Mizzou Links, 1-5-12
by Bill C. on Jan 5, 2012 5:43 AM CST
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Mizzou Basketball Links
- Kimmeh
The Trib: Kim English plays like new manBefore this season, I thought we had seen the best of English as a freshman in the first two rounds of the NCAA Tournament. If he and Marcus Denmon were still considered Missouri’s co-stars by the national media, it was based more on English’s quotability and lively Twitter feed than his production. Denmon was the guy who showed up every night last season and took the Tigers as far as he could drag them.
The point was driven home over the summer when both were invited to try out for the World University Games team but only Denmon made the U.S. squad.
This season, though, they have been equals. Denmon averages three more points than English and is shooting 50 percent from the field and 45 percent from 3-point range. They form a potent combination outside the 3-point arc, daring opponents to leave them when point guards Phil Pressey and Mike Dixon drive to the basket.
- Oh NOW You Come Around...
MUtigers.com: Phil Pressey Named One of 20 Finalists for Cousy AwardPressey has arguably been the Big 12's top point guard all season long as he and Baylor's Pierre Jackson are the only two Big 12 student-athletes to appear on the list of 20. The Tiger sophomore is averaging a Big 12-best 6.1 assists per game while leading the league in assist-turnover ratio at 2.93. Not only that, but Pressey is active on the defensive end as he leads the Big 12 in steals with 30, averaging a league-high 2.14 per game. He is also averaging 9.4 points and 3.0 rebounds per game. [...]
This list of finalists will be narrowed down to a final 10 by February 1st, and final five by March 1st. A premier Selection Committee will be appointed by the Hall of Fame to review the final five candidates in contention for the nation's top collegiate point guard award. These Hall of Fame committees are made up of top college basketball personnel including media members, head coaches, Sports Information Directors and Hall of Famers. The winner of the 2012 Bob Cousy Award will be presented at the Hall of Fame's Class Announcement on Championship Monday in New Orleans as part of NCAA Final Four weekend. - Road Games, Ahoy
Fox Sports MW: Tigers are ready to take their show on the road - (Whistling)
The Missourian: Recent victories keep Missouri, three others on list of undefeated teams - Dickie V Loves Mizzou
ESPN.com: Dick Vitale picks his top midseason awards candidates
Mizzou Football Links
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ESPN.com (Aaron Schatz, $): The five most underrated players of the 2011 NFL seasonAtlanta's weakside linebacker, Sean Weatherspoon really blossomed in his second season. Weatherspoon was involved in 16 percent of Atlanta's total defensive plays (tackles or assists), which was the third-highest figure for an outside linebacker behind Carolina's James Anderson and Minnesota's Chad Greenway. Weatherspoon was particularly strong when it came to stopping the run, and he made his average tackle on run plays after a gain of just 2 yards -- ranked second among 4-3 outside linebackers. Weatherspoon was also part of a Falcons linebacker group that played excellent pass defense. The Falcons ranked first in the league in DVOA against tight ends and seventh in DVOA against running backs as receivers.
- Probably Not His Last Award
SB Nation KC: Aldon Smith Earns ESPN's NFL Defensive Rookie Of The Year Award
Other Football Links
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Smart Football: Bill Walsh and Joe Montana on the fundamentals of quarterbacking - SI.com (Stewart Mandel): Rose, Fiesta shootouts renew anti-rematch LSU-Alabama talk
SEC
- SimmonsField.com: SEC Dixie-nary: U is for Umpires
Other Mizzou Links
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MUtigers.com: Mizzou Baseball PA Tryouts to be Held Jan. 17th, 19th - Mizzou Women's Basketball
MUtigers.com: Tigers Overwhelmed by Lady Bears
The Missourian: Missouri falls at No. 1 Baylor
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No Big XII basketball links?
Just curious. kU either looked pretty good last night, or KSU looked pretty bad. Especially early!
"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."
If its not posted on Mizzou Links
it didn’t happen.
You either die a Tiger, or you live long enough to see yourself become a Jayhawk.
by Fullback U on Jan 5, 2012 6:41 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Anything from over there is just dust in the wind
by McZou on Jan 5, 2012 7:04 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
kU can't look too good while turning the ball over 20times...
8 coming from their PG Turnover Taylor. I’ll give them credit for playing good d in the first half but overall I thought KSU played pretty bad. Couple young players got lost in the atmosphere of playing at kU
You can't be fat and fast, too; so lift, run, diet and work.
Hank Stram
"Winning isn't everything, but it beats anything that comes in second."
--Paul "Bear" Bryant
by 65 Toss Power Trap83 on Jan 5, 2012 7:11 AM CST up reply actions
The "atmosphere" of playing at kU is why I stopped watching around 13 min into the game
A kU player grabbed an offensive rebound off of a 3 point attempt, and was double teamed near the free throw line. He then took one small step, then two huge (covering about 6-7 feet) steps before dribbling once and making a 5 foot shot. I yelled WTF and promptly turned to the bowl game.
"Let schoolmasters puzzle their brain, With grammar, and nonsense, and learning; Good liquor, I stoutly maintain, Gives genius a better discerning." – Oliver Goldsmith
KSU played horrifically.
Their defense was pathetic and ku still only scored 65 on them in afh. ku got all the calls as mentioned above, dominated the boards…kstate shot +/-30% from the floor. I’ve never felt better about the Tigers chances in the big 12 this year, except that game in lawrence against the chickenhawks and their zebras.
Turnover Taylor cleared the ball above his shoulders and clocked the Stradling kid on top of his head with an elbow and they called a foul on Stradling…a new rule prohibits contact when clearing that high by the ball handleer so Reed Gettys wouldn’t shut up about this the rest of the game. The refs even stopped play to look at what happened on the video monitors and didn’t change their call. Pathetic.
