Know Your Hilton Magic Rival: Iowa State Cyclones
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It is possible that we might learn a lot about both the 2011-12 Missouri Tigers and the 2012-13 version. First, Mizzou looks to not only respond well following their first loss, but also avoid both a losing conference record and a growing din from the "WEAK SCHEDULE" and "ROAD WOES" chorus. But they will also take on a team that is both talented and awash with transfers and other newcomers, like Frank Haith's team will be next year. The Cyclones started slow (like Mizzou probably will next year), but they have begun to click to some degree. They need to beat Missouri to continue momentum toward a possible NCAA Tournament bid; Missouri needs to win to fend off the haters. Plenty at stake tonight.
Iowa State Cyclones (12-3)
| ISU |
Opp. | |
| Pace (No. of Possessions) |
67.2 |
|
| Points Per Minute |
1.91 |
1.65 |
| Points Per Possession (PPP) |
1.13 |
0.98 |
| Points Per Shot (PPS) |
1.40 |
1.11 |
| 2-PT FG% | 51.8% |
48.2% |
| 3-PT FG% | 38.2% |
29.0% |
| FT% | 68.4% |
71.4% |
| True Shooting % | 58.1% |
50.1% |
| ISU | Opp. | |
| Assists/Gm | 14.8 |
11.7 |
| Steals/Gm | 5.7 |
6.1 |
| Turnovers/Gm | 12.9 |
12.3 |
| Ball Control Index (BCI) (Assists + Steals) / TO |
1.59 |
1.44 |
| ISU | Opp. | |
| Expected Off. Rebounds/Gm | 11.6 |
12.9 |
| Offensive Rebounds/Gm | 11.1 |
10.1 |
| Difference | -0.5 |
-2.8 |
As we will see with the Pomeroy stats below, Iowa State still has some issues on the defensive end, but they are a very dangerous offensive team. If they hit some early 3's, the Hilton Coliseum crowd will be deafening. Mizzou very much needs to match fury with fury early on, or they could be staring at another pretty impressive first-half deficit. (Granted, they could still win even if they do face that deficit, but let's try not going to that well too many times already.)
Ken Pomeroy Stats
| ISU Offense vs MU Defense Ranks |
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| ISU Offense | MU Defense | Advantage | |
| Efficiency | 39 |
48 |
Push |
| Effective FG% | 22 |
79 |
ISU |
| Turnover % | 63 |
53 |
Push |
| Off. Reb. % | 125 |
98 |
MU |
| FTA/FGA | 20 |
12 |
Push |
| MU Offense vs ISU Defense Ranks |
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| MU Offense | ISU Defense | Advantage | |
| Efficiency | 2 |
102 |
MU Big |
| Effective FG% | 2 |
102 |
MU Big |
| Turnover % | 2 |
287 |
MU Big |
| Off. Reb. % | 169 |
30 |
ISU Big |
| FTA/FGA | 100 |
13 |
ISU |
Where the Cyclones are weakest
Their defense is pretty much "don't foul, don't take chances, hope you miss the shot you take, and grab the defensive rebound." They foul as rarely as Mizzou does (which could result in a quick game tonight), and they are 30th in the country in defensive rebounds, but they also allow you a pretty good look, and they are 266th in Def. Steal% and 220th in Def. Block%. They are also 265th in Bench Minutes; they get occasionally interesting contributions from bench players like Percy Gibson and Bubu Palo, but if they are going to beat you, it is probably going to be the starters doing the deed.
Where they are best
They are 43rd in Off. 3PT%, which is impressive considering they take as many 3's as they possibly can (16th in 3-Point Attempts Per Field Goal Attempt). They are also 51st on 2-pointers. They don't get many shots blocked (primarily because they are taking so many 3's), they don't allow you many transition opportunities through turnovers, and thanks mostly to Royce White (6.6 free throw attempts per game), they draw plenty of fouls.
