Study Hall: Mizzou 67, Texas 66
First, two programming notes:
1. I'll be on 610 AM CT in Kansas City around 9:45(ish) AM or so to talk about both Mizzou-Texas and, of course, DGB.
2. No way in hell do I get to Rock-M-Tology today. I'm all sorts of behind, especially with tomorrow being National Signing Day. So, then, there are two choices: either I do it on Thursday or (more likely) Friday and make it a late-week feature moving forward, or I wait until next Monday. Your call. Thoughts?
Your Trifecta: Dixon-Ratliffe-PPressey. Your winner: soccerfreak!
We've got a pretty good "a road win is a road win" crowd here, so this reminder probably isn't necessary, but I will say that last night's game very much reminded me of one that took place three years and nine days earlier. Mizzou led Oklahoma State, 77-58, with under 12 minutes to go in January 2009, completely fell apart, then won anyway. Granted, with the way Texas was rebounding (and the way everybody but Mike Dixon and maybe Kim English were shooting), yesterday's 13-point lead with 16 minutes left did not feel tremendously safe. But still, Mizzou made many mistakes down the stretch, gathered themselves, then made the winning basket and played great defense on the final possession. And as that game three years ago showed us, style points simply do not matter on the road. The top five teams in the conference not named Missouri are almost certainly Kansas, Baylor, Texas, Iowa State and Kansas State in some order. Mizzou has now faced four of them on the road and have beaten three. Even if they had blown a 35-point lead last night and won anyway ... a win is a win. Survive, advance, et cetera.
Mizzou 67, Texas 66
| Mizzou |
Texas | |
| Pace (No. of Possessions) | 63.8 | |
| Points Per Minute | 1.68 | 1.65 |
| Points Per Possession (PPP) | 1.05 | 1.03 |
| Points Per Shot (PPS) | 1.20 | 1.16 |
| 2-PT FG% | 52.4% | 48.9% |
| 3-PT FG% | 35.7% | 16.7% |
| FT% | 72.7% | 66.7% |
| True Shooting % | 55.1% | 48.8% |
| Mizzou | Texas | |
| Assists | 11 | 5 |
| Steals | 7 | 4 |
| Turnovers | 10 | 13 |
| Ball Control Index (BCI) (Assists + Steals) / TO |
1.80 | 0.69 |
| Mizzou | Texas | |
| Expected Offensive Rebounds | 11 | 13 |
| Offensive Rebounds | 6 | 16 |
| Difference | -5 | +3 |
Texas Crushed Mizzou On The Boards This Year
In Big 12 plays, Mizzou is minus-18 in terms of Expected Rebounds. They were minus-14 in two games versus Texas and basically minus-4 versus everybody else. Mizzou made a concerted effort to limit J'Covan Brown's open looks and clog up the perimeter, and they did a solid job of it (Texas was 2-for-12 on 3-pointers and shot just 42 percent overall), but it came with a price. For certain periods, Texas was getting a second chance on virtually every missed shot. I was actually surprised that they were only plus-3 on the offensive side of the ball.
BCI! BCI!
Ball control was Mizzou's friend in two games versus Texas this year, and with poor shooting and iffy rebounding, it is the primary reason Mizzou is 7-2 in conference.
Mizzou Player Stats
(Definitions at the bottom of the post.)
| Player |
AdjGS | GmSc/Min | Line |
| Mike Dixon | 23.6 | 0.87 | 27 Min, 21 Pts (9-10 FG, 2-2 3PT, 1-1 FT), 4 Ast, 3 TO, 4 PF |
| Ricardo Ratliffe | 14.6 | 0.61 | 24 Min, 13 Pts (6-8 FG, 1-1 FT), 3 Reb (2 Off), 4 PF |
| Phil Pressey | 14.5 | 0.40 | 36 Min, 13 Pts (4-8 FG, 0-2 3PT, 5-6 FT), 5 Ast, 4 Reb, 2 Stl, 4 TO |
| Kim English | 10.8 | 0.27 | 40 Min, 8 Pts (3-8 FG, 2-5 3PT), 6 Reb, 3 Stl, 2 TO |
| Matt Pressey | 1.9 | 0.10 | 20 Min, 5 Pts (2-7 FG, 1-2 3PT), 2 Reb |
| Steve Moore | 0.0 | 0.00 | 18 Min, 1 Pt (0-3 FG, 1-2 FT), 3 Blk, 2 Reb, 4 PF |
| Marcus Denmon | -0.1 | -0.00 | 35 Min, 6 Pts (3-12 FG, 0-3 3PT, 0-1 FT), 5 Reb |
- Well hello there, Mike Dixon. Thank you for finding your range when almost nobody else could.