Yeah
I think barring a massive COTG-induced brain fart, we should be golden at home excapt maybe against Baylor. I don’t think Texas or A&M will put up much of a fight anywhere. I think our most likely losses are @Kansas, @Baylor, and @Hexagon. The two Kansas teams always get a strong home court advantage and I think Baylor just matches up too well for Mizzou to beat them.
We are DAVIDSON City!
THE HEXAGON OF HATE
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 5, 2012 11:16 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
THE DODECAHEDRON OF DOOM!!!
Upholding fine Mizzou traditions in Maryland.
MvP, RoC official Nemesis
by Ausgiano on Jan 5, 2012 11:18 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
THE POLYGON OF PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVENESS
We are DAVIDSON City!
by Gaknar on Jan 5, 2012 11:21 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Shouldn't that be in all lower-case italics?
by Babbalynski on Jan 5, 2012 11:30 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The Rombus of Respite.
Though I think I’ve typed that one out before.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 5, 2012 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
There are times I completely ignore sarcasm.
This is one of them.
by Babbalynski on Jan 5, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I'd bet my house we won't lose at Mizzou Arena this year.
We shoot too well. Defend too well. Our boys play so good on that floor…I just don’t see it happening.
Now on the road. I’ve seen too many zebras(big12) call so much crap against the visiting teams in the last few years that the road team has to play 10-12 points better than the home team to win a game by 1 point. So if we can get by dropping 3 road games like you say we’ll take the crown easily. But whatever we loose on the road will be good enough to take the regular season championship.
the home court zebras
would also be the reason we stay undefeated, a team would have to outplay us by 10-12 points.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
Agreed.
We used to get sooooo screwed in Hearnes then about the time the new area was built some hidden, dark ops, mandate came down from big12 corporate that instructed all refs to help the home team any way you can, and poof. Conference road games can no longer be won unless you just pile drive the home team into the hardwood.
KU fan here
The hating on the refs is pretty laughable for a game in which KU was playing the most penalized team in the conference but got whistled for more fouls (19 to 15). Also, the margin of victory was 18 points. You really think that the refs made a difference in the outcome.
As for the “new rule” that prohibits contact with an elbow above the shoulders, the rule was in place last season and was a point of emphasis last season. One of four points of emphasis this season is:
Flagrant 1 or Flagrant 2 Fouls for Elbow Contact
Officials are reminded that there can be incidental contact with the elbow above
or below the shoulders; swinging of the elbow is required for the foul to be
classified as a flagrant 1 or 2 foul. Some incidental contact is being penalized
improperly.
http://www.arbitersports.com/Groups/104884/Library/files/NCAA%20Basketball%20Rules.pdf#page=15
If the refs stop play and confer and still disagree with you, you might check with a higher authority than Reid Gettys before deciding that they’re wrong and you’re right.
I promised I would start labelling my posts
to avoid confusion and, in this case, so people wouldn’t be subjected to unwanted information.
by KSinDC on Jan 5, 2012 1:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Field...
that deserved at least one rec
You can't be fat and fast, too; so lift, run, diet and work.
Hank Stram
"Winning isn't everything, but it beats anything that comes in second."
--Paul "Bear" Bryant
by 65 Toss Power Trap83 on Jan 5, 2012 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
You know that everyone gets a home court advantage from the refs in the Big XII
Even Mizzou benefits. It’s the nature of the beast, and to imply that Kansas doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt at home is just silly.
We are DAVIDSON City!
by Gaknar on Jan 5, 2012 1:07 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes. Yes it is.
"KU, you're nothing to me now. You're not a rival, you're not a friend. I don't want to know you or what you do."
Home court advantage is worth, what, 3-4 points?
And there are several factors at work, including ability to communicate (see Frank Martin talking to the refs saying “I can’t hear you” early in last night’s game), players getting sped up or psyched out, and refereeing. I don’t know how to weight those factors, but say they’re worth one point apiece per game. That’s the average. There are games where I think home-court officiating helps the home team a lot, but that also means that there have to be games where home-court officiating is totally absent if it all averages out to one point a game. I think last night’s game was one of the latter examples.
Nice low-balling there
Home court advantage is huge. When the crowd gets rowdy, the refs tend to favor the home team. This is true for all sports, but particularly in basketball because of the way the game is structured. Just look at the Big XII the past few years. I think it was maybe two years ago where for the first couple of weeks, no home team lost.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
Is this based on some sort of study you've done?
Because Vegas and KenPom both calculate it based on actual data. I don’t have a kenpom subscription so I can’t check the value right now, but maybe Bill C can give us the value for this year. It’s usually right around 3.5 points.
The average for every team? Sure.
The average for a nationally-known, Final 4 or bust each year, conference championship team?
I bet it’s slightly more than the average.
Proud Meth Aggie since 2011.
I'm not hate'n on the refs or anyone just calling it like it is.
Fouls are not the only calls that were being overlooks (reference the mass exodus on the non travel call noted above)
Sure the cumulative affect of the BS calls are going to affect the visiting team just like it affected some indifferent fans to turn the channel. Did they make a difference in the outcome? No one will ever know will they? The margin of victory would certainly be closer though.
Thanks for the info on the “new rule”. Regarding the ref’s meeting, considering the home court edict, maybe it went like this:
Ref1: “We better go look at that on the monitor.”
Ref2: “Ok….Yep, TOT caught him pretty good with the elbow, I need to switch my call to a foul on TOT.”
Ref3: “You can do that, we’re in AFH. ku has to keep the benefit on that call.”
Ref1: “Oh Shit, he’s right. Let’s play on. Foul on the skinny white kid from k state.”
