Study Hall: Mizzou 89, Baylor 88
Your Trifecta: PPressey-Ratliffe-MPressey. Your winner: nobody!
First, some links:
- MUtigers.com: No. 5 Tigers Escape No. 3 Baylor with 89-88 Victory
- The Trib: Tigers topple Bears in top-five showdown
The Trib: MU's Ratliffe manhandles bigger Baylor frontcourt - The Missourian: Missouri chalks up road win against Baylor
The Missourian: PHOTO GALLERY: Missouri takes down Baylor - KC Star: No. 5 MU makes statement with win at No. 3 Baylor
KC Star: MU's Ratliffe has career game against big Baylor front line
KC Star: Tigers force Bears to drop zone defense - Post-Dispatch: Mizzou comes up huge at Baylor
Post-Dispatch: Mizzou applies brakes to a long skid on the road - PowerMizzou: Post-Game Hoops Thoughts
- SB Nation: Tigers Hold On For 89-88 Win
- Our Daily Bears: Baylors' Big XII Championship Hopes Dashed in Home Loss to Mizzou
- Fox Sports MW: It's all about toughness for Mizzou Tigers
- Hank's Sports Blog: Ratliffe scores career-high 27 points as No. 5 Missouri holds off No. 3 Baylor
- Searching For Billy Edelin: Five Takeaways: Missouri-Baylor
- CBS Sports: Missouri proves itself as legit in Waco
- ESPN.com: Rapid Reaction: Missouri 89, Baylor 88
ESPN.com: Missouri once again answers skeptics
ESPN.com: VIDEO: Fran Fraschilla on Mizzou's win at Baylor
With 9:42 left in yesterday's game, it looked like Mizzou had potentially blown an opportunity. Baylor had endured a stretch that saw them score on just four of 12 possessions, and following a technical foul on Baylor coach Scott Drew, the Bears had minimized damage by forcing a turnover and getting a layup from Quincy Acy. Mizzou called a 30-second timeout, up just 60-58. And then they went out and won the game.
9:35 - dunk by Ricardo Ratliffe (assist: Phil Pressey) (62-58)
9:16 - steal by Phil Pressey
8:58 - two free throws by Ricardo Ratliffe (64-58)
8:45 - steal by Phil Pressey
8:42 - layup by Phil Pressey (66-58)
8:27 - timeout by Baylor
8:17 - steal by Phil Pressey
7:59 - layup by Ricardo Ratliffe (assist: Phil Pressey) (68-58)
Mizzou would go up by as many as 12 points following two more layups (one by Ratliffe, one by Marcus Denmon) and a 3-pointer by Kim English with 5:07 left, but the surge that truly won Mizzou the game lasted under two minutes.
It is the Mizzou Way in 2011-12. Persevere, absorb as many blows as you can from your opponent, make a few defensive plays, nail a few open shots … and when your opponent lowers his right glove a bit, floor him with a left hook. (And while I tend to almost overdo the boxing analogies from time to time, I'm pretty sure "dunk-steal-FTs-steal-layup-steal-layup" is the perfect personification of a knockdown.) Mizzou scored on 10 consecutive possessions and built a cushion against a Top Five team with the game on the line. And as a bonus (as if a bonus were needed), they didn't do it by getting hot on tough 3-pointers. They manufactured points with defense and the burgeoning Flip-to-Ratliffe relationship that has taken an incredible step forward in the last month.
I said it yesterday afternoon, and I'll say it again: I am done trying to figure out what this team is capable of. We know, from the ranking they will receive in the next AP poll, that the sky is officially the limit. It's time to just sit back and watch what happens next.