- 'Cardo only went to the line once, grabbed just one defensive rebound and committed four fouls. It was not his best effort. But he still made 75 percent of his shots, still scored 13 points, and still made his way into the trifecta.
- It was Mostly Good Flip in Austin. He lost control a couple of times, but that's the price you pay. Once or twice per game, he seems to make single-handed (points or assists) six- or eight-point runs, and yesterday was no exception.
- The less said about Marcus Denmon, the better. He is 29-for-93 (31%) in his last eight games, 12-for-52 (23%) on 3-pointers. You've got a few days off here, Marcus. Hope you find your legs. That Missouri is still winning despite his poor jumper means you don't have to do anything drastic here -- no, Haith is not going to be benching him anytime soon -- but there is no question that they will need Marcus' jumper if they want to win the Big 12. Hell, they'll probably have to have it if they want to beat Kansas this weekend.
| Player | Usage% | Floor% | Touches/ Poss. |
%Pass | %Shoot | %Fouled | %T/O |
| Dixon | 28% | 70% | 4.4 | 62% | 26% | 3% | 8% |
| Ratliffe | 20% | 70% | 1.2 | 0% | 86% | 14% | 0% |
| P. Pressey | 23% | 43% | 4.3 | 60% | 16% | 16% | 8% |
| English | 14% | 30% | 1.2 | 37% | 50% | 0% | 13% |
| M. Pressey | 20% | 30% | 2.0 | 46% | 54% | 0% | 0% |
| Moore | 12% | 12% | 1.0 | 0% | 54% | 46% | 0% |
| Denmon | 22% | 20% | 1.3 | 0% | 84% | 9% | 7% |
To the checklist!
Marcus Denmon's Usage% needs to be 23% or higher. (No.)
Kim English's %T/O needs to be at 10% or lower. (No.)
Kim English's Floor% should be at 35% or higher. (No.)
Ricardo Ratliffe's %Fouled should be at least 10%. (Yes.)
Phil Pressey's Touches/Possession need to be 3.5 or better. (Yes.)
Mike Dixon's %Pass should be 55% or higher. (Yes.)
Steve Moore's Touches/Possession should be at least 1.0. (No.)
Three-for-seven, though if Mike Dixon hadn't turned into a shooting guard in the second half (instead of showing the point guard tendencies we prefer), Mizzou probably wouldn't have won.
Three Keys Revisited
Brown Vs. Denmon
If Marcus Denmon is making his open 3's, Missouri is six to nine points better than they have been over the past few games. And depending on whether J'Covan Brown's are falling, Texas could be up to about 10-12 points better or worse. It stands to reason, then, that the spread of possible outcomes in this game is enormous. Whoever is more dialed in gives their team an enormous advantage.
Marcus Denmon: 35 minutes, six points (3-12 FG, 0-3 3PT, 0-1 FT)
J'Covan Brown: 38 minutes, 20 points (7-18 FG, 1-7 3PT, 5-8 FT)
Brown got his points, but he was inefficient. Still, he certainly won this battle.
Road Things
We know this one by now: offensive rebounds, fouls and Phil Pressey tend to make all the difference on the road. These things didn't cost Mizzou against Oklahoma State, but they did against Kansas State and nearly did against Old Dominion. If Good Phlip makes it to the Erwin Center, and if Mizzou hits the glass hard (think: Baylor game), they will have a good chance of moving to 20-2. But those are big ifs.
Expected Offensive Rebounds: Texas +8
Fouls: Mizzou 18, Texas 14
Phil Pressey: 0.40 AdjGS/Minute
Mizzou committed more fouls and got trounced on the boards. Meanwhile, Flip was good but not fantastic. How exactly did Mizzou win this game?
