Know Your Octagon Rival: Kansas State Wildcats
by Bill C. on Jan 6, 2012 9:19 AM CST
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As I mentioned yesterday on The Closers with SleepyFloyd7, right now I'm leaning toward Mizzou finishing about third in the Big 12. This would certainly be a significant accomplishment considering where we thought this team would be a couple of months ago, and it would result in something like a 26-5 regular season record, which is simply outstanding. That said ... if Mizzou has ideas of something better than third place, tomorrow is a good place to start. Beat a likely top four team at their place, despite some key matchup disadvantages, and all bets are off. You know me -- I never bet against a streak, and Mizzou hasn't won at Bramlage since Rickey Paulding left school; but picking against Missouri hasn't worked out very well so far this year, has it?
(And since I mentioned Paulding, I am legally required to share this video.)
Lovely. This video has over 23,000 views; I'm pretty sure 22,000 of them came from me. If this is what it takes to win in Manhattan, then line it up, Phil Pressey.
(Just kidding, Flip. Please don't try that. Even though we know you might be capable of pulling it off.)
Kansas State Wildcats (11-2)
| KSU |
Opp. | |
| Pace (No. of Possessions) |
69.3 |
|
| Points Per Minute |
1.82 |
1.51 |
| Points Per Possession (PPP) |
1.08 |
0.90 |
| Points Per Shot (PPS) |
1.30 |
1.09 |
| 2-PT FG% | 48.9% |
41.4% |
| 3-PT FG% | 33.9% |
28.3% |
| FT% | 64.4% |
64.3% |
| True Shooting % | 53.6% |
46.4% |
| KSU | Opp. | |
| Assists/Gm | 14.8 |
10.2 |
| Steals/Gm | 6.5 |
6.3 |
| Turnovers/Gm | 14.5 |
16.9 |
| Ball Control Index (BCI) (Assists + Steals) / TO |
1.46 |
0.97 |
| KSU | Opp. | |
| Expected Off. Rebounds/Gm | 13.1 |
14.0 |
| Offensive Rebounds/Gm | 15.0 |
14.2 |
| Difference | +1.9 |
+0.2 |
Say this for Frank Martin: he's crafted an identity. Even without Jacob Pullen, and even with some glitches on the defensive glass, Martin's Wildcats his the offensive boards hard, draw a ton of fouls, and play tough, man-to-man defense. They don't go for many steals, they don't shoot free throws well, and as we saw on Wednesday, the offense can certainly dry up in a hurry. But they play a home-friendly style of ball, with plenty of momentum plays (usually based around second-chance points), and they will be a really, really tough out at Bramlage.
Ken Pomeroy Stats
| KSU Offense vs MU Defense Ranks |
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| KSU Offense | MU Defense | Advantage | |
| Efficiency | 56 |
42 |
Push |
| Effective FG% | 149 |
72 |
MU |
| Turnover % | 156 |
45 |
MU Big |
| Off. Reb. % | 9 |
79 |
KSU |
| FTA/FGA | 9 |
9 |
Push |
| MU Offense vs KSU Defense Ranks |
|||
| MU Offense | KSU Defense | Advantage | |
| Efficiency | 2 |
16 |
Push |
| Effective FG% | 1 |
7 |
Push |
| Turnover % | 2 |
39 |
MU |
| Off. Reb. % | 136 |
238 |
MU Big |
| FTA/FGA | 116 |
233 |
MU Big |
Where the Wildcats are weakest
They turn the ball over too much (eight different players average at least one turnover per game), they foul like crazy (seven players average at least two per game), and somehow they are not a very good defensive rebounding team. The offense can get bogged down at times, but if they are hitting the offensive glass well, they'll still score their points.
Where they are best
Same as always: offensive rebounding, getting to the line, and forcing teams to take bad shots. It is the Frank Martin way. Their Effective Height ranks in the Top 100, and they have four players with Offensive Rebounding rates of 10% or better (Thomas Gipson 14%, Adrian Diaz 13%, Jordan Henriquez 12%, Jamar Samuels 11%). In comparison, Mizzou has just one (Ricardo Ratliffe 15%).
The Wildcats are also capable of getting hot from long range -- three players shoot 40 percent or better from long range -- but as a whole KSU ranks just 182nd in 3-point shooting, so that isn't really a strength.
K-State's Season to Date
- Wins (Team Rank is from KenPom.com)
vs No. 15 Alabama, 71-58
at No. 35 Virginia Tech, 69-61
vs No. 39 Long Beach State, 77-60
vs No. 145 UTEP, 78-70
No. 167 Charleston Southern, 72-67
No. 180 George Washington, 69-56
No. 196 North Florida, 79-68 (OT)
- Losses
at No. 5 Kansas, 49-67
vs No. 32 West Virginia, 80-85 (2OT)
KSU has played five Top 40 teams (Mizzou has played only one, though Oklahoma was almost Top 40 before getting knocked down to 72nd after Mizzou crushed them), and they have fared mostly well. They avoided major slip-ups versus Charleston Southern and North Florida, and as a whole I think their floor is quite a bit lower than Missouri's, but their ceiling is just about as high, and recent trips to Bramlage suggest Mizzou will get a performance pretty close to their ceiling.
