Know Your Top Five Rival: Baylor Bears
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Two things to note about the data below:
1) It reaffirms the fact that Baylor is, in fact, a very, very good team.
2) It affirms the fact that Missouri has their own set of matchup advantages. Maybe that doesn't mean anything until the two teams meet in three weeks in Columbia, but it is certainly a nice discovery. As good/long as Baylor is, they do have weaknesses Mizzou can exploit with their own strengths. Something to keep in mind.
Baylor Bears (17-1)
| BU |
Opp. | |
| Pace (No. of Possessions) |
68.1 |
|
| Points Per Minute |
1.93 |
1.53 |
| Points Per Possession (PPP) |
1.14 |
0.90 |
| Points Per Shot (PPS) |
1.39 |
1.07 |
| 2-PT FG% | 52.7% |
41.0% |
| 3-PT FG% | 40.9% |
32.7% |
| FT% | 73.1% |
65.1% |
| True Shooting % | 59.5% |
47.1% |
| BU | Opp. | |
| Assists/Gm | 16.0 |
11.6 |
| Steals/Gm | 9.1 |
6.9 |
| Turnovers/Gm | 14.9 |
16.4 |
| Ball Control Index (BCI) (Assists + Steals) / TO |
1.69 |
1.13 |
| BU | Opp. | |
| Expected Off. Rebounds/Gm | 11.1 |
13.6 |
| Offensive Rebounds/Gm | 11.9 |
12.7 |
| Difference | +0.8 |
-0.9 |
For Baylor, the stereotype doesn't necessarily match the product at this point. Yes, the Bears are tall, but they were tall last year. The reason they have transformed into a top five (well, probably top ten when the next polls come out) team is because of length, shooting, defense and some incredible bench contributions. They are a solid rebounding team (though not as good as their size would suggest), and they block every other shot near the rim, but they shoot lights-out from long range, and they turn you over quite a bit. They got exposed a bit in Lawrence, but let's face it, everybody gets exposed in Lawrence. This is still an outstanding, well-rounded team.
Ken Pomeroy Stats
| BU Offense vs MU Defense Ranks |
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| BU Offense | MU Defense | Advantage | |
| Efficiency | 11 |
52 |
BU |
| Effective FG% | 14 |
92 |
BU |
| Turnover % | 227 |
54 |
MU Big |
| Off. Reb. % | 40 |
107 |
BU |
| FTA/FGA | 108 |
15 |
MU |
| MU Offense vs BU Defense Ranks |
|||
| MU Offense | BU Defense | Advantage | |
| Efficiency | 2 |
14 |
Push |
| Effective FG% | 3 |
25 |
MU |
| Turnover % | 2 |
35 |
MU |
| Off. Reb. % | 154 | 220 |
MU |
| FTA/FGA | 91 |
55 |
BU |
Where the Bears are weakest
All of the compliments above shouldn't detract from the fact that Baylor does in fact have some weaknesses. They allow far more offensive rebounds than you probably expect (likely a product of both zone defense and the fact that they go for a ton of blocks), they foul quite a bit considering the zone play, and they turn the ball over like crazy (they rank 227th in Off. TO% and 176th in Off. Steal%). Against Missouri, you have to take care of the ball, or else it doesn't matter what kind of talent you have strewn about the court.
The Bears also rank 128th in Def. 3PT%. If players like Marcus Denmon and Mike Dixon can find the range on their jumpers (typically a huge 'if' on the road), they could find enough opportunities to do some damage.
Where they are best
If you don't make your 3-pointers, and you don't force turnovers, you probably have no chance. That goes for Missouri and anybody else. Baylor erases a good portion of shots near the rim -- they rank 18th in Effective Height, 12th in Def. 2PT% and 12th in Def. Block%. They also force quite a few more turnovers than you expect from a zone (35th in Def. TO%, 13th in Def. Steal%).
Oh yeah, and Baylor is also really deep (66th in Bench Minutes), and they shoot really, really well. They rank 46th in Off. 2PT% and, more importantly, 14th in Off. 3PT%. We know all about Perry Jones III, and somehow Quincy Acy still has eligibility left, but players like Pierre Jackson (48% on 3-pointers), Brady Heslip (48%) and Quincy Miller (39%) contribute just as much to the Baylor cause with their outside shooting.