React
Ricardo Ratliffe's success has given Mizzou opponents a choice: do you go out of your way to prevent him from getting the ball, or do you continue to attempt to stick like glue to Denmon and Kim English, as has been the defensive strategy of choice for most of the year? Texas Tech chose to prevent Ratliffe, and English went 4-for-6 on 3-pointers early in the game. (Denmon, meanwhile, continuously failed to make his open jumpers.) 'Cardo had a lovely game versus Texas the first time around -- 21 points on 10-for-12 shooting -- so the 'Horns might adjust their defensive strategy. But for every action, there is a reaction. If that's what Texas chooses to do, Mizzou can kill them with jumpers. If they go in.
This game wasn't about reaction so much as adaption. Texas was able to mostly deny Ratliffe with single-coverage, and there were lengthy spans of time when they played great man defense. Mizzou was well below their season average in terms of points per possession, but they were still reasonably efficient thanks, basically, to their ability to recognize when Mike Dixon and Kim English were in good position to shoot, and their ability to score in transition in the second half.
Summary
Survive, advance, and kick-start Hate Week (after Signing Day, anyway). Despite Denmon's shooting woes, despite inconsistent rebounding, despite ball-handlers occasionally losing their collective mind, Mizzou will be tied for first place in the conference if they can win Saturday night. There's perspective, and there's that. Mizzou is grinding out wins despite failing in certain areas, and they have plenty of time to find their top form again. February should be just a little bit entertaining.
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AdjGS: a take-off of the Game Score metric (definition here) accepted by a lot of basketball stat nerds. It takes points, assists, rebounds (offensive & defensive), steals, blocks, turnovers and fouls into account to determine an individual's "score" for a given game. The "adjustment" in Adjusted Game Score is simply matching the total game scores to the total points scored in the game, thereby redistributing the game's points scored to those who had the biggest impact on the game itself, instead of just how many balls a player put through a basket.
Usage%: This "estimates the % of team possessions a player consumes while on the floor" (via). The usage of those possessions is determined via a formula using field goal and free throw attempts, offensive rebounds, assists and turnovers. The higher the number, the more prevalent a player is (good or bad) in a team's offensive outcome. As you would expect, someone like Kim English has a high Usage%, while Steve Moore has an extremely low one.
Floor%: Via Basketball-Reference.com: Floor % answers the question, "when Player X uses a possession, what is the probability that his team scores at least 1 point?". The higher the Floor%, the more frequently the team probably scores when the given player is involved.
Touches/Possession: Using field goal attempts, free throw attempts, assists and turnovers, Touches attempt to estimate "the number of times a player touched the ball in an attacking position on the floor." Take the estimated touches and divide it by the estimated number of possessions for which a player was on the court, and you get a rough idea of how many times a player touched the ball in a given possession. For point guards, you'll see the number in the 3-4 range. For shooting guards and wings, 2-3. For Steve Moore, 1.30. You get the idea.
Anyway, using the Touches figure, we can estimate the percentage of time a player "in an attacking position" passes, shoots, turns the ball over, or gets fouled.
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So, using your metaphor...
The Michael Dixon flagrant is the new Marcus Denmon intentional.
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yes!!!!!!! KC radio!
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by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 31, 2012 9:47 AM CST up reply actions
Are you going to be on w/the Beaker Fescoe? Heard him this morning say that kU fans don’t talk junk before the games because they don’t have to. I’ve heard BS in my lifetime but this is up near the top of my BS list
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by 65 Toss Power Trap83 on Jan 31, 2012 9:49 AM CST up reply actions
haha
He’s on with Danny Parkins, whos from chicago so he doesnt really have a dog in the ku-mu fight.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 31, 2012 9:50 AM CST up reply actions
I figured he was done by now but I work in a cave so that means no radio for me.
On top of that I can’t access the online stream here either. Parkins is alright though from what I have heard
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by 65 Toss Power Trap83 on Jan 31, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions
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regarding bracketology
if it’s coming in later in the week, I vote hold off until Monday, since saturday’s game could have major implications.
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by MizzouCus on Jan 31, 2012 9:57 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
Agreed.
Waiting until after the KU game makes the most sense.
"Gentlemen, this is a football."-Vince Lombardi
"Slow down coach, you're going too fast."-Max McGee
Agreed that waiting until Monday makes the most sense
therefore, I vote for Saturday right before the game.