Iowa State's Season to Date
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Wins Versus Top 200 (Team Rank is from KenPom.com)
No. 25 Texas, 77-71
No. 86 Lehigh, 86-77
vs No. 114 Providence, 64-54
No. 117 Iowa, 86-76
at No. 126 Texas A&M, 74-50
vs No. 155 Rice, 90-63
No. 175 Lipscomb, 81-64
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Losses
at No. 26 Michigan, 66-76
No. 47 Northern Iowa, 62-69
at No. 168 Drake, 65-74
Until conference play began, Iowa State was really neither good nor bad. They beat up on bad teams and lost to good teams (and Drake). But they held off Texas thanks to Chris Babb's three-point shooting and White single-handedly getting every Texas player in foul trouble (he shot 17 free throws, and three Longhorns fouled out). And then they destroyed an A&M team that is just befuddling in how bad they are. Their Pomeroy ranking has improved from 125th on November 20, to 83rd on January 4, to 51st today. To say they are improving is probably a bit of an understatement.
Iowa State Player Stats
| Player | AdjGS*/Gm | GmSc/Min | Line |
| Royce White (6'8, 270, So.) |
15.3 |
0.51 |
30.2 MPG, 12.9 PPG (54% 2PT, 57% FT), 9.3 RPG (2.8 OFF), 4.2 APG, 1.3 BPG, 1.1 SPG, 3.7 TOPG |
| Chris Babb (6'5, 225, Jr.) |
11.6 |
0.37 |
31.5 MPG, 10.5 PPG (44% 2PT, 39% 3PT, 68% FT), 4.7 RPG (1.3 OFF), 1.8 APG, 1.3 SPG |
| Chris Allen (6'3, 205, Sr.) |
9.3 |
0.32 |
28.7 MPG, 12.4 PPG (40% 2PT, 35% 3PT, 85% FT), 2.9 APG, 2.4 RPG, 2.1 TOPG |
|
Tyrus McGee (6'2, 205, Jr.) |
8.7 |
0.46 |
19.1 MPG, 8.9 PPG (55% 2PT, 44% 3PT, 84% FT), 3.2 RPG (1.2 OFF) |
| Scotty Christopherson (6'3, 195, Sr.) |
8.5 |
0.29 |
29.3 MPG, 10.6 PPG (47% 2PT, 39% 3PT, 92% FT), 2.7 RPG, 1.8 APG, 1.7 TOPG |
|
Melvin Ejim (6'6, 220, So.) |
8.3 |
0.38 |
22.2 MPG, 7.6 PPG (57% 2PT, 23% 3PT, 71% FT), 6.3 RPG (1.9 OFF), 1.0 APG, 1.1 TOPG |
| Percy Gibson (6'9, 245, Fr.) |
4.9 |
0.42 |
11.7 MPG, 4.9 PPG (67% 2PT, 38% FT), 2.9 RPG |
| Bubu Palo (6'1, 175, So.) |
4.6 |
0.29 |
15.6 MPG, 4.7 PPG (52% 2PT, 38% 3PT, 64% FT), 2.1 APG, 1.6 RPG, 1.4 TOPG |
|
Anthony Booker (6'9, 250, Jr.) |
4.4 |
0.39 |
11.4 MPG, 4.0 PPG (54% 2PT, 60% 3PT, 56% FT), 2.5 RPG (1.3 OFF) |
* AdjGS = a take-off of the Game Score metric (definition here) accepted by a lot of basketball stat nerds. It redistributes a team's points based not only on points scored, but also by giving credit for assists, rebounds (offensive & defensive), steals, blocks, turnovers and fouls. It is a stat intended to determine who had the biggest overall impact on the game itself, instead of just how many balls a player put through a basket.
