Study Hall: Mizzou 75, Old Dominion 68
Your Trifecta: Denmon-Ratliffe-PPressey. Your winner: not surprisingly, a lot of people. For this most common of Trifectas, Fullback U, Tigersintheheart, AlaTiger and MIZ-FKU all won. Sucks to be you guys -- you have to split your Denmoney amongst each other.
We start with some links, since I haven't actually provided any yet:
MUtigers.com: Denmon Helps No. 8 Missouri Beat Old Dominion 75-68
The Trib: Tigers survive scare at ODU
KC Star: Denmon leads No. 8 Missouri past Old Dominion
KC Star: Tigers make tracks early
KC Star: MU notebook | Ratliffe has double-double in homecoming
Post-Dispatch: Mizzou pulls out a tough victory
PowerMizzou: Post Game Hoops Thoughts
The Missourian: Missouri men's basketball defeats Old Dominion
Fox Sports MW: Mizzou off to strong start, defeats Old Dominion
The Virginian-Pilot: ODU falls to No. 8 Missouri 75-68 in hard-fought loss
Mizzou enters their final season of Big 12 play (it never gets old, or less weird, saying that) with quite a few questions to answer. Really, however, these are the same questions they had at the beginning of the year: perimeter defense was a problem last year, and rebounded looked to be an occasionally crippling liability, considering this team was bad at it last year and had only two bigs in the regular rotation. Phil Pressey still loses his mind (in a bad way) from time to time. Steve Moore still goes for stupid blocks and leaves himself exposed on the glass. Mike Dixon's jumper still comes and goes. Marcus Denmon still disappears from time to time. All of the things we feared about this team are true.
The difference is, the upside is quite a bit greater than any of us thought. Even with Pressey wasting a few possessions and Denmon misplacing his jump shot, Mizzou still averaged 1.15 points per possession last Friday night, an average they exceeded on the road just twice all of last season. They still rank second in the country in offensive efficiency, first in Eff. FG % and second in Turnover %. They are still 15th in 3-point shooting, second in 2-point shooting and ninth in free throw shooting. They are also still registering steals at a high rate and rarely fouling. And perhaps most importantly, they are still the ninth-most experienced team in the country.
The weaknesses haven't changed, and they aren't going to; but the way they put those weaknesses on full display and still found ways to beat two teams playing well, away from home, was impressive regardless. This team may not win the Big 12, and they may not end up a top seed in the NCAA Tournament when all is said and done. But it is a strong team, one capable of "falling" to 10th in Ken Pomeroy's rankings after "only" winning by seven points on the road. They are a few hefty steps ahead of last season's team, and I don't think any of us were willing to predict that to be the case two months ago.
Mizzou 75, Old Dominion 68
| Mizzou |
ODU | |
| Pace (No. of Possessions) | 65.1 | |
| Points Per Minute | 1.88 | 1.70 |
| Points Per Possession (PPP) | 1.15 | 1.05 |
| Points Per Shot (PPS) | 1.39 | 1.10 |
| 2-PT FG% | 51.4% | 50.0% |
| 3-PT FG% | 41.2% | 30.0% |
| FT% | 59.3% | 50.0% |
| True Shooting % | 56.9% | 49.2% |
| Mizzou | ODU | |
| Assists | 16 | 14 |
| Steals | 11 | 5 |
| Turnovers | 12 | 15 |
| Ball Control Index (BCI) (Assists + Steals) / TO |
2.25 | 1.27 |
| Mizzou | ODU | |
| Expected Offensive Rebounds | 12 | 14 |
| Offensive Rebounds | 12 | 20 |
| Difference | +0 | +6 |
Golf Clap
First things first: some major kudos go to Old Dominion. I have no idea how that team was 6-6 heading into this game. In the first five minutes of the second half, Mizzou went on an incredible offensive run, one that convinced me that they would go on to win by 15-25 points. The Tigers scored 20 points in four minutes. Marcus Denmon made three straight 3-pointers, then Kim English made two. Flip Pressey had two steals and a monstrous dunk.