Mizzou 89, Baylor 88
| Mizzou |
BU | |
| Pace (No. of Possessions) | 74.0 | |
| Points Per Minute | 2.23 | 2.20 |
| Points Per Possession (PPP) | 1.20 | 1.19 |
| Points Per Shot (PPS) | 1.62 | 1.40 |
| 2-PT FG% | 67.6% | 61.7% |
| 3-PT FG% | 33.3% | 43.8% |
| FT% | 71.0% | 81.8% |
| True Shooting % | 64.8% | 64.9% |
| Mizzou | BU | |
| Assists | 17 | 23 |
| Steals | 11 | 7 |
| Turnovers | 18 | 19 |
| Ball Control Index (BCI) (Assists + Steals) / TO |
1.56 | 1.58 |
| Mizzou | BU | |
| Expected Offensive Rebounds | 10 | 10 |
| Offensive Rebounds | 14 | 11 |
| Difference | +4 | +1 |
Not Even Their Best Game
Mizzou's deficiencies in this game tell almost as big a story as their successes. The Tigers made just seven of 21 3-pointers, lost the BCI battle, and, in the game's first 38:56, made just 63 percent of their free throws. They got an iffy (at best) game from Marcus Denmon (3-for-9 shooting, five turnovers), and microwavable Mike Dixon stayed cool from the field (1-for-5). And Mizzou won anyway.
Mizzou held a strong offense, with a much-anticipated length advantage, to just 1.05 points per possession until the frantic final minute or so. (The Bears scored 22 points on their final 11 possessions.) They held great outfit of 3-point shooters to just 2-for-their-first-10. THEY OUTREBOUNDED THE BEARS. They got a career game from Ricardo Ratliffe. They got 18 points, seven assists, six steals and five rebounds from their sophomore point guard. They got 18 big minutes from Steve Moore. They got a nearly perfect Matt Pressey (barring the once-per-game silly shooting foul). And they proved that they are strong enough to reel in their first road win over a Top Five team in 18 years without playing their best.
Good On Baylor
We can talk about how Mizzou's "left hook" above proved that a lot of Baylor's flaws during Scott Drew's tenure -- specifically, their general mental weakness and inability to recover from glitches -- but we do have to give them credit for something: Mizzou did very little wrong in the last minute of play, and Baylor still almost caught up. Mizzou made 10 of 12 free throws and didn't turn the ball over, yet they still saw a seven-point lead cut to one as the buzzer sounded.
With 1:04 left, A.J. Walton missed a 3-pointer. Ratliffe pulled down the rebound and made two enormous free throws to give Mizzou an 81-74 lead. Then Pierre Jackson made a 3-pointer with 51 seconds left, Quincy Miller drove in for a layup with 36 seconds left, Miller manufactured a 3-point play (thanks to a stupid play by Kim English -- he went for the block and got whistled instead of just letting Miller lay the ball in) with 26 seconds left, Pierre Jackson made a running 3-pointer with five seconds left, and Brady Heslip made another 3 with a hand in his face at the buzzer. If Mizzou makes only nine of 12 free throws in the final 64 seconds, the game goes to overtime. And if Heslip doesn't miss a shot with 14 seconds left, Baylor quite possibly wins. Yes, the foul English committed was silly, and yes, Mizzou did technically miss two free throws (though complaining about 83% from the line in a tight final minute will fall on deaf ears with me), but I found very little to complain about in that stretch. Mizzou did enough to close in a hostile environment, and a very good team almost came back anyway.
One And Done
In the first half, Baylor shot 52 percent from the field and had a better BCI than Missouri, yet Mizzou took a four-point lead into halftime for the oddest of reasons: rebounding. In terms of expected rebounds, Mizzou was plus-6. Now, as mentioned in the preview, Baylor isn't a very good defensive rebounding team despite its length. The Bears play a lot of zone, which is not necessarily friendly to rebounding, and "bigs" like Perry Jones III and Quincy Miller do not always play very big. (Miller, in fact, had zero defensive rebounds for the day.) But Mizzou wiped the Bears off of the offensive glass in the first half as well, and that was stunning. It is officially impossible to predict when Mizzou will have "it" on the glass and when they won't, but they're doing better and better. They have basically broken even against "real" opponents in 2011-12, and that's ... well, it's going to be hard to beat Missouri if you cannot pummel them on the glass.
