hard time winning. Pac-XX would be fun, but long road trips. Big East would be kind of a bummer, but I would still be happy as long as the Big 12 dies.
I like the idea of playing with 5 of the Big 8.
I worry about losing our Texas recruiting base with that scenario, but that could also happen if we went to the Big 10 also. Of course, with the country getting smaller (in that people can watch just about any game they want) and the expectancy is more and more games will be televised everywhere, maybe that won’t be as big a deal in 10 years as it is today.
This signature is not clever. It is not funny. Why are you still reading it? Seriously, it only goes down from here. It doesn't get better. You're the type of person who sits through the entire movie even though the movie is obviously horrible. And not in that "so bad it's good horrible" I'm talking Transformers 2 horrible. You liked that movie? Ugh.
Same here ... and there are definitely some fun schools to play in the Pac.
The only problem I see is that all of the late night starts in both football and basketball could be HELL!!!
Most your games would be in CT and MT
and for football most hte games are mid day games. And im sure they would do that for teams traveling west. They usually do it already on the weekends. Time zones won’t be as big of an issue as people think. I wouldn’t be surprised if they even put in a charter talking about start times and opponents.
I want Texas left out in the cold
I want them to lose all of their historic rivalries so that they’re forced to justify why Texas-BYU is awesome.
I want them to have their $300 million network that no one can watch and that no one wants to watch because there’s no programming.
I want Texas fans to spend the next fifty years half-heartedly defending the tactical brilliance of Deloss Dodds that left them without any meaningful rivalries or conference affiliations.
Like an old miser, I want to see them sitting alone atop their pile of gold forever.
yes, but to enjoy this scenario fully,
you’d like to see some regret from them. regret about how they killed the golden egg-laying goose. trouble is, we’ll never see that from texas. nothing has ever been texas’ fault. they’ll go down clinging to how it was everyone else’s fault but theirs.
"My friend! My friend!" You big crybaby. Go bury him in the yard before he stinks up the place.
No, you don't
That’s the beauty of it. You’ll see the regret on their faces even as they spin endless justifications as to why it was everyone else’s fault.
that'll just make me even madder.
"My friend! My friend!" You big crybaby. Go bury him in the yard before he stinks up the place.
Every time I read a 'Mizzou to the SEC' mention
I’ve realized I get a pit in my stomach. I’ve realizing that is the LAST thing I want. And its not just because of the football suicide we’d encounter (at least for a while). Its because we’re not a southern school. Period. Our academics are at least a couple steps up (from most of the SEC, not all). And I just don’t want to get into bed with that conference.
My choice would be:
1) B1G
2) Big East (or a re-tooled combo of the remainder of the Big East/ACC after they are pillaged by the SEC/B1G…partly for selfish reason. I live on the East Coast.)
3) PAC-Whatever
While approximately 60% of the fanbase is all in favor of the B1G,
not everyone is. There’s about 30% that would love a move to the SEC. You have to imagine that our recruiting would bump up a tad, not to mention access to more kids from Florida (ESS EEE CEE speed!). Besides, from a competitive standpoint, I would argue that right now Missouri is just as good (if not better, based on head-to-head games) than Arkansas, Texas A&M, Mississippi, and Mississippi State. Also, not for nothing, but Auburn didn’t look too hot against Utah State.
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
I'm not talking just from a football competitiveness perspective
I don’t think Mizzou fits with SEC culture. I have a sister at Bama, and culturally, they are worlds apart (and I’m very glad that they are). Mizzou is not a southern school; Missouri is not a southern state (regardless of what people in the boot heel would like to you believe).
I just don’t want our permanent home to land in the SEC.
you bring up some good points
After all, Columbia is located in a part of Missouri known as “Little Yankee Enclave”.
by JC-Mizzou on Sep 6, 2011 2:08 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
I just find it funny that we're still fighting the Civil War
almost a century and a half after it ended, on a college sports blog.
And by “funny,” I mean “sad.” The argument that Mizzou shouldn’t join the SEC because we’re not “southern,” for the various values of “southern” I’ve seen implied or stated during this mess, bothers me. It’s a matter of opinion and personal taste.
The arguments focusing on poorer academics are, in my opinion, a much better reason to root for future Big 10 membership for MU, as these are more measurable, and less likely to devolve into thinly veiled insults.
who is fighting the civil war here?
“Southern” is a geo-socio-political-historical term in this context…so:
Fact…Missouri borders as many sec states as it does big 10 states
Fact…as a border state, Missouri culture has many southern influences
Fact…relics from the civil war are all around us here in Missouri, and referring to them is not in bad taste. When I drive down Arsenal street in St louis I am not “fighting the civil war”. Our alma mater’s mascot is a civil war reference. Also If Columbia’s location in an area called Little Dixie is a troublesome concept, be sure and stay away from millersburg.