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Highest Usage%: White (26%), Allen (24%), McGee (19%), Christopherson (19%)
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Highest Floor%: Gibson (49%), McGee (42%), White (41%), Ejim (40%)
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Highest %Pass: Palo (65%), White (58%), Allen (53%), Babb (50%)
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Highest %Shoot: Gibson (64%), McGee (49%), Booker (47%), Babb (40%)
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Highest %Fouled: Booker (19%), Gibson (18%), Palo (17%), McGee (15%)
- Highest %T/O: Booker (12%), Gibson (10%), White (9%), Christopherson (8%)
- Only Oklahoma State's Le'Bryan Nash and Texas Tech's Jordan Tolbert occupy more possessions in the Big 12 than Royce White. For better or worse, when he gets the ball, something is going to happen. Either he will draw a foul, make a bucket, or turn the ball over. And if somebody else takes and misses a shot, odds are decent that he will get the rebound. He recorded a triple double (10 points, 18 rebounds, 10 assists) against A&M on Saturday, and while he does sometimes occupy possessions for the wrong reasons, he matches up incredibly well with Mizzou. If he can get Ricardo Ratliffe and Steve Moore each in foul trouble, ISU might score on every second-half possession.
- White is the star, but ISU has some interesting complementary pieces. Four players have hit at least 24 3-pointers this year (Babb, Allen, McGee, Christopherson), and five have grabbed at least 18 offensive rebounds (White, Babb, McGee, Ejim, Booker).
- None of ISU's top four players above have played against Missouri. White is a Minnesota transfer, Babb is from Penn State, Allen is from Michigan State, and McGee is a JUCO transfer. Throw in a freshman (Gibson) and an SIU transfer (Booker), and only three players in the ISU rotation were in last year's ISU rotation. Like I said, they have a lot of resemblances to Mizzou's 2012-13 team.
Keys to the Game
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Foul Trouble. Neither ISU nor Mizzou have committed many fouls this season, and only one player really draws any fouls for ISU. But White could single-handedly take out a good portion of Mizzou's seven-man rotation. If Ricardo Ratliffe and Steve Moore get into foul trouble, then this game takes on a completely different tenor.
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From Way Downtown. Iowa State has four guys who can kill you from long range, and Missouri has three (Marcus Denmon, Kim English, Mike Dixon). Who gets hot?
- The Keys To Every Road Game. Mizzou has only played two road games this year, 2.5 if you include Illinois. And in these 2.5 games, Mizzou has two specific categories rise to uncomfortable levels: their opponent's offensive rebounds and Phil Pressey's turnovers. Mizzou has not been able to match what appears to be a higher level of effort from opponents outside of the state of Missouri, and when they begin to struggle, Pressey tries a little too hard to make up the ground. Watch these two numbers, and you can probably figure out who won.
Prediction
Ken Pomeroy says Missouri 79, Iowa State 74; I am growing shakier by the moment with this one, but after one game of (correctly) going against Pomeroy's predictions, I'll go back to siding with him. Hilton is not an easy place to play, but if Mizzou truly has their minds on a really high NCAA tournament and/or a run at a conference title, they really need to figure out a way to win this one. Losing won't break the season, but it will almost certainly tamp the expectations down a couple of notches.
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Gonna have to watch this game at the gym, otherwise i'll punch my own tv
Pick:
Denmon
Dixon
Ratliffe
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 11, 2012 10:57 AM CST reply actions
You can throw a dumbbell at the tv instead
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
haha, i usually stay on the track and listen to the game on my phone at the gym.
I can get lost in the game and forget im exercising easier this way.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 11, 2012 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
Don't get to engrossed...
TURN LEFT!
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 11, 2012 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
good call
I’d hate to go all Dale Earnhardt out there.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 11, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions
2001 called
they said it’s too soon.
2012 doesn’t care at all though.
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by mizzou2396 on Jan 11, 2012 4:09 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
If I mentioned that in from of my father, he might have pulled an earnhardt himself there on the spot
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by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 11, 2012 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
I would advise you not to mention that in front of your father.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
I'm going to hell for snickering at that...
and other things.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 11, 2012 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
Must win Tri
It’s hard not to view this as a must win, especially if Mizzou is to be a contender
English
Denmon
Dixon
I'll dive in
Phil Pressey
Marcus Denmon
Ricardo Ratliffre
The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.