Mizzou Player Stats
(Definitions at the bottom of the post.)
| Player |
AdjGS | GmSc/Min | Line |
| Phil Pressey | 22.6 | 0.73 | 31 Min, 18 Pts (6-11 FG, 2-5 3PT, 4-8 FT), 7 Ast, 6 Stl, 5 Reb, 4 TO |
| Ricardo Ratliffe | 22.5 | 0.66 | 34 Min, 27 Pts (11-14 FG, 5-7 FT), 8 Reb (6 Off), 2 Blk, 6 TO |
| Matt Pressey | 11.2 | 0.40 | 28 Min, 9 Pts (3-5 FG, 3-3 3PT), 3 Ast, 2 Reb |
| Kim English | 8.6 | 0.32 | 27 Min, 10 Pts (4-8 FG, 1-3 3PT, 1-2 FT), 4 Ast, 2 Reb, 5 PF |
| Marcus Denmon | 7.8 | 0.20 | 39 Min, 15 Pts (3-9 FG, 1-7 3PT, 8-10 FT), 3 Reb, 5 TO |
| Steve Moore | 7.4 | 0.41 | 18 Min, 4 Pts (2-3 FG), 3 Reb (2 Off), 2 Blk |
| Mike Dixon | 6.4 | 0.28 | 23 Min, 6 Pts (1-5 3PT, 0-3 3PT, 4-4 FT) |
- I'm happy that Phil Pressey missed four of eight free throws and turned the ball over four times. It reminds me that he still has plenty of room for growth despite the fact that he almost single-handedly won this game over a two-minute stretch.
- Ricardo Ratliffe averaged 1.93 points per field goal attempt, made two key free throws down the stretch (and 70 percent for game), pulled in almost as many offensive rebounds (six) as Quincy Acy (three), Quincy Miller (four) and Perry Jones III (zero) combined ... and raised his season field goal percentage.
- I'm sorry, I just wanted to type this again. Ricardo Ratliffe averaged 1.93 points per field goal attempt, made two key free throws down the stretch (and 70 percent for game), pulled in almost as many offensive rebounds (six) as Quincy Acy (three), Quincy Miller (four) and Perry Jones III (zero) combined ... and raised his season field goal percentage. Goodness.
- As was pointed out yesterday, Matt Pressey now has a better 3-point percentage for the season (40.5%) than Marcus Denmon (40.3%). Yes, Pressey's are infinitely more open -- as we've discussed for a while, opponents are going to key on Denmon and Kim English and force the Presseys to make jumpers whenever possible -- but the fact that he is making them makes Mizzou an incredibly dangerous team. When playing Missouri, you probably aren't going to have the quickness advantage, and you are going to have to make choices. As much as possible, to account for Mizzou's strengths, that "choice" is going to be "sag off of Matt Pressey a bit and hope he doesn't beat you." Instead, Big Pressey made all three of his 3-pointers, averaged 1.80 points per field goal attempt, had a 4.00 BCI (three assists, one steal, one turnover), and pulled down a pair of defensive boards. That is an absolutely perfect contribution from him.
- Yes, he fouled out, and yes, his fifth foul was a bit silly. But Kim English once again played a perfect glue game yesterday. He ceded the offense to Flip-to-Ratliffe, he dished four assists, and he made what could have been the dagger 3-pointer with five minutes left.
- First half from STEEEEEEEEEEVE: 14 minutes, four points, two offensive rebounds and two blocks. When Kimmeh picked up two pretty quick fouls, Mizzou was forced to play both of their bigs for most of the half. And Steve acquitted himself incredibly well. He was barely needed in the second half, but he not only kept Mizzou afloat in the first half -- he kept them ahead.
| Player | Usage% | Floor% | Touches/ Poss. |
%Pass | %Shoot | %Fouled | %T/O |
| P. Pressey | 28% | 44% | 5.6 | 66% | 18% | 10% | 6% |
| Ratliffe | 31% | 49% | 2.1 | 0% | 55% | 22% | 23% |
| M. Pressey | 10% | 54% | 2.3 | 75% | 21% | 0% | 4% |
| English | 17% | 48% | 3.5 | 69% | 23% | 5% | 3% |
| Denmon | 22% | 31% | 2.0 | 21% | 32% | 29% | 18% |
| Moore | 8% | 61% | 0.5 | 0% | 100% | 0% | 0% |
| Dixon | 16% | 35% | 2.5 | 56% | 24% | 15% | 5% |
To the checklist!