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He said earlier in the week it was today, right?
There’s big games every week from here on out, I don’t know if it’s worth rearranging Bill’s extremely light workload to see if we’re a 2 seed now v. a 1, 2, or 3 seed on Monday.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Jan 31, 2012 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
I assume that's...
extremely light workload
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We all saw the picture last night
He’s about 2 months away from letting his kid do the work for him.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Jan 31, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
has he given the kid Play-Skol's "My First Abacus" yet?
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I thought the perimeter defense was good on Brown...
But don’t you feel that Mizzou was almost daring Texas to shoot threes with anyone other than Brown. How many open looks did they get that they just wouldn’t shoot.
That's a great gameplan then
Haith and staff must have thought that is the best way to neutralize them. 2 for 12 on 3’s for the day means they were probably right. And a 2 point % under 50.
I'm I reading something wrong
or did Mike Dixon actually get above Pass above 55?
Two things
On your checklist – Dixon’s pass percentage should be (Yes). You had the number right (3 of 7).
I saw at one point in the first half Marcus passed up an open three after a shot fake to pass the ball to Flip who had to jack up a prayer to avoid a shot clock violation. As Marcus went by the bench in the defensive half, Haith was screaming at him to “Shoot the F…king Ball!”. At least that’s what I read on his lips.
Good catch
A late night and early morning for Bill, obviously.
Same here...
They cut to Haith and what I saw him say was “I don’t care how many shots you miss. Shoot the F…ing ball!” Marcus has to love the confidence he still has in him.
by tigers-royals on Jan 31, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
It's blowing my mind that Texas coaches, players, and fans think there should have
been a foul called on the last possession of the game. Like someone said last night, if that was a foul, each team should have taken 40+ FT’s last night.
A call there would have been the definition of referees who make themselves the story. Watching the replay, I didn’t see anything close to a definitive foul. And you…just…don’t…call a foul in that situation without it being blatantly obvious.
More Texas spilt milk.
Yeah...both teams made INFINITELY more contact than that on shots over the course of a game...
…it was incredibly minimal on that last shot.
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More than anything, I cannot believe that a conference official came out publicly immediately after the game and said that it was a fould
OH wait! I can believe that, freaking Big12
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by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 31, 2012 10:29 AM CST up reply actions
Did he, though?
It was basically Barnes saying “Yeah, _ told me it was a foul.” Still embarrassing, but 1% less so…
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It may have just been Barnes
I saw a tweet last night saying the official came right out and said it was a foul and I always believe twitter.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 31, 2012 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
True.
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yep, sure the officials on the floor
love Mr. Shaw sharing that nugget. I wonder if it was a comment that he never intended to have plastered all over the TX media.
And as was said above, you don’t get that call in that situation. If you get hammered, sure, but that was far, far from being hammered.
Enjoyed the outright whining in the Austin paper about the non-call. You would think folks who cover basketball would be smarter than trying to argue about a single call/non-call deciding a game. Unless of course it is something brutal like the Syracuse/WVU non-goaltending call.
Am a bit concerned about the fatigue factor- the lack of arc in Marcus’s shot makes me wonder if his legs are not there right now. I hope they make a concious effort over the next few weeks to get lots of rest, especially take advantage of time between Monday and Sat. this week.
Great win- the icewater in Mike’s veins is impressive. Wonderful example of ‘go on to the next play’.
What about the end of the game clothesline on Denmon?
I’m sure that was okay.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 31, 2012 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
and I also think we didn't get at least one charge
and one of the charge calls against us was crap- the player was moving sideways.
But I don’t bitch about all that, because it happens, and more or less equals out in the long term. But it’s not like UT fans are the most BBall saavy.
Great point
Each team plays 9 home and 9 away games. Home teams get more calls, away teams don’t. Bad calls both ways.
It evens out in the end. These are facts.
I thought I read
Denmon was still having the sniffles. I wonder if it is making the rounds (Steve?). It could explain that lack of energy and legs.