(TOT is Turnover Taylor)
I hold Reid Gettys’ opinion just about high enough to piss on it. I can barely stand listening to him so don’t think I’m saying all of this because of him. I’m just pointing out that he wouldn’t shut his trap about it for 30 minutes after it happened.
ku definitely benefits the most from this horse-shit big12 BB home court advantage edict the refs call. If you haven’t recognized it through your seven year romp on the rest of the big 12 you will this year cause ku is not going to finish in the top 2.
by B_W on Jan 5, 2012 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
From your lips to Jack Harry's ears
I wish all these guarantees about Big 12 order of finish were worth something.
And for what it’s worth, I don’t dispute that officiating is part of the huge home court advantage (probably worth 7 or 8 points, considering Mac6uffin’s point above) that AFH provides. I just dispute that officiating provided a net benefit to KU last night. You’re a MU fan so calls that benefit KU stand out to you. I’m a KU fan so calls that benefit KSU stand out to me. But the numbers aren’t biased. KSU is the most penalized team in the conference and they were playing catch up at the end, and yet we got called for more fouls. To me, that creates a pretty strong presumption that we weren’t being helped by the refs.
If I know the refs names, it's usually because I got angry enough at them to remember it
And I certainly know John Higgins name. He was the only one of the three doing the game last night that I recognized.
But he doesn’t really stand out from the other refs for me in any way.
The margin last night was large enough that it wouldn't have mattered
But that’s not the issue. The issue is that the home team gets a benefit and the Jayhawks benefit as much if not more than other teams in the conference. All you have to do is go back and watch the Flying Elbow Brothers in action at AFH to see that.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
I agree that KU has the biggest Home Field Advantage in the conference, maybe the country
And I agree that home-town officiating is part of that.
But that’s on average. The amount of the advantage and the degree to which officiating contributes vary game to game, and last night, although I thought the home court advantage was there (great crowd considering the students were out), I don’t think officiating was part of it.
That's ok ksindc.
It’s perfectly normal of you and any other ku fan to say that….it’s ok.
by B_W on Jan 5, 2012 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
On average FOR THE ENTIRE NCAA
Schools like Kansas, Kentucky or Duke are going to consistently have higher home court advantages than the average. Favorable calls are a part of that.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
That's what I said at 4:43 above
And all I’m saying here is that it’s not some fixed property that works the same in every game. Some games the advantage is bigger; some it’s smaller. Some games the officiating is a bigger component; some games it’s a smaller component.
It’s not as though every game at Allen Field House starts off with KU up 6 and 3 fouls on the other team. These things vary game to game.
I'll admit I wasn't watching super close last night.
MU was not playing after all. I will stand by my point that k-state played like shit though. I am not surprised at all that ku was whistled for more fouls. They were actually trying last night. I swear, on multiple occasions, k-state’s perimeter defense was going through the motions. No tough d, AT ALL. Sounds like Frank Martin has some young kids that aren’t up to snuff yet by his talk this morning.
If k-state plays like that on our home court, MU will win by 40 while scoring 90 points.
Watch what you say about Jack Harry now!
by B_W on Jan 5, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
I think the crowd rattled Martin, so I'm sure it rattled his players.
I also think that they had no idea how to respond to KU spreading the floor in order to counter K-State’s help defense.
That plus KU being the better team (if you believe the computers) was enough for a comfortable win.
I couldn’t tell that the k-state players had ever heard of the help defense concept last night, let alone practice it. I guess i’m beating a dead horse with this now…
by B_W on Jan 5, 2012 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
They had among the very best 2-pt FG defense in the country coming in
And they don’t have great big men. They’ve accomplished that by aggressively helping in the interior.
KU went to a spread-out offense that neutralized their ability to do that so that the guards would have bigger driving lanes and Robinson would have more time to work 1 on 1. It did cause some increase in turnovers because the passes were longer, but overall, I think it was a big success. I think K-State expected us to either try to force the ball inside and let Robinson take on the double teams or shoot over the top like most teams have done this year, but we didn’t. K-State didn’t seem to know how to respond to our strategy, and the noise level in AFH certainly didn’t help them communicate on defense while they were out there.
And in six months...
It won’t be a Big 12 blog either.
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by RPT on Jan 5, 2012 9:14 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
operative phrase
…in six months…
I will go on assuming this was an oversight by an overtired Bill C.
"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."
On the Baylor win last night, if Griner was a man, I would say "Griner is a beast"
But since I’m equal opportunity advocate and not sexist….Griner is a BEAST!
by McZou on Jan 5, 2012 7:19 AM CST via mobile reply actions
If Griner is a beast
And Baylor are the Bears, does that put another talley in the Bear vs. Shark debate?
You either die a Tiger, or you live long enough to see yourself become a Jayhawk.
No
They made the Lady Tigers look like cupcakes. I like the Lady Tigers, therefore I like cupcakes. Cupcakes being mini cakes and cakes get soggy in water, which makes them fall apart. So Bears beat Sharks and Cakes beat Pies.
by McZou on Jan 5, 2012 9:55 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
You got that all right except the cake and pie part.
That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!
by drewder on Jan 5, 2012 9:58 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I make sure to recheck the page
To find comments like this.
You either die a Tiger, or you live long enough to see yourself become a Jayhawk.
The beaker cop in my town
made it a point to come into my classroom and tell me that the tigers first loss will be at the hands of them….
then he snuck in my room at lunch and filled my mizzou santa hat with chickenhawk pencils for the kids… so afterwards we just broke them all and are gonna dump them all over his squad car when we can..
Don't be mad at him...
…he just told you he thinks Mizzou is going to go undefeated until either February 4 or February 25!
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That would certainly go a long way towards a conference championship.
This would include road wins at Baylor and K-state and Texas. Yeah!
That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!
My thoughts exactly.
Maybe kU will still be undefeated by then. Oh, wait. I forgot about all those quality losses.
"KU, you're nothing to me now. You're not a rival, you're not a friend. I don't want to know you or what you do."