Marcus Denmon's Usage% needs to be 23% or higher. (No.)
Kim English's %T/O needs to be at 10% or lower. (Yes!)
Kim English's Floor% should be at 35% or higher. (Yes!)
Ricardo Ratliffe's %Fouled should be at least 10%. (Yes!)
Phil Pressey's Touches/Possession need to be 3.5 or better. (Yes!)
Mike Dixon's %Pass should be 55% or higher. (Yes!)
Steve Moore's Touches/Possession should be at least 1.0. (No.)
Mizzou came awfully close to seven-for-seven here -- another field goal attempt (or assist, or turnover, or anything), each, from Denmon and Moore, and that probably would have done it. Mizzou's identity goes so far beyond Denmon, 3-point shooting, etc., at this point, and they can beat you in many different ways.
Three Keys Revisited
Road Things
And really, this is three keys in one. So you get five keys this time! By "Road Things," I mean a) offensive rebounds, b) fouls and c) Phil Pressey. If Mizzou acquits itself in these three categories, it can win any road game. If. If, if, if.
Expected Offensive Rebounds: Mizzou +4, Baylor +1
Fouls: Baylor 25, Mizzou 14
Phil Pressey: phenomenal
I think it's safe to say that Mizzou did the "road things" relatively well, huh?
Bombs Away
Baylor's offense ranks 14th on 3-point percentage (Mizzou's defense ranks 160th), while Mizzou's offense ranks 21st in the same category (Baylor's D: 128th). Both teams could get smoking hot from long range ... but if just one does, that team generates one heck of an advantage.
First 39 minutes: Mizzou 7-for-21 (33%), Baylor 2-for-10 (20%)
Baylor got hot late, but Mizzou flustered them considerably for the first 39 minutes, and it was one of many reasons they won. They didn't allow open looks (the quintessential play, of course, was Kim English hustling back to block what figured to be an open Brady Heslip look with about 10 minutes left), and while they didn't make many bombs themselves, they negated a potential Baylor advantage.
Ratliffe Watch
In Mizzou's one loss this season, Ricardo Ratliffe was dreadful: two points, one rebound and four fouls in 14 minutes. He was simply swallowed whole by a long, athletic, intense Kansas State squad. Ratliffe probably doesn't need to meet his season averages (14 points, seven rebounds) for Mizzou to win -- even if he meets those criteria, Mizzou probably needs the above factors to come away with a 'W' -- but he has to bring something to the table. Then again ... he pulled down four offensive rebounds on the way to an 11 & 13 game last year against Baylor. That might not be a bad place to start.
Yeah, um, I think Ratliffe one-upped himself here. Mizzou did need him to play well, and he was phenomenal.
Summary
This is fun. Let's try a few more "First time since..." instances in the next couple of months. Maybe even some "First evers" as well.
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AdjGS: a take-off of the Game Score metric (definition here) accepted by a lot of basketball stat nerds. It takes points, assists, rebounds (offensive & defensive), steals, blocks, turnovers and fouls into account to determine an individual's "score" for a given game. The "adjustment" in Adjusted Game Score is simply matching the total game scores to the total points scored in the game, thereby redistributing the game's points scored to those who had the biggest impact on the game itself, instead of just how many balls a player put through a basket.
Usage%: This "estimates the % of team possessions a player consumes while on the floor" (via). The usage of those possessions is determined via a formula using field goal and free throw attempts, offensive rebounds, assists and turnovers. The higher the number, the more prevalent a player is (good or bad) in a team's offensive outcome. As you would expect, someone like Kim English has a high Usage%, while Steve Moore has an extremely low one.