I’m just waiting for that game that Marcus is on fire and outscores/outhussles the other team all by himself.
by blackgoldorange on Jan 31, 2012 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
Totally agree
I watched the replay almost 10 times looking for something. Even took off my homer glasses (which really aren’t that rosy to begin with). Just didn’t see it. And for the supervisor of officials to allegedly say that … well, I’m no conspiracy theorist, but that’s Neinas-level sour grapes.
Take what I say in a different way and it's easy to see that this is all confusion.
by SiberianKhatru on Jan 31, 2012 10:30 AM CST up reply actions
This just in from the Commissioner's desk...
The Big 12 Conference has made the decision to update the Big 12 standings. They should now read:
Kansas 7-1
Missouri 7-2*
Baylor 6-2
Texas 6-3**
Iowa State 5-3
We wish all of our conference members the best of luck going forward.
*Missouri received the benefit of a referee who clearly does not know the rules of basketball. He has been transferred to the Mountain West Conference, also known as the Big 12’s feeder league. If Missouri should finish in a tie with any conference member other than Texas A&M at the end of the season, they will lose said tiebreaker.
**It has come to our attention that Texas is 0-6 in close games in conference this year. Since research has proven that luck does not reflect how good (or bad) a team is, we have influenced Texas’ record to show that they are clearly better than their record. We hope that the NCAA tournament selection committee honors these changes, and if they don’t, we’ll put Chip Brown on their trail to expose what really occurs during Championship Week behind closed doors.
by CBonerfied on Jan 31, 2012 10:50 AM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Not enough typo's
Otherwise I would have thought this was an actual release.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 31, 2012 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
Hey....I'm offended about the Mountain West remark. I'm a MWC official!
Granted, I’m a swimming official, but still…..we’re far from a feeder league. Just ask TCU….oh, never mind.
:)
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are you really a swimming official?
if so, what exactly do you judge? False starts I assume. Do you determine who touched 1st or is that electronic? Do you make sure that people are doing the stroke correctly?
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no, that last one is billy squire's job.
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by threadkiller on Jan 31, 2012 11:37 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I suspect you just showed your age
Take what I say in a different way and it's easy to see that this is all confusion.
by SiberianKhatru on Jan 31, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
Yes, I'm really a swimming official...USA Swimming, NCAA, HS, etc.
Basically judge all of the above depending on what position I’m working. As a Starter, we insure a fair start for the athletes, watching for false starts which are dually confirmed with Referee. As a Referee, in charge of the entire competition, working with Starter and the Stroke/Turn Officials to assure that all swims are fairly competed and judged. As a Stroke/Turn judge, watch the individual athletes to make sure their stroke, turn, touches, finishes, relay takeoffs, etc. conform with the rules.
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Also, timing and scoring are done electronically, but we use "timers" with
stopwatches as backup in case the electronic system fails for some reason.
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interesting
are the pools meters or yards?
How fast are people going in a 100 free?
Have you ever officiated an event that had an Olympic swimmer?
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Depending on the meet, can be either Meters or Yards.
NCAA and HS swims in yards. USA Swimming is 50-meter pools for championships, but a lot of local meets during winter are in yards since most indoor pools are 25-yard rather than 50-meter pools.
As for the 100 Free (meters), at Nationals in Atlanta in December, at which I was a Starter, winning time in the Womens 100 Free was 54.82, and the Men’s winner went 48.33. World Records in those events are 52.07 for the Women and 46.91 for the Men.
And, yes, I’ve officiated many meets/events in which there were numerous Olympians, both from the USA and internationally. Guess I probably know 50+ members of past USA Olympic teams…first name basis, had/have phone numbers, Facebook friends, etc…..plus another 15-20 international athletes. I’ve been doing this for 20 plus years, so have had a lot of opportunities.
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by OKCTiger on Jan 31, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
You were the one who leaked the Phelps bong pics!!
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Damn! Roasted!
Michael will never speak to me again. :(
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Thanks. He told me this during the carriage ride to the theater.
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Impossible. They don't care about us at all. They might not even show up for the game this weekend, that's how little they care.
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Dear Bill C.
Thank you for all the hard work you and your compatriots put into this blog, esp. since I don’t pay a nickel for it.
So regarding bracketology… I say take a break, catch up on whatever you need to do, and do it next week.
Thank you and I look forward to seeing Rally Baby go on an epic win streak.