Mizzou went from down four points to up nine very quickly, and the run was ferocious enough that a lesser team would have folded. Old Dominion did not. They called timeout, gathered themselves, then immediately went on a 7-0 run of their own. They doubled their effort level (which was already rather high), and they rose from the canvas to record a knockdown of their own. It was a show of resilience, execution, experience and great coaching, and even though we as fans use each game through the lens of our own team (great results are our team's doing, bad results are our team's fault), ODU deserves a serious amount of credit for not only withstanding that run, but making one of their own.
Hello, Road
Old Dominion made shots they don't normally make, drew a few more fouls than Mizzou is used to committing (at least during the portions of the games where the refs weren't swallowing their whistles; nobody changes his mind about what constitutes a foul more times in 40 minutes than a college official), got a few calls Mizzou is not used to getting, and put in crazy effort on the offensive glass. Or to put it another way, Mizzou played on the road, and as a top-ranked team, no less. This isn't the last time that an opponent is going to put forth such a high-quality effort against the Tigers. Get used to it.
Bursts
If you had asked me right after the game, I would never have guessed that Mizzou shot 41 percent on 3-pointers or 48 percent on 2-pointers. I'd have guessed more like 33 percent and 44 percent. But that's the power of Mizzou's runs. They are so fierce that a) they more than make up for the slumps, and b) they make the slumps seem more stark. Mizzou was 2-for-12 on 3-pointers not taken in the first five minutes of the second half, but their quick streak of five in a row made up for that.
Mizzou Player Stats
(Definitions at the bottom of the post.)
| Player |
AdjGS | GmSc/Min | Line |
| Marcus Denmon | 20.9 | 0.54 | 39 Min, 19 Pts (5-13 FG, 4-9 3PT, 5-6 FT), 5 Ast, 3 Reb, 3 Stl |
| Ricardo Ratliffe | 19.9 | 0.60 | 33 Min, 14 Pts (6-8 FG, 2-7 FT), 11 Reb (4 Off), 2 Ast, 2 Blk |
| Phil Pressey | 12.7 | 0.34 | 37 Min, 14 Pts (5-10 FG, 0-1 3PT, 4-6 FT), 7 Ast, 3 Stl, 2 Reb, 5 TO |
| Kim English | 12.6 | 0.37 | 34 Min, 16 Pts (6-12 FG, 3-4 3PT, 1-2 FT), 6 Reb (3 Off) |
| Matt Pressey | 4.8 | 0.18 | 26 Min, 4 Pts (2-4 FG, 0-1 3PT, 0-1 FT), 3 Reb, 3 Stl, 2 Ast, 2 TO |
| Steve Moore | 2.9 | 0.24 | 12 Min, 2 Pts (0-0 FG, 2-2 FT), 2 Blk |
| Mike Dixon | -0.3 | -0.02 | 19 Min, 6 Pts (2-7 FG, 0-2 3PT, 2-3 FT) |
| Kadeem Green | -0.5 | N/A | 0+ Min, 1 PF |
- I spent about 30-33 minutes of the game worrying about Marcus Denmon. I spent the other 6-9 minutes marveling. He played poorly three-quarters of his time on the court, and he still found time to kickstart a 20-7 Mizzou run and nail what ended up being the game-winning 3-pointer. If only more players could look so good in their bad games.
- Because you were in front of a hometown crowd and clearly putting some pressure on yourself, Ricardo, and because that effort also translated into four offensive rebounds and two blocks, I'll look past the 2-for-7 performance from the free throw line.
- Like Mizzou as a whole, Phil Pressey's good moments simply overpower the bad ones, especially in the box score. Flip ended up with a BCI of 2.0, scored 14 points in 10 field goal attempts, and recorded yet another high-assist game. Makes it at least slightly easier to overlook the five turnovers and the few minutes in the second half where he once again tried far too hard to take over the game. He still proves himself a sophomore at key times.