Oh Iowa State
Aside from Missouri, I have watched more Iowa State games than any other team, I’ll pause for confusion and laughter. Both my younger sisters go/went there, so I keep an eye on things. I’m not all that worried about this game other than the “we keep games at Hilton too close” thing.
There is a reason that most of these guys are transfers. They all had on or off the court issues which led them there. For White, when things are clicking, he’s extremely hard to defend, but he oftentimes gets in foul trouble, and seems to take plays off. He doesn’t move his feet, and loafs around the floor. As for the outside shooting, they have a lot of guys that shoot the three, because they tend to settle for that shot. Also, they’re not quite as selfless as our bunch, every three looks good to these guys, don’t pass any more than they have to.
This team is not experienced or quick enough to keep up with this Mizzou team. I also refuse to believe Mizzou will play a game even half as bad as the one on Saturday, which coincidentally was the only game I didn’t get to watch this year. Oh, and I’m watching this one.
tl dr
Denmon
Ratliffe
English
i like this kind of positivity!
i had exactly this feeling going into the k-state game. i hate myself for feeling that way.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 11, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
With you on this
for the realism. I couldn’t care less about “positivity.” ISU can look like worldbeaters one second and rec league jokers the next. A veteran team such as Missouri should, SHOULD, be able to withstand a few runs from the Cyclones and take home a nice road win.
"This game is the most important game of the season unless we win the game and then it is just another step in the right direction" crowd tri
Denmon
English
Rat
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
My Kimmie-less Trifecta picks failed me
Therefore,
Denmon
Ratliffe
English
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
If Mike Dixon is a killer from "down-town" tonight
I’ll let you choose a new signature line for a month.
You either die a Tiger, or you live long enough to see yourself become a Jayhawk.
I owe a fecta
English, ppressey, Ratliffe
8pm intermission for modern family.
Top Heavy Beer Drinker
by DnrW on Jan 11, 2012 11:53 AM CST via Android app reply actions
if the game is good then I will.
and will probably be reprimanded hastily by the lady, but thems the breaks.
Top Heavy Beer Drinker
by DnrW on Jan 11, 2012 12:04 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Tri-
Ratliffe
Denmon
M. Pressy
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 11, 2012 11:56 AM CST reply actions
Tri
Denmon
English
Flip
"You better call your crew, you gon’ need help." - Jay Bilas' advice to teams facing Mizzou in b-ball this year
Not dreading this as much as some people
Should be a winnable game if Mizzou gangbangs the glass and executes something resembling a game plan on offense. I think ISU is the favorite in a race for fifth, and there’s a good chance they’re a tournament team, but Mizzou can handle them. Let Royce White be Royce White and shut off the other four options, and things should turn out OK.
Fearless prediction:
MU 79
ISU 67
by Bivouac77 on Jan 11, 2012 12:18 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
red for gangbang as the 8th word in this post!
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 11, 2012 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
I don't like this game
English
PPressey
Denmon
Happy birthday to me tri
Denmon
English
Ratliffe
"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy" – Teets
happy birthday
May a Tiger victory be the icing in the CAKE!!
by tigers and chiefs fan on Jan 11, 2012 12:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
But I like pie!
And I just learned RPT has a birthday today as well. Happy Birthday RPT where ever you are.
Oh yeah, thanks t&c fan.
"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy" – Teets
yeah! birthday victories! drinks for everyone!
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 11, 2012 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
You posted this at my exact time of birth 55 years ago.
"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy" – Teets
i think thats a sign of good things to come this evening, eh?
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 11, 2012 2:01 PM CST up reply actions
Most definitly!
Dinner & drinks, basketball & more drinks!
"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy" – Teets
definitely
"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy" – Teets
Yeah!
Icing IN the cake! But wait. That would mean the cake has a filling, which would deem it pie-like…
icing between the layers, is still a cake!