Ugh - a Beaker cop
Nightmare.
I was walking back to my office from the gym yesterday afternoon when some lady who was only checking the traffic coming the other way nearly ran me over. Luckily I stepped back and kind of gave her the WTF hands? She GLARED at me. As she turned, I saw the Beaker plates. I then spit on her car & yelled profanities at her.
I know some of you don’t feel as strongly about them as I do but I HATE THEM!
by tigers and chiefs fan on Jan 5, 2012 9:04 AM CST up reply actions 6 recs
We rented a van for a long family trip
and the only one available had Kansas plates. I was pretty furious about it and debated for a discount. The guy flat out told me, where do you think all the mini vans come from and I had to laugh.
by M Krip on Jan 5, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Absolutely how I feel about them.
/GrewUpInKC-MadeItOutATiger
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Jan 5, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I have to say...
I’ve rec’d every comment in this nice little string of ku hate.
I hate their arrogant asses as well.
by B_W on Jan 5, 2012 12:35 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I would like to humbly retract my karmic thread post about kU.
It had been awhile since I was in Missouri and again, recently, I was reunited with the Feathered Kind.
It did not go well, and I wanted to formally let tigers and chiefs fan know that I have rebounded my hate five fold…which means I am probably half as full of hate as her, but it’s a start.
A form with the proper levels of hate, and the description of said hate will follow forth with.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 5, 2012 12:59 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I can feel at rest
about the state of the world again. I haven’t slept well since that karma thread of kU love.
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Jan 5, 2012 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I like you Doc
But there’s still some retribution for that jack mess. You must prove your hate.
Never forget Wolf Island, or pie! #AHAMF, it's vaguely sordid.
by Spider_Monkey on Jan 5, 2012 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
Bless you.
"KU, you're nothing to me now. You're not a rival, you're not a friend. I don't want to know you or what you do."
I actually had a beaker counselor try to talk my daughter out of going to Mizzou in high school.
Had to go down there and have a meeting with her to set it straight.
by M Krip on Jan 5, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions 5 recs
That is horrible.
I was recently in KC, and saw all the billboards.
Do they realize the billboards aren’t in Kansas?
I would like to see a billboard directly on the boarder behind the Welcome to Missouri sign on (is that 270?) that says.
THIS IS MISSOURI; Check a map since 1830.
With a Tiger on it.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 5, 2012 12:54 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
KU fan here
It’s probably a reference to the number of KU grads versus MU grads in the city. The city is in Missouri, but the main allegiance is to KU. Hence, “This is Kansas City”
That is one more rec for you field
You can't be fat and fast, too; so lift, run, diet and work.
Hank Stram
"Winning isn't everything, but it beats anything that comes in second."
--Paul "Bear" Bryant
by 65 Toss Power Trap83 on Jan 5, 2012 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think the MU grads in KC really care how many KU grads it has.
That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!
I don't care how many Walnut Bowls Missouri has
But we don’t get to vote on billboards.
there you go. Comparing the ad campaign to Walnut Bowls sums it up completely!
That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!
by drewder on Jan 5, 2012 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Is this the same Walnut Bowl
which was played at the Acme Bowl in Redding, CA from 1962-1965?
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
Rocky Balboa once told me, "Nothing is real if you don't believe in who you are."
I drove back to DC on I-70/64 last week
And I feel like some of the adult bookstore billboards of my youth have disappeared. I’d go so far as to say that I think W. Virginia may have pulled ahead of you on this measure.
You still lead in “Never Shake a Baby” billboards, which have always been my favorite.
It's true. WV is better than us!
That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!
by drewder on Jan 5, 2012 1:21 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
They did hang 70 on Clemson.
"KU, you're nothing to me now. You're not a rival, you're not a friend. I don't want to know you or what you do."
On the topic of adult bookstore billboards
I’m not really the target market for these things, but I find the name Lion’s Den to be kind of intimidating. I’d already be worried about what sorts of characters I’d be likely to find in a highway-side adult bookstore. If it’s called the Lion’s Den, those fears are amplified tenfold. No DVD, magazine, or blow up doll could be worth a knife between the ribs as you walk through a darkened gravel parking lot.
It's right by a Dairy Queen. It can't be that bad.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
i stop at that dq everytime i go to como
and joke with the wife about going to the lions den. i hope she never says yes and actually calls my bluff.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 5, 2012 1:32 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Stuckey's!
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
I was really disappointed to see they remodeled it
My fondest memory of KU/MU at Arrowhead from ’08 is watching a Mizzou fan induce a complete freakout by the KU fan working the counter at that gas station.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Jan 5, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions
Which is true it is Kansas City, but....
is there actual numbers showing the level of alumni per school?
If that is still true there are more grads in a city that doesn’t mean that the School owns or even represents said city.
It’s like saying Gorgia Tech IS Oxford, Alabama and putting up billboards about it. I mean that in a very lose interpretation.
It further casts a pompous attutide of a school, not even in the same state, towards others that live there.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 5, 2012 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
KU cites numbers showing twice as many KU grads as K-State or MU. I don't know the source
It shouldn’t be a huge surprise, considering KU is by far the closest of the schools and has two campuses in the metro area.
And I can’t understand how MU fans, whose candidacy for the SEC was largely sold on claiming Missouri’s two large metro areas, can say that claiming a metro area is pompous. Unless this is some sort of self-loathing karma thread again.
We are a state school.
the 2 city’s are within our state. It has to do with the # of tv sets in the state, not the poster on the wall near the tv. You’re smarter than that and you know it.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
I'm not arguing that it's pompous to do so
MU was right to point out the number of television sets it brought to the table. KU is right to point out its advantage in fanbase. I don’t have a problem with what either school did. I’m only calling out the double standard.
sigh
The Missouri effort was an attempt to sell their value to a new conference. The Kansas effort was a passive-aggressive rant at Mizzou for leaving.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
by Gaknar on Jan 5, 2012 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
Yes, some people pursue more money out of noble intentions
Others pursue it out of passive-aggressiveness.