- Kim English is still the same Kim English he's always been -- streaky, prone to turnovers, etc. -- only, he is far, far more mature. He has stepped up at key times in each of the past two games, and he has minimized the impact of the bad. And he draws charges like nobody's business.
| Player | Usage% | Floor% | Touches/ Poss. |
%Pass | %Shoot | %Fouled | %T/O |
| Denmon | 22% | 42% | 3.8 | 61% | 27% | 10% | 2% |
| Ratliffe | 17% | 57% | 2.3 | 46% | 31% | 22% | 0% |
| P. Pressey | 24% | 41% | 5.0 | 67% | 16% | 8% | 8% |
| English | 21% | 40% | 1.3 | 0% | 82% | 11% | 7% |
| M. Pressey | 13% | 35% | 2.2 | 63% | 22% | 4% | 11% |
| Moore | 8% | 36% | 0.7 | 0% | 0% | 62% | 38% |
| Dixon | 25% | 26% | 1.7 | 0% | 67% | 23% | 10% |
To the checklist!
Marcus Denmon's Usage% needs to be 23% or higher. (Nope.)
Kim English's %T/O needs to be at 10% or lower. (Yes!)
Kim English's Floor% should be at 35% or higher. (Yes!)
Ricardo Ratliffe's %Fouled should be at least 10%. (Yes!)
Phil Pressey's Touches/Possession need to be 3.5 or better. (Yes!)
Mike Dixon's %Pass should be 55% or higher. (Not even close.)
Steve Moore's Touches/Possession should be at least 1.0. (Nope.)
Four for seven. Not bad. Denmon fought invisibility at times, and Mike Dixon was far too much "ineffective shooting guard" and not nearly enough "complementary point," but you overlook that in wins, right?
Three Keys Revisited
Which Flip?
Phil Pressey lost control a bit against Illinois, attempting 15 field goals after shooting 15 in the previous two games combined. He is an often-brilliant point guard, but he still doesn't quite know how to seize control of a game when others aren't performing well. If he plays in control, doesn't force shots, and keeps penetrating and finding open men, Missouri isn't going to lose much in 2011-12. If he starts forcing shots and wasting possessions, however, tonight's game can be lost.
Phil Pressey: 37 minutes, 14 points, seven assists, three steals, five turnovers.
We got both Flips in the end.
The Glass
Mizzou has been surprisingly solid in terms of team rebounding this season, but effort can sometimes be an issue on the road. Mizzou was brilliant in the way they matched ODU's effort on the glass last year -- it was a primary reason for their blowout win -- and they will need to do so again. If the Tigers can stay within one or two in terms of expected rebounds, ODU will have to shoot very, very well to win.
Old Dominion: plus-6 in terms of offensive rebounding.
The Monarchs are not as good on the glass this year as last, but you couldn't tell it. They were phenomenal in their effort level in this regard, and Mizzou only matched the intensity for about half the game.
Welcome Home, Ricardo
This game is being billed a bit as Ricardo Ratliffe's homecoming. If the extra motivation results in high-quality play from Ratliffe, Mizzou should win easily. Sure, Mizzou needs to do the other typical "avoiding a road upset" things -- guarding the perimeter, etc. -- but if Ratliffe goes off, Mizzou will almost certainly get enough guard play to coast. But if he forces the issue and/or gets into early foul trouble, then ODU has enough depth up front to give Mizzou fits.
As with Flip, we got both Good Ricardo and Bad Ricardo. But it was enough.
Summary
I guess I've already summarized this one, haven't I? The only reason to be deeply troubled by this game is if you truly thought Mizzou had a chance to run (or nearly run) the table and end up a 1-seed in the NCAA Tournament. Poor games happen to all really good teams -- Syracuse barely beat Marshall, North Carolina barely beat Long Beach State, Duke barely beat Belmont, Michigan State let Lehigh hang around for a long time, etc. -- and Mizzou appeared a little stunned by the effort they got from ODU. But they won, and they are still on track for a very good season. They are not one of the top three or four teams in the country, and their weaknesses will certainly bite them from time to time in conference play. But in each of the last two games, they won games they very much could have lost, and there is quite a bit of solace in that.
OU preview coming later in the day.
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AdjGS: a take-off of the Game Score metric (definition here) accepted by a lot of basketball stat nerds. It takes points, assists, rebounds (offensive & defensive), steals, blocks, turnovers and fouls into account to determine an individual's "score" for a given game. The "adjustment" in Adjusted Game Score is simply matching the total game scores to the total points scored in the game, thereby redistributing the game's points scored to those who had the biggest impact on the game itself, instead of just how many balls a player put through a basket.