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 11, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
And icing "in" the cake is Chapter 11.
Hostess
"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy" – Teets
this totally ruins the plot to zombieland
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 11, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
Blame Woody for choosing cake over pie.
"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy" – Teets
Happy Birthday
It’s everyones birthday today!!
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 11, 2012 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
Thnx MVPRoC
"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy" – Teets
Denmon
English
MPressey (hoping for us to put it away, so he can get his customary trash points)
i hope some one steps up to lead this team when the sh*t hits the fan
Denmon
M Pressey
Cardo
by McZou on Jan 11, 2012 12:37 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Ah, I missed that...
…hooray sorry for your loss.
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by Bill C. on Jan 11, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
guess that means no pic-a-nic baskets
I believe in the The Black & Gold Standard
by Logan Hill on Jan 11, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Let's take some prevenge out on this team
That’s where you pretend someone did something horrible to you, and you destroy them for it.
Ratliffe
Denmon
PPressey
triiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Denmon
Dixon
Ratliffe
Proud kanscist
#teamchilipie
fecta
Denmoney
English Class
Flip
What do Tigers dream of when they take a little Tiger snooze? Do they dream of mauling Jayhawks, Or Todd Reesing in his sod helmet suit? Don’t you get in a self-loathing funk, We’re gonna start this party with a Lawrence Bowers dunk, And then we’re gonna find Kimmeh’s shot too, And bring a victory back to the Zou! Zou, Zou, oh back to the Zou! But if we keep shooting the three like we have been… Then we’re shit outta luck
by darklighter09 on Jan 11, 2012 1:39 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
We're playing Iowa State?
Then this easy
Franklin
Josey
Egnew
by MizzouRugby on Jan 11, 2012 2:25 PM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
hoping espn3 works on my internet provider-fecta
denmon
dixon
english
also…
Mizzou has only played two road games this year, 2.5 if you include Illinois
do you mean villanova?
If I was going on a picnic, I'd invite Ryan Theriot, and I would ask him to bring the lunchables.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 11, 2012 2:45 PM CST reply actions
No, but I guess that actually makes 3.0 or so. I meant Illinois because the crowd was half-Illinois.
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i was just curious.
was assuming the MSG crowd was more pro-villanova than ST was pro-illinois.
If I was going on a picnic, I'd invite Ryan Theriot, and I would ask him to bring the lunchables.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 11, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
This is a dangerous game and Iowa State is a respectable opponent, the only downside to winning
is that Iowa State will surely fall into the abyss and be trampling fodder for every team to play them afterwards such that our win will lose any luster it orginally seemed to have. That seems to be the norm for what appears to have been decent teams we beat this year.
then we need to make sure we are the ones that are the first conference opponents to make them look this way
not the aeration that let them pull one off early on.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 11, 2012 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
Win, Place, Show - Fecta
Demoney
Kimmey
Ratliffey
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
spread is mizzou by 4, your feelings on that?
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 11, 2012 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
Why is Hoiberg not the actual mayor of Ames?
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
Hey, we're one of two SEC teams that actually understand basketball.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
are your cyes really crossed?
and is that a cause of the inbreeding we are to expect in our transition to the sec?
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 11, 2012 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
Who do you consider your biggest rival to be?
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
Depends on the sport.
Basketball, Kansas. It’s not mutual, but it’s the one team we want to take out.
Football, Iowa.
Cardinal and gold uniforms, USC.
Do you play Iowa in basketball every year?
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
What does ISU HAVE to do to win? What can they most definitely NOT do?
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by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 11, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
Have to shoot well from behind the arc
Can’t have bad shot selection.
Chris Allen and Chris Babb need to show up
Roll tide fecta
English
Denmon
Flip
by jrfulmer on Jan 11, 2012 3:48 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Try as I might...
Denmon
Kimmeh
Dixon
by TigerStyle on Jan 11, 2012 5:21 PM CST via Android app reply actions

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