And the only way to tell which is which is to have made up your mind beforehand.
To be clear
That wasn’t supposed to be purely a dig at MU fans. I’m sure there are many KU fans who see advertising for fans as harmless run-of-the-mill marketing and MU’s move as born out of passive-aggressive desire to punish its Big 12 mates.
If you honestly believe that Mizzou went to the SEC to punish the Big XII, I don't know what to say
The billboard campaign was certainly an attempt to gain market share in KC, but coupled with the twitter whining and Bill Self’s rants, even the national media saw it for what it was.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
by Gaknar on Jan 5, 2012 1:27 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Which is what, exactly?
That KU was trying to take advantage of Mizzou leaving to gain a bigger share of the KC market?
Oh no, forward thinking!
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 5, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
Big12 member institutions have always been know for their forward thinking.
The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.
by SleepyFloyd7 on Jan 5, 2012 1:30 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Wouldn't continuing the rivalry accomplish that?
Football in Arrowhead, basketball in Sprint, baseball in Kauffman. Good payouts when fans show, nationally relevant games in basketball at least. How is it forward thinking to kill that?
We are DAVIDSON City!
by Gaknar on Jan 5, 2012 1:31 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Who exactly is KU trying to convince with their add campaign?
That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!
I can't wait until the Sooner Network moves into KC
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
by Gaknar on Jan 5, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
since KC is a Big 12 town LHN is already required viewing
That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!
Except for, as of yesterday,
LHN was still not available in Austin…
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Jan 5, 2012 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
Why?
They get paid regardless. And with Oklahoma about to sign a distribution deal with Fox Sports, there’s no way Texas is going to abandon LHN and those markets to their rivals. I think what’s more likely to happen is that the rest of you will be “encouraged” to side with one or the other and maybe they’ll let you show your own games in KC.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
by Gaknar on Jan 5, 2012 1:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
LHN has been an embarrassment to UT from day one
They benefit more from ridding themselves of the embarassment than the do from some more money to add to the pile.
And, to be clear, by give up, I mean make it an optional channel at much lower cost to the subscriber than they’re asking for now, not to give up the network completely.
And I’m not worried about KU getting on TV. I live in DC and I hardly ever have to leave my house to see them play.
Texas doesn't give up without a fight
LHN is Deloss Dodd’s baby, and he’s not going to fight this hard for it and lose a third of his conference just to let Oklahoma get all of the glory. Texas probably should give it up, but I think you’re about to see a war.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
I gotta believe Deloss cares more about people seeing his baby
Than getting paid as much as possible for it.
But I may be wrong. Or ESPN may not allow them to do that.
Then you haven't been paying attention
Part of the LHN payoff goes to the University general fund. The Texas legislators love it. Texas is not giving up the LHN. They might have to modify it at some point, but they aren’t giving it up.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
Like I said
I may be wrong.
I just feel like having a network that nobody can see starts to seem stupid after awhile. Especially considering that, when they started it, increased exposure was the whole point. They didn’t think they’d make any money off of it.
Of course they thought they would make money off of it
You don’t start something this big and this ambitious if it’s not going to be profitable in the long run. Yes, they underestimated a lot of things, but they’re getting paid and that’s ultimately what matters.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
Quick!
Give me something to be sick in!
"KU, you're nothing to me now. You're not a rival, you're not a friend. I don't want to know you or what you do."
x
What do you have against the ring-tailed lemur?
by threadkiller on Jan 5, 2012 7:34 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
My mom is a managing partner at a big KC law firm
The billboard campaign is couple with a marketing campaign to large businesses letting them know how many KU grads are in KC and encouraging them to strengthen their ties (read: $$$ and jobs) to KU and publicize those ties. It’s all about consolidating the hold on the KC market.
Good for them
Mike Alden is meeting with KC officials next week to work out how to grow Mizzou’s presence in KC.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
I have no problem with that
Drewder wanted to know the goal of the campaign. I was sharing what I knew.
This is why they show
such notable academians as Sodd Reesing and the funny company.
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Jan 5, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not really sure what this means
Obviously, athletics is the face/front porch (pick your metaphor) of the university. I think MU was pretty clear on this during the whole switching conference decision.
But Reesing was also a very good student.
Merely can't remember who else is on the billboard...
I’m usually upchucking out my window when I drive past it. It just seems odd if the purpose is to educate large companies in KC on how many graduates of kU there are that they do so with pictures of athletes.
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Jan 5, 2012 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
The obvious Mizzou counter is obvious
Show those businesses how many Kansas fans showed up at Arrowhead this year. It’s not your city if you don’t show up.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
by Gaknar on Jan 5, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I would _love_ to get in a debate about whose fans are better
but I’ll demur. We can have that discussion at RCT if you want, but I think it would be straight up trolling to do it here.
I'm not sure you can have that debate at RCT
Because of the banhammer.
/justsayin’
by MU'97 on Jan 5, 2012 2:00 PM CST up reply actions 10 recs
I'd rec troll this
but it takes three recs to go green here.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
by Gaknar on Jan 5, 2012 2:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
And this isn't straight up
trolling?
Maybe a little vertical trolling?
by tigers and chiefs fan on Jan 5, 2012 4:48 PM CST up reply actions
I suspect the athletics serves to remind them how many KU-loving customers there are in KC. That doesn’t really matter in my mom’s field, but I suspect they tailor their pitch according to the business receiving it.
Also, the billboards generate discussion and serve as reminders. The real work is done on phone calls and in meetings.