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by Mac6uffin on Jan 31, 2012 10:30 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
Plus
know who I thought had a really bad game last night? Steve Moore. He’s been so steady this year that last night was a surprise.
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yep, looked like Steve circa last year
I would say he is also suffering from the fatigue factor, but he hasn’t been playing the much. I do question his conditioning at times- he has come a long way, but he seems to get gassed awfully quick at times.
He also took a good shot to his dome off the floor early on last night
I’m surprised he came back in as quick as he did after that play.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 31, 2012 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
he got hit in the head again after that when he was trying to get the ball
for a sideline pass in. still got 3 blocks, nice to have that from someone.
Except he took a couple of charges
He deserves a pass for last night after the headshot
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He wasn't playing good before that either
but after I’ll give him a pass.
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I look forward...
… to Rally Baby taking the rest of the year off as Mizzou never trails again.
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by RPT on Jan 31, 2012 10:50 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Kansas wouldn't care, they hate babies
but, I’m sure all our other opponents would be willing to help out to keep a poor infant from having to work.
Rational Mizzou Talk, whether you like us or not.
That's because jayhawks don't make babies
They have rotten eggs.
by McZou on Jan 31, 2012 1:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
The feeling I'm starting to get (and struggling to supress)
is that we’re at the tail end of our cold spell, and would there be a more EPIC way to end it than for Marcus to find his 3, GOOD Flip to be ALL over the place in ways that only GOOD Flip can be, and Cardo to go back to shooting 142%, and STEEEEEEVE to have a non-con style STEEEEVE performance….all when we face kU at home for the last time in the foreseeable future, in a battle of top-10 teams, that could very well determine the fate of the b12 Championship ON OUR WAY OUT THE DOOR.
by DC_Tiger on Jan 31, 2012 10:56 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
I have a hunch that...
Flip and Dixon are going to TERRORIZE Point Plankn’ on Saturday night. When Taylor is bad, he is BAD. A turnover machine. That’s the key to the game right there. Robinson and Withey could scorch our Earth, but if they can’t get the ball because Flip stole it, it will be kinda hard for them to score.
If Mizzou makes 40 percent of their 3’s and shoots over 50 from the field, we’ll win by 10+.
i vote wait for next monday.
yours coming out with lunardi’s, etc. really makes for a better monday than otherwise.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 31, 2012 11:01 AM CST reply actions
So this means it's hate week now, right?
Penultimate hate week.
by rg643 on Jan 31, 2012 11:03 AM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
threads
After the game I read through some BON and our own game threads. We are much like them. I read alot of wait til next year and our coach sucks. On our side I saw more flipping than a politician. Dixson is god and then he’s an idiot. Denmon should stop shooting. I take it most fans aren’t motivational speakers and hope they don’t work the 411 or crisis hotline. Anyway, thank goodness we have a team that plays probably the most entertaining and intelligent basketball in the game today. Enjoy them, they are special.
PS…it says a lot about both men that DGB is following Kimmy on twitter.
by Earl Billings on Jan 31, 2012 11:03 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Why do you care who works 411?
Something about our fans leads you to believe they would give out incorrect phone numbers? Furthermore, is 411 even a thing anymore?
i thought 411 was just information.
Lamentations 3:22-23
by threadkiller on Jan 31, 2012 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
when you control the mail, you control . . . information!
/newman
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
by mizzou2396 on Jan 31, 2012 11:43 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
nobody's ever broken the 50% barrier!!!
Lamentations 3:22-23
by threadkiller on Jan 31, 2012 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
Why does the dummy have a bucket on its head?
by HHKB Chris on Jan 31, 2012 11:46 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
fans are a fickle bunch
even those rooted in rationale can lose their minds when the game is coming down to the wire. I think that is a testament to how great these kids are that they can handle their business on the court with more composure than a vast majority of the older folks watching them.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
i reccomend your d*ck headedness
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 31, 2012 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
no prob
I was just excited that someone actually responded to something I wrote…albeit d***ish:}
who is dixson anyway
I really should proofread my infrequent poost
by Earl Billings on Jan 31, 2012 11:25 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
that is pretty remarkable right there
a little comedic genius.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
by mizzou2396 on Jan 31, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Pop quiz, with Tuesday Truths just out.