Usage%: This "estimates the % of team possessions a player consumes while on the floor" (via). The usage of those possessions is determined via a formula using field goal and free throw attempts, offensive rebounds, assists and turnovers. The higher the number, the more prevalent a player is (good or bad) in a team's offensive outcome. As you would expect, someone like Kim English has a high Usage%, while Steve Moore has an extremely low one.
Floor%: Via Basketball-Reference.com: Floor % answers the question, "when Player X uses a possession, what is the probability that his team scores at least 1 point?". The higher the Floor%, the more frequently the team probably scores when the given player is involved.
Touches/Possession: Using field goal attempts, free throw attempts, assists and turnovers, Touches attempt to estimate "the number of times a player touched the ball in an attacking position on the floor." Take the estimated touches and divide it by the estimated number of possessions for which a player was on the court, and you get a rough idea of how many times a player touched the ball in a given possession. For point guards, you'll see the number in the 3-4 range. For shooting guards and wings, 2-3. For Steve Moore, 1.30. You get the idea.
Anyway, using the Touches figure, we can estimate the percentage of time a player "in an attacking position" passes, shoots, turns the ball over, or gets fouled.
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I win I win I win!! lol
thanks for the review.
by Tigersintheheart on Jan 3, 2012 11:14 AM CST reply actions
Holy Cow that ODU game was such a tough slug fest all the way to the end.
It just looked like one of those games that was going to be a loss. The home crowd getting the game of their life and responding well to it and ODU not backing down and hitting us with everything they had, waiting for that big run that would put some seperation between the Tigers and ODU that never happened, it was almost surreal like the feeling I had during the Northern Iowa tourney loss many years ago. It just seemed like the perfect storm.
I kept telling my wife that as long as we can pull out a win, I am fine with the end of the winning streak coming in any game afterwards to a conference foe. I was really attached to Mizzou going undefeated through non conference play and setting myself up for the fall. I am so glad the Tigers won that game and now will allow myself to relax and just hope for a winning conference record as the basement for this team’s potential and everything greater than that is just bonus and good feelings.
...and the RMN crowd waits with baited breath
for the MU OU preview. You could cut the tension in the air with a Ginsu.
Never forget Wolf Island, or pie! #AHAMF, it's vaguely sordid.
well a Spider Monkey eats worms, so mine is baited.
You probably brush your teeth and eat mints though. :-)
Never forget Wolf Island, or pie! #AHAMF, it's vaguely sordid.
by Spider_Monkey on Jan 3, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
nice save...
I still dont believe you.
by Tigersintheheart on Jan 3, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
yummy gummy

Never forget Wolf Island, or pie! #AHAMF, it's vaguely sordid.
by Spider_Monkey on Jan 3, 2012 1:56 PM CST up reply actions
A comment on English...
At some point late in the second half, when Mizzou was stuck in one of the out of control stretches. The ball came out to Phil, and English walked over to him, basically got right in front of him, and appeared to point directly at the shot clock. It seemed like that calmed everyone down and we went on to take control from there. It was one of those great senior moments where you can really appreciate the experience these guys have. It was a really fun thing to watch in my opinion.
excellent point. I saw that too and said to a buddy...
…“Did Kimmie just call a play? Someone needed to because it sure never crossed Phil’s mind.”
Total heads-up move. I know these guys just want to compete, and so the tendency is to just brush it off and get after it on the other end, no matter how bad it’s getting. Big-time move from Kimmie.
@armyofmike
None of the best teams that Mizzou beat in the non-con
ND, Cal, Villanova or ODU, could finish in the top half of the Big 12 this year if their lives depended on it.
The conference season is going to be a grind. Protect the home floor, go at least 8-1 there (don’t let both Baylor and KU beat you at home, and hopefully, beat them both), and then take 4 or 5 wins on the road, if you’re lucky. 13-14 wins might be enough to bring home the championship belt. The round-robin home-and-home schedule will be a slugfest. You’re not going to find any 1-2 loss teams at the end of this season.