Baylor's Season to Date
- Wins (Team Rank is from KenPom.com)
vs. No. 20 West Virginia, 83-81 (OT)
at No. 21 Kansas State, 75-73
vs. No. 24 St. Mary's, 72-59
at No. 30 BYU, 86-83
No. 55 San Diego State, 77-67
at No. 58 Northwestern, 69-41
vs. No. 62 Mississippi State, 54-52
No. 75 UT-Arlington, 75-65
No. 108 Oklahoma State, 106-65
No. 138 Texas A&M, 61-52
- Losses
at No. 2 Kansas, 74-92
Say this for Baylor: they've been tested. Their non-conference strength of schedule was rather weak (207th according to Pomeroy) because their weak opponents (Texas Southern, Jackson State, S.C. State, Prairie View A&M, etc.) were really weak, but they have faced nine Top 75 opponents and gone 8-1. (In comparison, Mizzou is just 5-1 against the Top 75. Still good, but not as high in the quantity department.)
Baylor Player Stats
| Player | AdjGS*/Gm | GmSc/Min | Line |
| Quincy Acy (6'7, 235, Sr.) |
13.9 |
0.49 |
28.6 MPG, 12.4 PPG (58% 2PT, 75% FT), 6.8 RPG, 2.4 BPG, 1.0 SPG, 1.7 TOPG |
| Perry Jones III (6'11, 235, So.) |
13.4 |
0.43 |
31.2 MPG, 14.2 PPG (57% 2PT, 35% 3PT, 56% FT), 7.5 RPG, 1.2 APG, 1.1 SPG, 1.0 BPG, 1.9 TOPG |
| Pierre Jackson (5'10, 180, Jr.) |
12.5 |
0.46 |
27.1 MPG, 12.2 PPG (51% 2PT, 48% 3PT, 85% FT), 5.4 APG, 2.9 RPG, 2.0 SPG, 3.6 TOPG |
| Quincy Miller (6'9, 210, Fr.) |
10.3 |
0.41 |
25.3 MPG, 12.0 PPG (50% 2PT, 39% 3PT, 77% FT), 5.1 RPG, 1.8 APG, 2.1 TOPG |
| Brady Heslip (6'2, 180, So.) |
8.9 |
0.34 |
26.1 MPG, 10.1 PPG (36% 2PT, 48% 3PT, 100% FT), 1.4 APG, 1.4 RPG |
|
Cory Jefferson (6'9, 210, So.) |
5.9 |
0.44 |
13.3 MPG, 5.0 PPG (60% 2PT, 62% FT), 3.4 RPG, 1.7 BPG |
| Anthony Jones (6'10, 195, Sr.) |
5.6 |
0.33 |
17.2 MPG, 5.4 PPG (54% 2PT, 27% 3PT), 3.7 RPG, 1.0 SPG |
|
A.J. Walton (6'1, 185, Jr.) |
4.9 |
0.24 |
20.6 MPG, 4.3 PPG (42% 2PT, 22% 3PT), 3.7 APG, 3.0 RPG, 1.6 SPG, 2.2 TOPG |
|
Deuce Bello (6'4, 185, Fr.) |
3.3 |
0.28 |
11.7 MPG, 4.4 PPG (56% 2PT, 20% 3PT, 54% FT), 2.6 RPG, 1.1 TOPG |
|
Gary Franklin (6'2, 195, So.) |
2.0 |
0.16 |
12.8 MPG, 3.5 PPG (25% 2PT, 38% 3PT), 1.0 APG |
|
Fred Ellis (6'6, 220, Sr.) |
2.0 |
0.21 |
9.8 MPG, 2.1 PPG (14% 2PT, 38% 3PT), 1.9 RPG, 1.2 APG, 1.2 TOPG |
* AdjGS = a take-off of the Game Score metric (definition here) accepted by a lot of basketball stat nerds. It redistributes a team's points based not only on points scored, but also by giving credit for assists, rebounds (offensive & defensive), steals, blocks, turnovers and fouls. It is a stat intended to determine who had the biggest overall impact on the game itself, instead of just how many balls a player put through a basket.
- Highest Usage%: Miller (25%), Jackson (24%), Jones (23%), Bello (23%)
- Highest Floor%: Jefferson (45%), Acy (44%), Jones (43%), Jackson (43%)
- Highest %Pass: Walton (74%), Jackson (69%), Ellis (69%), Franklin (60%)
- Highest %Shoot: Jefferson (56%), Jones (53%), Jones (49%), Heslip (43%)
- Highest %Fouled: Acy (27%), Jefferson (24%), Bello (20%), Miller (15%)
- Highest %T/O: Bello (12%), Acy (10%), Ellis (10%), Jones (9%)
- Seriously, I'm pretty sure Quincy Acy has been in Waco longer than Scott Drew has. He is the perfect glue guy for this team, scrapping on the boards, drawing a ton of fouls (something fellow big Perry Jones III doesn't do very well) and blocking the hell out of shots near the rim. He gives up four inches to Jones, but he plays bigger.