Every team in the conference is between 65 and 68 possessions per game. Where do you think Mizzou ranks in terms of pace?
by Transmogrified Tiger on Jan 31, 2012 11:26 AM CST reply actions
dead last!
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 31, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
Here's the supposed game-changer
What say you, Mizzou fans?

Take what I say in a different way and it's easy to see that this is all confusion.
by SiberianKhatru on Jan 31, 2012 11:39 AM CST reply actions
It's pretty simple.
Thats a judgement clal by the ref. Was there contact? Yes. Is there contact on almost every play including about 30 others last night that wern’t called both ways? Yes. A bump on the off shooting hand is very rarely called and it would have been completely inconsistent with how the game was called last night. It’s one of those where either way some team is going to be griping. Facts are, if teams don’t want to be in that situation, don’t be trailing at the end of the game.
Annoying You Since 1986
by MUTIGERS86 on Jan 31, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions 7 recs
Pretty much my take, too
Take what I say in a different way and it's easy to see that this is all confusion.
by SiberianKhatru on Jan 31, 2012 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
Watching the replay,
it also seems that this was either part of a head fake, or at the very beginning of his shooting motion. When he actually goes up and releases the ball, Pressey backs off and there is some separation.
Not to say it couldn’t be called a foul, but there is some danger overreacting to a split-second capture that, among other things, does not even show the players’ feet. I thought it was the kind of contact that rarely gets called in that situation, and was consistently not called last night.
It makes the win feel that much better to me.
The Longhorns are going to find something to blame each and every loss on instead of themselves. To the biggest crybabies of that group, I hope they plaster that picture around everywhere and have a miserable day today thinking about it.
Yep, there is no sense in focusing on that play
I give Bevo credit for fighting back and taking the lead; but they dug themselves in a hole before the come back. Not that individual plays don’t matter…
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
Other than the UCF takedown of Denmon at the final buzzer
I have alot of respect for that Longhorn team and the tough way they competed in that game. Its just the whining from staff and fans after any loss that I like to take a poke at now and then.
It was pretty cool what they did for Haith at the start of the game
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
Yep, just so long as "you" doesn't refer to "me."
Take what I say in a different way and it's easy to see that this is all confusion.
by SiberianKhatru on Jan 31, 2012 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
it doesn't refer to me
/fun with pronouns
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
That's fairly damning
but those are the breaks.
Another theory: any basketball fan will acknowledge that make-up calls are a reality. Too much visual evidence in every single game to dispute the point. The officials might have felt it was Mizzou’s turn after missing a call on the other end. In that sense, it’s even more true that it all works out in the end.
This is also a snapshot in a shot that took all of .5 seconds to take.
Taking this out of context doesnt show much. He could have just brushed his arm or gone on and punched him in the nards. You can’t tell either of those from this picture.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 31, 2012 11:48 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Right
In the context of the play, Pressey did very little to alter the shot.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Jan 31, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
Exactly
The still shot makes it look like Matt’s grabbing him. But if you watch the tape, you can’t notice it (at least I didn’t after several viewings). It had to be a light brush. You won’t see hardly any refs call that in that situation.
Take what I say in a different way and it's easy to see that this is all confusion.
by SiberianKhatru on Jan 31, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
Its all about context

"Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day" - Harry S Truman
by Cougar9001 on Jan 31, 2012 11:55 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
They put the freaking Longhorn logo on their basketballs?
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
Pretty sure we do the same, with our logo of course
by Transmogrified Tiger on Jan 31, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
Actually, the balls are provided by the conference
They all look like that
by Damnatio Memoriae on Jan 31, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions 7 recs
Small things like that
can affect how the ball feels while dribbling or shooting. I’m surprised this is standard, let alone legal, in the NCAA.
Its not any worse than using a completely different type of ball at every away game.
Jailhouse Boy Green at your service.
by mizzou_rah11 on Jan 31, 2012 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
From that angle, there certainly appears to be contact on that play
But, at live speed, I certainly didn’t see any reason to call a foul.
I am a big fan of “a foul is a foul whether it is made with 10 minutes left in a blowout or the last second of a tie game”, but let’s be realistic. If you’re going to call a foul with almost no time left on the clock, it needs to be pretty clear that it’s a foul. Not something that shows up in a still frame, but something that is obvious at live speed.