Far from being abandoned
KC is a new battleground in college sports. It sits at the intersection of three power conferences, has strong traditions in football and basketball and baseball. In a few years, you will have the Big Ten Network, the SEC Network, the LHN, the Sooner Network vying for control of the region. That’s good for Kansas because Oklahoma and Texas will probably try to bribe you to get your content on their networks.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
Right or wrong, there is a perception that MU abandoned the city
KU is taking advantage of that.
Things might work out better for the city in the long run (although I doubt it — more sports networks in the city just means higher cable bills, and I don’t see any other conference replacing Big 12 events that the city loses), but the perception now is what matters for the opportunity before KU.
This is a perception that
exists in KS heads.
Seriously – how would you know from D.C?
by tigers and chiefs fan on Jan 5, 2012 4:50 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Same way I know who won the game last night
Same way Mike Alden knows about the perception and has set up a meeting tomorrow to try to solidify MU’s ties to the city.
Telecommunications.
there's a perception by ku fans that mizzou gave up the city
I AM A METH AGGIE
by pinkelposse on Jan 5, 2012 6:08 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Since KU fans are so numerous in KC, that may explain it
Regardless, the perception exists, fostered by non-KU activities like the ad taken out by the KC Sports Commission.
Who abandoned Arrowhead?
"KU, you're nothing to me now. You're not a rival, you're not a friend. I don't want to know you or what you do."
by blackfin on Jan 5, 2012 7:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Props to you guys for keeping that date open on your schedule
So that you can work in a game against another opponent
Are you scared
To play an SEC school?
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Jan 5, 2012 9:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
WVU and oSu should have a competition to see who can score the most points on Kansas
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
That is ok with me.
However the nature of the campaign is difficult to understand based on the timing and placement. If that is the true motive great and maybe it should have been done differently
That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!
It's obviously piggy backing on the perception that MU is abandoning the city
Which is either striking while the iron is hot or acting passive-aggressively, depending on your point of view.
Note that I said “perception” above. I’m not making any value judgments on MU switching conferences.
Maybe true but it takes the chance of alienating some as well.
That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!
Correct me if I'm wrong...
but wouldn’t “encouraging” businesses to strengthen kU ties by hiring kU grads over MU grads, simply b/c they are kU grads, go against Equal Oppurtunity Labor Laws?
I don't think alma mater is a protected class
But I’m not a lawyer
Last I checked...
Jayhawk is in the DSM IV.
by galactahack on Jan 5, 2012 10:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The digs at KU on this site are remarkably banal
Refusing to capitalize K, replacing poop and crazy with Jayhawk, is this really the best you guys can do? It doesn’t even seem worth the effort.
I'll make sure everyone of those is torn down before I die
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Jan 5, 2012 9:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The motives are complicated for both sides
That’s why it’s easy for each side to cherry pick plenty of the information that suits their case. I’m sure I could spend an hour going through the RMN archives and find plenty of material to support the idea that MU’s move had a passive-aggressive motivation. I think that was a component, but I don’t think that was the prime mover. The same is true for KU. There’s an element of sticking it to MU, an element of rallying your fans, an element of extending the brand, etc. Which elements you focus on depends on your preconceived notions.
There's nothing complicated about the motives
The Big XII was lagging behind the other power conferences, it only paid for the top schools, it had weak leadership by design, and there was no chance for a conference network. I’m not really sure what evidence you think you would find in the RockM archives to disprove that, but knock yourself out.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
Not many, no.
The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.
by SleepyFloyd7 on Jan 5, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
I don't think it did hurt teams in the Big 12
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
by mizzou2396 on Jan 5, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
First
It doesn’t matter what people here thought. It only matters what the administration was thinking. And no, we weren’t interested in “hurting” other teams, but we certainly weren’t interested in being Texas’ ATM anymore. The fact that we still want to continue the rivalry with you suggests that we’re not out to get you.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
by Gaknar on Jan 5, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Absolutely.
Positively.
Not.
You either die a Tiger, or you live long enough to see yourself become a Jayhawk.
MU... aTm, CU, NU
And the 4 that the Pac didn’t want. 8 schools out of 12 knew that leaving was a thing worth doing. Those that could, left.
"KU, you're nothing to me now. You're not a rival, you're not a friend. I don't want to know you or what you do."
based upon this reply
I retract part of my statement above.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
I am not sure claiming a presence in a city by fans
and having a large viewing population and having billboards proclaiming it is at the same level of pompous.
Wait, just checked…..nope not the same.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 5, 2012 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, crap disregard that...
I’ve had too much Meth today.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 5, 2012 1:15 PM CST up reply actions
For no real reason
A picture of Sanka Coffee.
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Jan 5, 2012 1:17 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think anyone claimed the Kansas side.
And that was on purpose.
"KU, you're nothing to me now. You're not a rival, you're not a friend. I don't want to know you or what you do."
The state was named after the city...
The city was not named after the state.
by B_W on Jan 5, 2012 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
I know it was mentioned a few days ago that Jeff Wolfert signed with the Browns, and...
I didn’t know if it was pointed out yet, but Tim Barnes apparently signed with the Rams earlier this week. Better late than never, right
That is great!
Rams need all the help they could get (even though I am not a Rams fan) and Tim deserves a chance.
by McZou on Jan 5, 2012 9:20 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
The offseason roster can have more players on it than the season roster
so teams sign guys to give them a try at camp and such.
We all understand what being a Mizzou fan is like. That’s no excuse for being a douche.
Tim Howards goal yesterday AMAZING
Incredibly lucky as well. Howards take on the celebration is pretty cool to. Classy guy and a world class goal keeper. Any national team would be lucky to have him.
That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!
Thank you Bill for making
all the links open in another tab/window.
I really appreciate it.
by tigers and chiefs fan on Jan 5, 2012 9:06 AM CST reply actions
uh oh
rock m nation is blocked at work….