- The most unique part of playing a team like Baylor is that some of their longer guys (Jones, Quincy Miller) almost have a guard's skill set. Miller has been a mini-Jones, shooting better from 3-point land, rebounding at a similar rate, and passing even better. Jones is a star, but his usage rate is not amazingly high; in fact, Miller's is higher.
- Pierre Jackson and Boston College transfer Brady Heslip combine to attempt 9.5 3-pointers per game ... and they make 4.5 of them. Yikes. Jackson brings quite a bit to the table overall, however. Heslip's job is to basically stand on the 3-point line, while Jackson runs the show (despite coming off of the bench like Mike Dixon). He is tremendous in both the assist and steals categories, though he can get pretty careless with the ball sometimes.
- Perhaps the single biggest reason this team is a legitimate Top 10 outfit is because of the depth of contributors. A.J. Walton softens you up with good defense and passing, then Jackson comes off the bench and makes Baylor even better. Heslip bombs in open 3's. Cory Jefferson comes off the bench and blocks almost as many shots as Acy. If you keep Jackson and Heslip cool from behind the line, Miller and Gary Franklin (combined: 25-for-65 from 3-point range) will make them instead. Meanwhile, five different players have offensive rebounding rates of at least nine percent (in comparison, Mizzou has two). To beat Baylor, everybody on your team has to play well. There is no "Stop ____," or "Keep ___ off the glass," or "Stick to ____ on the perimeter" prescription for success geared around stopping certain individuals.
Keys to the Game
- Road Things. And really, this is three keys in one. So you get five keys this time! By "Road Things," I mean a) offensive rebounds, b) fouls and c) Phil Pressey. If Mizzou acquits itself in these three categories, it can win any road game. If. If, if, if.
- Bombs Away. Baylor's offense ranks 14th on 3-point percentage (Mizzou's defense ranks 160th), while Mizzou's offense ranks 21st in the same category (Baylor's D: 128th). Both teams could get smoking hot from long range ... but if just one does, that team generates one heck of an advantage.
- Ratliffe Watch. In Mizzou's one loss this season, Ricardo Ratliffe was dreadful: two points, one rebound and four fouls in 14 minutes. He was simply swallowed whole by a long, athletic, intense Kansas State squad. Ratliffe probably doesn't need to meet his season averages (14 points, seven rebounds) for Mizzou to win -- even if he meets those criteria, Mizzou probably needs the above factors to come away with a 'W' -- but he has to bring something to the table. Then again ... he pulled down four offensive rebounds on the way to an 11 & 13 game last year against Baylor*. That might not be a bad place to start.
* When reading this box score, just ignore that Laurence Bowers had 20 points and nine rebounds. :-(
Prediction
Ken Pomeroy's projections say this one comes down to the wire: Baylor 76, Missouri 73. The variance here is just so huge. If Mizzou is making their open 3's, they could certainly hang in all the way to the end. But it is difficult to ignore the fact that, in their three true road games, Mizzou has made just 31 percent of their 3-pointers. While acknowledging that Mizzou is more than talented enough to give Baylor a run, or beat them outright, I think the most likely outcome is something like Baylor 74, Missouri 62. Get 'em in Columbia.
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Tri
Matt
English
Ratliffe
Not feeling to confident about this particular game. I’d be happy if the Tigers took ’em down to the wire. /settling for mediocrity
Fight, Tigers, Fight for 'ol Mizzou!
#ReconcileByWinning
by McNabb2Maclin4Philly on Jan 20, 2012 9:27 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Tri
English
Flip
Dixon
Confidence in this game not high, but would like to see a better effort than K State.
tri extra hard
Denmoney
Flipper
Englishman
You either die a Tiger, or you live long enough to see yourself become a Jayhawk.
Gonna be hammered drunk at a brewery by the time this game is on
So heres hoping that things go well.
Tri
Ratliffe
Dixon
Flip
I have worked with some of the brightest minds in business, IT, medicine, real estate, hospitality, law, finance, and most importantly college sports.