Floor%: Via Basketball-Reference.com: Floor % answers the question, "when Player X uses a possession, what is the probability that his team scores at least 1 point?". The higher the Floor%, the more frequently the team probably scores when the given player is involved.
Touches/Possession: Using field goal attempts, free throw attempts, assists and turnovers, Touches attempt to estimate "the number of times a player touched the ball in an attacking position on the floor." Take the estimated touches and divide it by the estimated number of possessions for which a player was on the court, and you get a rough idea of how many times a player touched the ball in a given possession. For point guards, you'll see the number in the 3-4 range. For shooting guards and wings, 2-3. For Steve Moore, 1.30. You get the idea.
Anyway, using the Touches figure, we can estimate the percentage of time a player "in an attacking position" passes, shoots, turns the ball over, or gets fouled.
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Flip Pressey
After watching yesterday’s game, does anyone else think that Flip Pressey could be MU football’s #1 CB?
E.J. Gaines would like a word.
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by RPT on Jan 22, 2012 9:33 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions 2 recs
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Despite evidence to the contrary.
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Not sure about CB
but I do think he could take some snaps from under center and run the option to perfection with Ratliffe to dish it off to.
Matt Pressey is the king of the trifecta assassination.
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by RPT on Jan 22, 2012 9:32 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions 1 recs
Sagarin has us #1
Gottlieb has tOSU #1.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
Interesting
That when you look only at the rating which includes scoring margin, we are just seventh (Baylor 13th, tOSU 1st, Kansas 2nd).
Gottlieb
would not put Mizzou in the tournament if he had sole control of the selection
Bum Bum DALLAS Bum Bum STARS YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
MIZ! ZOU!
Gottlieb was saying yesterday
that our game was NOT really a 1 point victory…that it was more of a 10 point victory type game. As much as I dislike Gottlieb, getting on him for that, like many did yesterday, is a bit silly.
i disagree, cbonerfied. he's earned every bit of that sort of treatment with his pettiness.
What do you have against the ring-tailed lemur?
by threadkiller on Jan 22, 2012 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
He's petty, for sure
and he deserves our scorn.
But he was complementing us on our performance yesterday, saying that was NOT a one point victory in reality.
you're right.
he was probably implying it was a 10 point defeat somehow.
What do you have against the ring-tailed lemur?
by threadkiller on Jan 22, 2012 1:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I could imagine why he would hate us more than others
the beating he must have endured from the Antlers would have been relentless. They probably had all kinds of colorful comments for him.
“Hey beware, Gottlieb will take the charge……………………card”
by M Krip on Jan 22, 2012 1:19 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He's been generally complimentary this year in the douchiest way possible
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
by Gaknar on Jan 22, 2012 2:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That's how I would be as an analyst in regards to great Kansas teams as well.
I just wouldn’t have the strength or class like a Jon Sundvold to be able to hide it when I was forced to have to address that team.
Well folks it would go like this.
Despite being beaten up by the basketball team several years ago, the Kansas football team had their Spring Game earlier today.
The Jayhawks, a team that knowingly used an ineligible player in 1960 to rob Mizzou of a national championship, has received four three star commitments so far during this recruiting year.
by M Krip on Jan 22, 2012 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Not impressed with Baylor
Their bigs did not play big,
Acy did.
But yeah, Jones and Quincy Miller are guards in bigs’ bodies.
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Jones is quite the enigma
It has to frustrate Scott Drew. Then again, Drew doesn’t strike me as someone who’s willing to rattle a player’s cage…ever.
I thought firing Joe Paterno was the right thing to do
but I’m still bummed he died.
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by Mac6uffin on Jan 22, 2012 9:57 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Yep.
Absolutely nothing is black-and-white with Paterno in the last three months.
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Avoiding commenting on him at all costs to avoid drawing the ire and wrath of the masses.
But, rec’d. Completely rec’d.
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Matt Pressey robbed of a basket?