Top Heavy Beer Drinker
by DnrW on Jan 5, 2012 9:20 AM CST via Android app reply actions
Thank goodness you have the Droid app
by McZou on Jan 5, 2012 9:23 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Try mobile.rockmnation.com on a regular browser...
…I think that’s gotten by a few filters…
Follow me at @SBN_BillC!
SB Nation
Rock M Nation
Football Outsiders
Football Study Hall
sweet jeebus
More BA planning meetings today. Thank the gods for mobile rock m!
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 5, 2012 10:01 AM CST via Android app reply actions
I would write something else but I don't want anyone to get their feelings hurt.
That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!
i hear ya
if they wanna have these meetings thats all good. i just dont need to be here for them.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 5, 2012 10:09 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
btw, my Bill Self caption was a shout out to you.
Props to the handle.
Never forget Wolf Island, or pie! #AHAMF, it's vaguely sordid.
by Spider_Monkey on Jan 5, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
from Mike Dixon's twitter...
913-744-5866 has texted me 400 times. K State Fans are so lame. #NoLife
Upholding fine Mizzou traditions in Maryland.
MvP, RoC official Nemesis
and reply from the Antler's
SMH. were about to let him know whats up.
So it begins…
Upholding fine Mizzou traditions in Maryland.
MvP, RoC official Nemesis
by Ausgiano on Jan 5, 2012 10:50 AM CST up reply actions 13 recs
I have a feeling with the Antlers getting involved...
that kid is going to very much regret his decision.
I think we'll reconcile it by winning!
-Kim English
by Jack618 on Jan 5, 2012 11:16 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Maybe his number can end up on a poster which gets on tv?
Never forget Wolf Island, or pie! #AHAMF, it's vaguely sordid.
by Spider_Monkey on Jan 5, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
Reading it verbatim from the comments here...
Hey Program dudes— at least log in and say Hi :)
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Jan 5, 2012 11:36 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Love the Antlers
at the William and Mary game I took my wife, 19 year old daughter and 5 year old daughter over to their section, introduced ourselves, made sure to thank them for everything they do and then asked if we could get pictures with them. They were very warm to the idea and just a fun bunch of guys to meet with. My 5 year old started chanting M-I-Z and was getting some awesome Z-O-U’s out of them.
by M Krip on Jan 5, 2012 11:36 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
there's a new number that is texting him now
620-717-1753.
I imagine if one were to google that number, they might find this
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=503917209
Remember kids, don’t put your personal info on facebook.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
Depending on what's being said, Tyler may need to look for new employment
/university staff taunting rival players is (generally) frowned upon.
by SEC Supremacist on Jan 5, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
I know Mike Alden supposedely hates the Antlers
But I wonder if he doesn’t covertly slip them money now and then.
We are DAVIDSON City!
Oh looky, here.
It says Tyler is on facebook…..I wonder for how long now.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 5, 2012 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
And another one...
(913) 424-8139 KS, USA @The_Antlers
the interwebs has made this more interesting to watch.
Upholding fine Mizzou traditions in Maryland.
MvP, RoC official Nemesis
if only you could see what was being sent.
by SEC Supremacist on Jan 5, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
Meh, we don't care enough about bounceysqueakhoops
And we wont play in footbaw. I’d pay to see what will be sent to Saban though.
by SEC Supremacist on Jan 5, 2012 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
That's Florida.
But he won’t get them.
by SEC Supremacist on Jan 5, 2012 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
You should, however, send him jorts.
they are all the rage down there.
by SEC Supremacist on Jan 5, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
I'll give Todd Reesing a call.
We are DAVIDSON City!
by Gaknar on Jan 5, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know if I'd want to know...
Upholding fine Mizzou traditions in Maryland.
MvP, RoC official Nemesis
uscE wr jeffrey is officially declaring
good news for defenses
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 5, 2012 11:48 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
Alshon Jeffery
A really good reciever for So. Car.
by SEC Supremacist on Jan 5, 2012 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
Over 1500 yds receiving last year
Only 750 this year due to injuries. 15ypc average.
by SEC Supremacist on Jan 5, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
Due to injuries...
…and also poor quarterbacks and complete lack of interest. Pretty sure he actually declared for the draft three months ago and just didn’t tell anybody.
Follow me at @SBN_BillC!
SB Nation
Rock M Nation
Football Outsiders
Football Study Hall
either way
good for us
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 5, 2012 12:08 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Garcia
was a great quarterback and had a tremendous beard. I’ll not have you bandying about words such as “poor” in conjunction with this aweseome fellow.
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Jan 5, 2012 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
His Brah-someness knows no bounds.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 5, 2012 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
I hear he was the inspiration for Franklin and Bash
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
Not if you are going to make
prank phone calls with your online number.
For sure.
You been busy? I am swamped this week.
by tigers and chiefs fan on Jan 5, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
not too bad
year end was a sprint to the finish line, lots of people trying to get their books in order, settle up cases, etc. The phone has rang a few times today with new people with new problems though, so I expect it to come back pretty strong.
Do you have your KS bar # yet?
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
Not yet.
Application got sent back b/c I didn’t include my CLE information.
Sent back in yesterday.
If they send it back again, I may give up.
I hate that state so much.
by tigers and chiefs fan on Jan 5, 2012 8:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I sent in an affidavit for a CLE for them (yeah it takes affidavits, not just online clicking)
which I only needed half the credit. So when I left half way through the people wrote in big red ink on the top half credit only 2 CLE hours. I signed it and sent it in. They sent it back to me because I personally didn’t write in the number of hours I was there.
They really care about CLE fraud there apparently. It must have been rampant back in the day.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
Oh its on!
Yeah BABY!
Your Trifecta: English-Denmon-Ratliffe. Your winners: the_k and, for the second straight game, Tigersintheheart. One more, and I guess we have to start calling it the Tigersintheheartfecta.
by Tigersintheheart on Jan 5, 2012 10:56 AM CST reply actions
Over at BOTC they think Frank needs to be more like Norm!