I think 11-7 is Mizzou’s baseline. With luck and few key road wins, they could make that 13-5 or 14-4.
Conference season isn't looking good for Okie State
Coach Travis Ford announced Monday that Jean-Paul Olukemi will miss the remainder of the year with a torn ACL, according to the Tulsa World’s Jimmie Trammel. The 6-foot-5 wing was averaging 9.8 points and 4.5 rebounds per game. He suffered the injury in Saturday’s loss to Virginia Tech.
We are DAVIDSON City!
Considering that conference play wasnt looking good for them in the first place..
This is huge. Other than TTU i cant think of a team they will have a good chance of beating.
by Tigersintheheart on Jan 3, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
If Davidson can do it...
Never forget Wolf Island, or pie! #AHAMF, it's vaguely sordid.
by Spider_Monkey on Jan 3, 2012 2:02 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I went to the ODU game
and that crowd was definitely firing up the ODU players. The few times the Mizzou fans started to chant the ODU fans took things over again pretty quickly. It was definitely a fun game to attend. Then, after a night of hitting the local bars, my friend and I went to D’Egg West to eat around 11 am the next day and the entire ODU team was there… and I was wearing my Mizzou hat and shirt – very awkward!
One of the things that stuck out to me watching the game live was how focused on the basket Dixon is when he has the ball. You can tell that he really wants to shoot every time he touches it. It’s great when he’s on I suppose, but on the days when he’s constantly trying to drive the lane against guys half a foot taller than him (or just as likely through them picking up the charge) he can really hurt the team. He also seems to make at least one monumentally bad decision per game, and it makes me really nervous when he’s put into a close game with a few minutes left despite his ability to make free throws.
On Dixon, I sort of agree ...
I think sometimes he does force up shots. But I really like his dribble penetration. I thought his slashing was huge for us in the first 1/2 of the IL game. During that game, Knight kept on remarking how we’ve settled for meh jumpshots in the second 1/2, instead of dribble penetrating.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
Mike Dixon
is a scorer in a point guard’s body. He bites off a little more than he can chew sometimes, but Dixon knows how to score the ball. I’m more concerned with his inconsistent perimeter shooting than I am with his drives to the hoop. He usually finishes pretty well if he can get near the rim.
You want a guy with that sort of killer instinct on the team.
I really like him for the defensive intensity he infuses into the game everytime he enters.
The guy is high octane and is probably my favorite player.
And he draws fouls quite regularly
more than any Mizzou guard I can remember, off the top of my head
It's not that I don't like him
He’s definitely an exciting player, and certainly pressures the other team more than anybody else on the team. If he can learn to focus his intensity and learn how to play as smart as he does amped up he can be a really good player. The way he plays I’m glad he’s the 6th man.
I was there as well...
I hope you were the guy around section 205 starting the M-I-Z chant towards the end of the game.
I was in section 116, toward the center...
I did try to start the M-I-Z chant a few times though
Slightly unrelated
Here’s a video of Domonique Bull talking Mizzou hoops, just posted today by Five Star Basketball. Hard not to like this guy.
I so hope this kid turns out to be a J.T. Tiller.
We have plenty of scorers coming in and i love that he likes playing D.
Instead of taking my talents to L.A. i took them to San Antonio because that is where all the real talent goes.
by Tigersintheheart on Jan 3, 2012 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
The Cliffs notes version
Domonique Bull takes 2+ minutes to list the Mizzou roster with questionable accuracy, and generic platitudes on each player, while displaying De’vion Moore crazy eyes at every turn. A+ would watch again.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Jan 3, 2012 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
He's a teenager
He’s gonna be a shooting guard, not a news anchor. He seemed humble and resigned to the idea that he has to earn his role, which is nice in this day and age of recruits walking out frustrated because they haven’t become an instant 35+ mpg superstar after three games.
This year it seems
that the team is learning new ways to win, instead of new ways to lose.
It appears that the check list is a great litmus test to see how overall things worked in favor of Mizzou, but I would like to see the check lists’ correlation with win margin later in the year.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 3, 2012 4:02 PM CST reply actions

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