I thought he had a reverse layup on a great feed from Denmon. But according to the stats, only had 3 point field goals. Did they give the bucket to Flip?
by ATS on Jan 22, 2012 10:00 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Swear I was thinking the same thing yesterday
It was clearly Matt, and he should have been in double figures. Nice job scorekeepers.
So if you go with the concept that Gottlieb is a "Skip Bayless" in the making
He makes a lot more sense. I’m convinced they tell certain analysts to develop this persona and run with it.
You either die a Tiger, or you live long enough to see yourself become a Jayhawk.
Oh I think Gottlieb is more like Spencer Hall without the talent or sense of humor.
It’s okay to troll people (and let’s be honest, he clearly trolls Mizzou fans at every opportunity, and in return, Mizzou fans respond to him exactly as he wants on Twitter), but he does it with spite instead of a wink. He isn’t doing it just to get a rise, he does it because he thinks he’s 100% right about almost everything.
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Presented again without comment
GottliebShow Doug Gottlieb
@Mizzou_BBFan Ur handle is Mizzou BB fan,leave the cognitive thought to an analyst,not a fan—u should enjoy the win
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
Joe Morgan was the greatest analyst baseball has ever seen
Those cyber nerd fans should have kept their nose out!
As soon as ESPN hires an analyst, people probably would.
Or maybe some other network gets started to compete with them using actual analysts…
wishful thinking
I find Jay Bilas to be quite strong
If Hubert Davis researched players’ names, I’d like him enough as well. Raftery and Vitale, while short on numeric data and biased towards certain powerhouses, bring an enthusiasm to the game that no one else can match in CBB.
The rest could permanently lose their vocal chords and I wouldn’t be sad.
I like Fran a lot
and it’s hard to beat Bob Knight.. Granted, he loves Mizzou this season, but while he isn’t the most exciting, he really does tell it like it is and I appreciate his commentary as actually insightful instead of just “OMG WOWOWOWOWOWOW” ala Gus Johnson (one of my other favorites)
I believe in the The Black & Gold Standard
I forgot about Bob Knight
Fran’s just okay.
I’m only speaking about the ESPN CBB personalities, because I love Gus.
shoot me now, then.
What do you have against the ring-tailed lemur?
by threadkiller on Jan 22, 2012 2:01 PM CST up reply actions
love bob knight
first analyst i’ve ever heard who’s not afraid to call plays dumb on a regular basis. he says exactly whay he really thinks, and that’s all i ask.
capital letters suck.
To be fair, I don't actually watch him or listen to him
I just occasionally see video clips on ESPN or quotes (like Gaknar posted) that lead me to this opinion. You’re certainly right that he probably does it more spitefully than Bayless, but then he doesn’t have the same number of years living under a bridge.
You either die a Tiger, or you live long enough to see yourself become a Jayhawk.
Spencer without the talent or sense of humor
is Skip Bayless.
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by D-Sing on Jan 22, 2012 12:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
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"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
by Gaknar on Jan 22, 2012 10:22 AM CST reply actions 9 recs
I LOL’d at work.
Fight, Tigers, Fight for 'ol Mizzou!
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by McNabb2Maclin4Philly on Jan 22, 2012 11:35 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Well Ohio State does have that big road win over
….South Carolina?
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I'd like to present this gem (again) to RMN
This “bracketologist” updated his bracket last night after the games were complete. His is “a projection of what he thinks the bracket will look like in March”, not based on results thus far.
Note the 3 line and who is ahead of us.
http://basketballpredictions.blogspot.com/2012/01/w-7-bp68.html
Yeah, Florida reminds me a lot of Mizzou last year.
Can’t win on the road. Don’t think they’ll finish strong enough to be a 2.
I have a bet with a friend that mizzou will go farther than florida in the tournament.
If that doesnt happen. I will never here the end of it.