Rational Mizzou Talk, whether you like us or not.
Seth Davis' article pinpointing what contenders are lacking to send them over the top
and picking one player from another team to fill that void came out today. It’s usually a fairly entertaining read.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/seth_davis/01/30/hoop.thoughts/1.html
Reading about Moser’s skill set, who does he remind you of? And does it give you a little bit of a sad face?
Marquette's Missing Piece
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/seth_davis/01/30/hoop.thoughts/index.html#ixzz1l4BvCTYiNew Mexico’s senior Drew Gordon is the nation’s 11th-leading rebounder (10.7 per game) and is shooting 73.6 percent from the free-throw line.
I read this as “Drew Gooden”, like the first 6 times I read it.
Rational Mizzou Talk, whether you like us or not.
2 things
Tried posting this yesterday, but dont think it went through.
1. Matt Pressey’s doppleganger is Eddie Griffin.
2. Every time this team fouls, I panic, which I realize is insane. We are so short depth-wise, I cannot control this emotion. I nearly have a heart attack if we have more than two players with three fouls.
by JoeyJoeJoeJuniorShabadoo on Jan 31, 2012 12:14 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
And cocaine. Winning and cocaine
And pornstars. Winning, cocaine and pornstars.
Now there’s a trifecta.
by Damnatio Memoriae on Jan 31, 2012 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Love that Flip is regularly hitting shots now
Defenders don’t know whether to guard the shot or look for the pass. Makes him all the more dangerous.
That delayed floater is a pretty sweet move when
the BIG guarding ’Cardo or Steeeve actually keep up with the break to the glass…
of course Dixons’ lob pass to the baseline looked pretty a couple of times last night too when that happened also.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 31, 2012 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
I thought the post game interview with Dixon by that lady reporter was funny
“I know you don’t like to be called a spark plug but could you tell us how you were just like a spark plug…?”
Gotta love ESPN reporters. Going to force you to conform.
by McZou on Jan 31, 2012 1:37 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I like how he stared right at the camera and smiled. I love Dixon.
My daughter tells me it sounds very odd when I say it out loud though.
You didn't know that was Holly Rowe?
She’s the one who hip-chicked (pun intended) the other reporter out of Brady Hoke’s grill. I am so shocked there was not a catfight right there. Brent and the General LOVED it and talk about it all the time on the air. I thought her postgame questions were quite horrible.
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
Rocky Balboa once told me, "Nothing is real if you don't believe in who you are."
Hollys looking a bit rough these days
’ol girl needs to maybe go back into the studio or something.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 31, 2012 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
looked like she'd dropped some pounds to me.
looking better than ever, imo.
Lamentations 3:22-23
by threadkiller on Jan 31, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
I love your post game analysis, Bill.
It’s nice to refer to hear when talking to friends offline. For example, I didn’t think English saw much, if any bench time the entire game.
by McZou on Jan 31, 2012 2:13 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Doing some Kenpom surfing out of boredom at work
Guess who is in the top 10 in America in assist rate?
The original MP3…you know, CP3’s cousin. Miggy is having a very, very good year for a very bad team in East Carolina. 16.4 PPG, 5.5 APG, 2.4 turnovers/GM, 38% from 3.
Tyler Stone: 15 PPG, 7.3 RPG, top 60 in Kenpom for Def Rebound %.
Both guys are their teams’ top scorers. Wish them well…
yeah, methinks stone would have had a spot on this team.
unfortunately, we needed the scholarship last year.
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 31, 2012 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
oh yeah that.
mitchell REALLY would have had a spot on this team.
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 31, 2012 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
I'm a big fan of Miguel Paul.
I know a ton of people here don’t seem too fond of him, but I think he was pretty cool. Then again, if we had Paul or Tyler Stone then we wouldn’t have Matt Pressey or Ricardo Ratliffe. Still, cool guys. Feel bad for Stone because he essentially got kicked out.
Me too
What sucks pretty badly? Underwood, Kreklow, and Green transferring out also. Five defections that would have been upperclassmen at this juncture.
Kreklow wouldn't have allowed them to slow the game down last night.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English

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