That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!
Kind of tough
considering Jacob Pullen’s “we respect Kansas more than Missouri” rants last year.
We are DAVIDSON City!
frank is obviously a lover
of all men and furry critters
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 5, 2012 11:57 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
What has mine eyes converted to electrical pulse
cannot be un-pulsed.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 5, 2012 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
...this is why I shant be visiting that site.
Though my curiosity wants me too, I guess that’s why my friends call me whiskers.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 5, 2012 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
cause ur curious like a cat?
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 5, 2012 1:20 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
.
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Jan 5, 2012 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
Here's the link to the site, kittypelini - pictures of Bo Pelini with cats,
its hilarious, rivaling mulletsgalore.
This one is one of my favorites
his facial expression actually makes it look like he’s straining to lift that fat kitty.
Soooo I'm tired of rehashing the same old Kansas city argument
can an anaconda really beat a crocodile? My son says yes.
That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!
I'm going no chance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek4yPV9yqCs it can certainly kill a Caiman
but a Saltie is going to be 10 feet and 1000 lbs
an anaconda is going to be about twice as long, but only 1/3 the weight.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
Sometimes I hate you.
You go on with your big bad facts and completely destroy carefully crafted imaginary world.
That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!
sometimes you hate me!
meaning sometimes you don’t! I’m taking that as a compliment.
I don’t know if those facts win the argument though. Crocs got the size, but an anaconda may have a strength advantage. I’m also not sure which one would get the upper hand in the stealth issue.
Plus, the crocs death roll probably wouldn’t affect the anaconda like other creatures. Heck, it might expedite the anaconda’s move to wrap around the croc.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
I'm going with my son. 10 year olds are experts in things wild.
Anaconda!
That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!
hard to beat a 10 year old's logic
but i’m sticking to my guns.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
what if the anaconda had the mouth of a lamprey?
and a second one on the other end like a leech?
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
Rocky Balboa once told me, "Nothing is real if you don't believe in who you are."
Then it is no longer a anaconda and u have brought genetic mutations into the argument.
You are disqualified. Since Kpz was siding with anaconda. Croc wins by default. You may now boo Kpz.
Your Trifecta: English-Denmon-Ratliffe. Your winners: the_k and, for the second straight game, Tigersintheheart. One more, and I guess we have to start calling it the Tigersintheheartfecta.
by Tigersintheheart on Jan 5, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
I actually was going to pick the crocodile.
But I prefer an alligator gar.
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
Rocky Balboa once told me, "Nothing is real if you don't believe in who you are."
Then you devalue the anaconda's unhinging jaw capability.
That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!
I won't post the picture, but basically, the alligator ate the snake and then exploded.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
Both died in the attempt
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
u talkin bout a trouser snake?
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 5, 2012 1:35 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Is it an African anaconda, or a European anaconda?
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 5, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
Blue...no RED! AHHHH
Your Trifecta: English-Denmon-Ratliffe. Your winners: the_k and, for the second straight game, Tigersintheheart. One more, and I guess we have to start calling it the Tigersintheheartfecta.
by Tigersintheheart on Jan 5, 2012 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
what is the color of a bleeding mythical bird?
Never forget Wolf Island, or pie! #AHAMF, it's vaguely sordid.
by Spider_Monkey on Jan 5, 2012 9:49 PM CST up reply actions
I had to rec the entire post.
the comments are just that damn good.
petty typical Thursday.
Upholding fine Mizzou traditions in Maryland.
MvP, RoC official Nemesis
by Ausgiano on Jan 5, 2012 2:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY!!!!
Except 2396, you can feel however you like about him.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 5, 2012 2:46 PM CST via Android app reply actions
you should all love me
if you don’t feel better about yourselves after thinking how vastly superior any person is compared to me, I just don’t know what to tell you. I AM the participation ribbon.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
by mizzou2396 on Jan 5, 2012 2:52 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I won't love you
until you buy me that beer.
by SEC Supremacist on Jan 5, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
Im not much for artificial intelligence bearing animatronics...
Your Trifecta: English-Denmon-Ratliffe. Your winners: the_k and, for the second straight game, Tigersintheheart. One more, and I guess we have to start calling it the Tigersintheheartfecta.
by Tigersintheheart on Jan 5, 2012 2:48 PM CST reply actions
Wow..i really need to work on my replies...
Your Trifecta: English-Denmon-Ratliffe. Your winners: the_k and, for the second straight game, Tigersintheheart. One more, and I guess we have to start calling it the Tigersintheheartfecta.
by Tigersintheheart on Jan 5, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
if this is about me
I’m a little offended by the use of the word intelligence.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
It is about you and im sure i just made your day.
Nice job pretending your cool and stuff. Not gonna fool me.
Your Trifecta: English-Denmon-Ratliffe. Your winners: the_k and, for the second straight game, Tigersintheheart. One more, and I guess we have to start calling it the Tigersintheheartfecta.
by Tigersintheheart on Jan 5, 2012 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
you have both made and ruined my day in the span of 8 minutes.
congratulations.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
more participation medals!
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 5, 2012 3:10 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
because your intelligence isn't articial
it’s just hippie, like Truvia?
Upholding fine Mizzou traditions in Maryland.
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by Ausgiano on Jan 5, 2012 3:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Breaking news
- Landry Jones staying at OU.
- Barry J. Sanders commits to Stanford.
- West Virginia scores another TD on Clemson.
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by Gaknar on Jan 5, 2012 4:13 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
there 19 original comments on this thread.
the remainder are replies. i’d say half of the original comments were reply fails. why do you guys always break out the good meth when i’m not around????
What do you have against the ring-tailed lemur?
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