Your Trifecta: English-Denmon-Ratliffe. Your winners: the_k and, for the second straight game, Tigersintheheart. One more, and I guess we have to start calling it the Tigersintheheartfecta.
by Tigersintheheart on Jan 22, 2012 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
HEAR*
Your Trifecta: English-Denmon-Ratliffe. Your winners: the_k and, for the second straight game, Tigersintheheart. One more, and I guess we have to start calling it the Tigersintheheartfecta.
by Tigersintheheart on Jan 22, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
Washington post
Has Baylor as a 1 (and conf champs) with Mizzou and the beakers as 2’s
Upholding fine Mizzou traditions in Maryland.
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by Ausgiano on Jan 22, 2012 12:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If that is pre-yesterday, I think that's very fair
And Mizzou as a 2 at the end of the season would work just fine for me.
Well, it was in this mornings
But ifit was generated yesterday, then I could get behind it.
Upholding fine Mizzou traditions in Maryland.
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by Ausgiano on Jan 22, 2012 2:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
And Texas is a 0.5
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
How can anyone be projecting Texas as a single digit seed at this point?
They’ll be lucky to even make the tourney.
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Ha well if the guy worked for ESPN...
…I can think of 300 million reasons
by MizzouRugby on Jan 22, 2012 12:23 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
I went to Big 12 last night and saw Steve.
I said thanks and he gave me a hug. It was a pretty special moment.
by groggydog on Jan 22, 2012 11:14 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
More special...
… than your moment with ghtd on Faurot Field after the Oklahoma game?
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Did they hold eachother gently?
Your Trifecta: English-Denmon-Ratliffe. Your winners: the_k and, for the second straight game, Tigersintheheart. One more, and I guess we have to start calling it the Tigersintheheartfecta.
by Tigersintheheart on Jan 22, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
Story for tigersintheheart:
ghtd and I knew each other through family and friends back home, but had never met. After we rushed the field against OU, I was wandering around and saw a guy in a Rangers hat. Since the night before was the win to take us into the WS, I said something in passing and then we parted ways. A few minutes later I ran into him again and realized: hey that’s probably ghtd. So I asked him awkwardly and sure enough it was! So we snapped a photo and lived it up.

But to answer your question, RPT, it’s a toss up. Drunken Steve Moore is pretty hilarious.
why is a rangers hat ok
and a twins hat not? different sports?
/ducks
What do you have against the ring-tailed lemur?
by threadkiller on Jan 22, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
different sports meaning the twins hat was seen at a basketball game, obv.
What do you have against the ring-tailed lemur?
by threadkiller on Jan 22, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
hey this is pretty cool.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 22, 2012 12:23 PM CST up reply actions
My thoughts exactly
How much love was STEEEEEEEEEEVE getting? He played a significant role this game as well. Blocks, steals, valuable minutes.
You either die a Tiger, or you live long enough to see yourself become a Jayhawk.
So how excited should I be getting?
I’ve never really payed attention to basketball before, so I have no idea if we are good or if we are GOOD
Oh and kU ticket? Ya I got one. Gameday? Ya I’m going.
Better than 09?
Maybe. We’re certainly better at this point of the season than that team was. But that team finished STRONG. If the Tigers hold home court this year, they’ll be better than that team was.
Most people will judge it off of the NCAA run, though.
Was that the Elite 8 run year?
I thought it was 08, but again, I don’t follow basketball, not until now.
I want to win the Big Mess Tournament outright this year. Stick it to kU
08-09 season.
What do you have against the ring-tailed lemur?
by threadkiller on Jan 22, 2012 2:01 PM CST up reply actions
If we can just avoid every Big East team in the tourney...
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So that ND win is looking a little better, yeah
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by BigMOman on Jan 22, 2012 11:57 AM CST reply actions 4 recs
and we beat them by 35 when they had abromitis
I AM A METH AGGIE
by pinkelposse on Jan 22, 2012 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
Lucky for them they got cured
Now they’re playing well
by CBonerfied on Jan 22, 2012 12:48 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Woo!
GoodmanCBS Jeff Goodman
Honestly, it’s a tough call – based on resume – between Kentucky and Missouri right now for the No. 1 spot.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
i think it's gotta be kentucky.
mizzou has some nice wins but kentucky’s beaten louisville, kU, and UNC. and their loss is by 1 on the road to a top 20 team.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 22, 2012 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think the Tigers merit #1 over Kentucky
it’s not really a tough call.