#CakeForLife
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 20, 2012 9:34 AM CST reply actions
oh, yeah.
you. drunk outside your own home. what could go wrong?
What do you have against the ring-tailed lemur?
by threadkiller on Jan 20, 2012 6:39 PM CST up reply actions
Trifecta
Denmon
Ratliffe
English
"You better call your crew, you gon’ need help." - Jay Bilas' advice to teams facing Mizzou in b-ball this year
Tri
Denmon
Ratliffe
English
"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy" – Teets
Three
Denmon
Flip
Cardo
I think this one has “Thunderdome” written all over it. Which is why the bench of the Bears may do us in.
Upholding fine Mizzou traditions in Maryland.
MvP, RoC official Nemesis
Tri-
Ratliffe
Dixon
English
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 20, 2012 9:51 AM CST reply actions
tri-
Money Marcus
Cardo
Steeeeeevve
by d-pat on Jan 20, 2012 9:57 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Nitpick Alert
It appears you have the MU defensive and offensive efficiencies flipped around under the Ken Pomeroy stats.
Fran's over-stated game notes trifecta
Team USA University Games
Younger son of Paul Pressey
Below the rim player
by golf2804 on Jan 20, 2012 10:02 AM CST via Android app reply actions 1 recs
The only thing I think we have going for us...
is that 99% of us are already resolved to a loss and looking beyond Saturday. So that means its 99% probability that we’ll win, right? Right?
by DC_Tiger on Jan 20, 2012 10:04 AM CST reply actions 6 recs
I can get behind this logic!
I have worked with some of the brightest minds in business, IT, medicine, real estate, hospitality, law, finance, and most importantly college sports.
#CakeForLife
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 20, 2012 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
Brilliant!
Fight, Tigers, Fight for 'ol Mizzou!
#ReconcileByWinning
by McNabb2Maclin4Philly on Jan 20, 2012 10:28 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I am the 1%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m going to go by a helicopter now.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
as in your going to walk by it, or your going to buy* one?
I have worked with some of the brightest minds in business, IT, medicine, real estate, hospitality, law, finance, and most importantly college sports.
#CakeForLife
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 20, 2012 10:45 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
well it's you're not your
but I am going to walk by it as I certainly can’t afford to buy it.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
You know who could afford to buy it...
…and probably has already purchased a fleet of top-of-the-line copters, just waiting to be donated to Mizzou just as soon as we stop settling for mediocrity…
shows what you know
Falcon_05 has so much money he doesn’t have to buy a helicopter, the companies just give them to him so he can be seen in its product.
I heard he has a miniature giraffe.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
your so right
I have worked with some of the brightest minds in business, IT, medicine, real estate, hospitality, law, finance, and most importantly college sports.
#CakeForLife
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 20, 2012 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
It's the Catalina @#!$%& Wine-mixer!
I’m known as a bit of a dreamer!
by MizzouRah04 on Jan 20, 2012 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Tri
Denmon
Dixon
Flip
"Gentlemen, this is a football."-Vince Lombardi
"Slow down coach, you're going too fast."-Max McGee
Tri
Denmon
Ratliffe
English
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
Tri Tri Tri again
Steve
Cardo
Flip
by tigers and chiefs fan on Jan 20, 2012 10:34 AM CST reply actions
Triaminic cold medicine for the road ills
Rat
Denmon
Kimmeh
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
Way of topic but did you all know that mizzou has a hockey team. I had no idea
by dp2 on Jan 20, 2012 11:51 AM CST via mobile reply actions
It's a club team right?
I hear they play in Jeff City or something.
Check out the up-and-coming Mizzou blog: http://www.zoulogy.com
it is a club team
They play the KU club team in independence each year
I have worked with some of the brightest minds in business, IT, medicine, real estate, hospitality, law, finance, and most importantly college sports.
#CakeForLife
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 20, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
Is KU ending that rivalry too?
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
Thats correct.
My final project in Group Comm was about turning the old, recently chosen to be knocked down Natatorium space for a semi-indoor hockey arena the team could use to practice.
Are you sure you didn't flip
The Pomeroy rankings for MU’s offense and defense? I’m pretty sure we’re the #2 offense not #54
What do Tigers dream of when they take a little Tiger snooze? Do they dream of mauling Jayhawks, Or Todd Reesing in his sod helmet suit? Don’t you get in a self-loathing funk, We’re gonna start this party with a Lawrence Bowers dunk, And then we’re gonna find Kimmeh’s shot too, And bring a victory back to the Zou! Zou, Zou, oh back to the Zou! But if we keep shooting the three like we have been… Then we’re shit outta luck
by darklighter09 on Jan 20, 2012 12:05 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
D'oh. Fixed.