Fact: mizzou’s conference affiliation is not going to change much academically. We are already aau, a big research school, etc. And we already collaborate with big 10 schools in a lot of areas. And if we leave for the sec, how will that change for the worse?
Fact: the sec, big 10 or a surviving big 12 are all great options for us…if they are available to us.
Missouri and Mizzou are as much a southern school as they are a great lakes or a southwestern school.
by JC-Mizzou on Sep 6, 2011 3:45 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
You're right
Mizzou and Missouri are just as much a southern school or a great lakes or southwestern school, in that it is none of the above. I never called it a great lakes school or a southwestern school.
Mizzou is a midwestern school and Missouri a midwestern state.
big 12 = a southwestern conference
nm
by JC-Mizzou on Sep 6, 2011 4:50 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
and look, I'm not trying to rename it Robert E Lee University or anything
i am just saying that there are a few folks who seem to be quick to overlook Missouri and Mizzou linkages to the south as they write off the SEC concept. The reality is that Mizzou has southern ties, and that the SEC is not as alien to the Mizzou DNA as some claim. and that has nothing to do with the Quantrill / Stars and Bars / “Liquor Guns and Ammo” that some people apparently assume that to mean
pardon my french but who gives a shit?
It’s a football conference, I could care less if we’re playing teams in southern states or northern states, I would just like to be in a conference with an auto bcs bid. Why does it matter if they were Confederates 150 years ago? It’s football.
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I shop at Liquor Guns and Ammo all the time.
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"Liquor and guns" the sign says quite plain
Somehow life goes on in a place so insane….
The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.
by SleepyFloyd7 on Sep 6, 2011 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
REC'D!!!!!
"Gentlemen, this is a football."-Vince Lombardi
"Slow down coach, you're going too fast."-Max McGee
I agree to a point. The list below assumes that all conference mentioned retain a Automatic BCS berth.
1. B1G – As long as ku is not included. Feel safe on this one.
2. SEC – I would like to think that some academic standards could be implemented with the additions of A&M and Missouri. You know Vandy is on board. I also think long term. This is the conference that will generate the most $$$.
3. If ku goes Big East, I want the Pac whatever and vice versa.
ku loves Missouri as every parasite has to have a host.
I feel the opposite about kU
I love to hate the jaykawkers…I want them to come with us. But I want it to be a situation where it is every clear to everyone involved that they are riding MU’s coattails and we basically saved them from mid-major irrelevance. That would be perfect in my eyes =)
i'm with nwtiger1. let 'em burn.
"My friend! My friend!" You big crybaby. Go bury him in the yard before he stinks up the place.
I sincerely hope that KSU and ISU get a great situation but
the spirit of our rivalry with kU demands that we leave them on the Island of Misfit Toys and be happy about it!
The question is are kU and KSU tied together politically? I think the best for me is Mizzou to the B1G (SEC is a distant second) and kU, KSU and ISU to the Big East or the Pac whatever.
ku loves Missouri as every parasite has to have a host.
Generally I'm with you NWT1
I just wouldn’t let kU’s presence dictate our future one way or the other. If we both get invited to B1G, I’d still go. You’re probably right in that SEC might mean more $$$ but B1G makes more geographic sense (but not much more and I guess that’s not really a factor anyway). Big East would be okay, especially if WVA isn’t pirated away by SEC. We might be able to win that conference.
Another Big East thought. What if most of Big 12 merged with them to create the first super conference. With TCU next year, they’ve got nine football schools. Let’s take 7 Big 12 schools: MU, OSU, OU, ISU, KSU, KU and Baylor (I’d love to leave out Texas if at all possible) and add ’em in.
There’d be two divisions. TCU would be in the division with the former Big 12 schools, which would be named the Big 8 division. The other would we the Big East Division.
I don’t know what to call the conference. All I can come up with is the “In Your Face Conference.” “Big 16” is just too bland. If “B1G” isn’t copywrited/trademarked/servicemarked I say take that name.
"Gentlemen, this is a football."-Vince Lombardi
"Slow down coach, you're going too fast."-Max McGee
I like it!
"Gentlemen, this is a football."-Vince Lombardi
"Slow down coach, you're going too fast."-Max McGee
selfish reasons
I live in LA so I’d want Mizzou to join Pac whatever before they joined the Big East or SEC. However, I think it would be better if the Big 12 expands and UT shuts down their network and agrees to equal revenue sharing. Big 10 would be next best option. Either way UT is getting a reality check whether they like it or not….and I will get the most satisfaction out of that.
by Earl Billings on Sep 6, 2011 12:00 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Someone should tell her
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