I see #3 on Monday, because the media and the CBB world loves them some Syracuse.
I am really confident it will be number two ranking.
I bet Syracuse falls to third and there is no way we overtake Kentucky. I wonder if we do land a couple first place votes though.
I'm hoping we drop in the polls.
Give our team a little bit of anger to play even harder.
I love how Haith handled the win
Telling our team to not over celebrate. Winners expect to win not act surprised. Haith- not excepting mediocracy.
by McZou on Jan 22, 2012 12:35 PM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Completely agree
But I must admit, I LOVED seeing Phlip wave at the crowd right after the game…
by MizzouRugby on Jan 22, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
Phil was smiling throughout alot of that game.
He just seemed so relaxed like he was really enjoying himself. I noticed this and felt really good that he along with the other Tigers just weren’t intimidated in the least bit.
Here's hoping we see more of that
in Lawrence.
"KU, you're nothing to me now. You're not a rival, you're not a friend. I don't want to know you or what you do."
Wow, Ratliffe played alot of minutes in that game and he really seemed to have high energy all the way through it.
I really love seeing that.
Ratliffe was a man yesterday.
He just outworked Baylor’s bigs all day, and it was freakin awesome!
Like I said before looks like hitler was wrong about coach Haith among other things.
by dp2 on Jan 22, 2012 12:54 PM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
It just dawned on me that of Mizzou's remaining 6 road games
They will be prohibitive favorites in 4 of them: TAMU, OSU, TT, and OU.
Kenpom has one as a toss-up: UT.
And then kU.
In order of difficulty, Mizzou has played their second, third, and fifth toughest road games they will have this season, and are 2-1.
This is so much fun.
Hey Bill C... Love the work you do and I am not complaining
I just think your graph is wrong… I question the final 4 seconds where Mizzou’s safety on the win drops below 10% but we are up by 4 points… I think it is backwards and we should be better than 90% to win….. Which we did after a prayer 3 went in….
Not my graph.
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…it really isn’t very helpful, honestly. It’s good for use earlier in the game, but funky things happen at the end.
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I never really paid much attention to it honestly, but I have always wondered how it was determined
I believe in the The Black & Gold Standard
I would think with :04 left and a 4 point lead
you cannot be assured of the win with any kind of confidence approaching 90 %. All it takes is a stupid play on a 3 pointer to force a tie.
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If it's based on Bill James' lead safety measure...
… then it’s the following:
- Take the number of points one team is ahead.
- Subtract three.
- Add a half-point if the team that is ahead has the ball, and subtract a half-point * if the other team has the ball. (Numbers less than zero become zero.)
- Square that.
- If the result is greater than the number of seconds left in the game, the lead is safe.
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by RPT on Jan 22, 2012 8:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
given our record, it's hard to be perturbed about anything,
and don’t get me wrong, there’s nothing our guys can really do about this, but MAN, OH MAN, AM I TIRED OF SEEING BUZZER BEATER PRAYERS GOING IN THE BASKET.
What do you have against the ring-tailed lemur?
I don't like seeing any opponent's shot going in the basket
but would I would have hated to see even more is Matt Pressey or any other Tiger having it in his head that he needs to not let that guy shoot that last shot into the basket.
by M Krip on Jan 22, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, that's why you have to let the guy shoot it,
it’s just amazing the percentage of those that seem to go in.
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by threadkiller on Jan 22, 2012 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
So it turns out that William Jewel should be the new #1 in college basketball after the vote today
You see…
Notre Dame lost to Rutgers
Rutgers lost to Illinois State
Illinois State lost to Evansville
Evansville lost to UIC
UIC lost to Quincy University
Quincy University lost to William Jewel
Indisputable evidence that William Jewel in the best college basketball team in the good ole U S of A.
by Jerilac on Jan 22, 2012 4:28 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Illinois loses
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