I THINK IT’S VERY TELLING THAT NOBODY NOTICED THIS UNTIL NOW, AHEM.
/sobs because nobody cares about stats
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Bill, someone did point this out earlier
P_Tiger did at 10:00 a.m. Otherwise I would have mentioned it much earlier. I just want you to know that I, in fact, do care about stats.
by the_k on Jan 20, 2012 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah
I was about to post that until I saw p_tiger’s post, didn’t want to pile on.
THE TIGERS NEED OUR PERFECTION TO WIN TOMORROW…PERFECTIONRAWR
I'll be honest.
I go straight to the prediction.
by tigers and chiefs fan on Jan 20, 2012 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
I stare at them confused but I do look
by kc_okerix on Jan 20, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
trifecta
1. Denmoney
2. Flip
3. Dixon
by KJG-MSU on Jan 20, 2012 12:12 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Here's what I'm hoping to Tri
Moore
Ratliffe
English
Bear-fecta
Denmon
PPressey
Ratliffe
What do Tigers dream of when they take a little Tiger snooze? Do they dream of mauling Jayhawks, Or Todd Reesing in his sod helmet suit? Don’t you get in a self-loathing funk, We’re gonna start this party with a Lawrence Bowers dunk, And then we’re gonna find Kimmeh’s shot too, And bring a victory back to the Zou! Zou, Zou, oh back to the Zou! But if we keep shooting the three like we have been… Then we’re shit outta luck
by darklighter09 on Jan 20, 2012 12:31 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Shooting on the road is always a problem, it seems
And shooting is what would win this game, if this game can be won. That, and Ratliffe showing up to play.
I say Baylor takes this one, and Mizzou beats them in Columbia. Be nice to steal a huge road win, but unless MU’s shooters suddenly find their range on the road (something that hasn’t happened in about three years) the margin of error is simply too small. Baylor 76, Mizzou 68.
i believe the spread will be closer to 40.
and we won’t beat them in columbia.
What do you have against the ring-tailed lemur?
by threadkiller on Jan 20, 2012 6:44 PM CST up reply actions
Tri to teach me how to Dixon
Dixon
Denmon
Ratliffe
trireme fecta
Denmon myrmidon
Kimmeh slinger
Ratiliffe hoplite
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
biggest non-tourney game mizzou has participated in since?
denmon
dixon
steeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
-azruavatar
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 20, 2012 3:25 PM CST reply actions
monday.
What do you have against the ring-tailed lemur?
by threadkiller on Jan 20, 2012 6:45 PM CST up reply actions
Length and athleticism-fecta
English
Steeeeeeeeve
PPressey
I'm Keyon Dooling in the body of a skinny white kid.
by ratherfantastic on Jan 20, 2012 4:14 PM CST reply actions
Tri (and resist Petrino's snake oil, DGB) fecta
Flip
Dixon
Kimmeh
"KU, you're nothing to me now. You're not a rival, you're not a friend. I don't want to know you or what you do."
Do, Or Do Not, There Is No Try-fectur
Ratliffe
English
Dixon
by MIZZOUfaninAZ on Jan 20, 2012 5:05 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Really really stupid question
what exactly is the TRIFECTA again? I obviously had it all screwed up last time I quessed. Obviously I’m confused as to what the three positions are…
Thanks for any help!
...and wish I could edit the damn post
for the redundant “Obviously” and misspelling “guessed!” (was I really a J-school grad back in the day?) oh crud!
Who knows..
Just throw up three names and see what happens. Works (doesn’t work at all) for me.
"KU, you're nothing to me now. You're not a rival, you're not a friend. I don't want to know you or what you do."
Mizzou's top three finishers in Bill's AdjGS metric:
* AdjGS = a take-off of the Game Score metric (definition here) accepted by a lot of basketball stat nerds. It redistributes a team’s points based not only on points scored, but also by giving credit for assists, rebounds (offensive & defensive), steals, blocks, turnovers and fouls. It is a stat intended to determine who had the biggest overall impact on the game itself, instead of just how many balls a player put through a basket.
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itmustsucktohavetoreadthroughallthesetrifectasfecta:
dixon
denmon
flip
What do you have against the ring-tailed lemur?

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