KSU Player Stats
| Player | AdjGS*/Gm | GmSc/Min | Line |
| Jamar Samuels (6'7, 230, Sr.) |
12.9 |
0.50 |
25.8 MPG, 11.8 PPG (49% 2PT, 28% 3PT, 71% FT), 7.0 RPG, 1.3 APG, 1.7 TOPG |
|
Rodney McGruder (6'4, 205, Jr.) |
12.4 |
0.40 |
30.6 MPG, 12.7 PPG (54% 2PT, 30% 3PT, 69% FT), 5.2 RPG, 1.4 SPG, 1.2 APG, 1.5 TOPG |
|
Will Spradling (6'2, 180, So.) |
11.4 |
0.39 |
29.6 MPG, 11.3 PPG (48% 2PT, 44% 3PT, 81% FT), 2.8 APG, 2.3 RPG, 1.0 SPG, 1.6 TOPG |
| Jordan Henriquez (6'11, 250, Jr.) |
8.7 |
0.45 |
19.4 MPG, 7.4 PPG (58% 2PT, 48% FT), 5.5 RPG, 2.5 BPG, 1.9 TOPG |
| Thomas Gipson (6'7, 275, Fr.) |
8.5 |
0.38 |
22.4 MPG, 9.6 PPG (46% 2PT, 51% FT), 6.8 RPG, 1.2 APG, 1.8 TOPG |
|
Martavious Irving (6'1, 210, Jr.) |
6.0 |
0.26 |
22.6 MPG, 6.3 PPG (56% 2PT, 26% 3PT, 62% FT), 2.0 APG, 1.8 RPG, 1.4 SPG, 1.1 TOPG |
|
Shane Southwell (6'6, 210, So.) |
5.5 |
0.25 |
21.8 MPG, 4.3 PPG (37% 2PT, 40% 3PT, 67% FT), 3.3 RPG, 2.7 APG, 1.4 TOPG |
|
Angel Rodriguez (5'11, 180, Fr.) |
4.6 |
0.25 |
18.5 MPG, 6.8 PPG (29% 2PT, 32% 3PT, 86% FT), 2.2 APG, 2.2 RPG, 1.8 TOPG |
| Jeremy Jones (6'2, 170, Jr.) |
2.8 |
0.30 |
9.5 MPG, 3.6 PPG (53% 2PT, 43% 3PT, 67% FT), 1.1 RPG |
|
Adrian Diaz (6'10, 225, Fr.) |
2.7 |
0.39 |
7.0 MPG, 2.8 PPG (70% 2PT, 75% FT), 1.4 RPG |
|
Nino Williams (6'5, 220, RSFr.) |
1.3 |
0.22 |
5.9 MPG, 1.6 PPG, 1.6 RPG |
|
Victor Ojeleye (6'6, 225, Sr.) |
0.4 |
0.10 |
4.5 MPG, 0.9 PPG |
* AdjGS = a take-off of the Game Score metric (definition here) accepted by a lot of basketball stat nerds. It redistributes a team's points based not only on points scored, but also by giving credit for assists, rebounds (offensive & defensive), steals, blocks, turnovers and fouls. It is a stat intended to determine who had the biggest overall impact on the game itself, instead of just how many balls a player put through a basket.
- Highest Usage%: Gipson (26%), Rodriguez (24%), Samuels (23%), McGruder (21%), Henriquez (21%)
- Highest Floor%: Diaz (47%), Spradling (42%), Irving (40%), Jones (40%)
- Highest %Pass: Southwell (70%), Irving (60%), Spradling (58%), Rodriguez (57%)
- Highest %Shoot: McGruder (49%), Williams (42%), Diaz (41%), Gipson (37%)
- Highest %Fouled: Samuels (28%), Henriquez (24%), Gipson (21%), Williams (20%)
- Highest %T/O: Diaz (16%), Henriquez (14%), Gipson (9%), Jones (9%)
- I joked yesterday on The Closers that K-State's offense is basically "chuck it at the basket, then run a play when you get the rebound." They are very much dependent on second chances, and with their wide array of rebounders, that dependence has certainly paid off for the most part. McGruder is probably the guy most likely to take the first shot in a given possession, but in the end the Wildcats get contributions from quite a few players -- four average at least 9.6 points per game.
Keys to the Game
- The Glass. Duh. In their one true road game (Old Dominion), Mizzou got lit up on the glass. They are more likely to be focused and motivated in a big-time conference matchup instead of a one-off non-conference game versus a mid-major, but Kansas State is very, very active, particularly on the offensive end. If Mizzou can either a) neutralize KSU and grab a healthy percentage of defensive boards or b) match KSU's second-chance opportunities with plenty of their own, then Mizzou's chances of winning this game skyrocket.
- The Whistles. This is almost always the case on the road, but the way this game is called will have an extreme impact on the result. Perhaps the single largest change between Frank Haith's team and Mike Anderson's from last year is that Mizzou has improved from 240th to ninth in terms of fouling (Def. FTA/FGA). They are infinitely better-positioned on defense, but quite a few of KSU's free throw attempts come from second-chance opportunities near the basket. If KSU is grabbing second-chance opportunities, the odds are good that they are also drawing fouls. And if Ratliffe and/or Steve Moore get into foul trouble, then that will just make KSU even better on the boards. At the same time, however, both Gipson and Smuels are incredibly foul-prone. If they begin to get into foul trouble, then KSU's largest advantage is somewhat negated.
- Heat Check. Kansas State has four players who attempt at least two 3-pointers per game (McGruder, Spradling, Irving, Rodriguez), and Mizzou basically has five (Marcus Denmon, Kim English, Phil Pressey, Mike Dixon and Matt Pressey). Who gets hot? Both defense have the overall advantage in terms of FG%, so one person finding their range and making even a small handful of 3's could swing this game.
Prediction
I consider myself rather optimistic about the Big 12 season as a whole (though not as optimistic as some), but I am struggling to be too optimistic about this one. Some combination of "never bet against a streak" and "KSU is really good on the offensive glass" has me cowed. Ken Pomeroy has Mizzou pulling this one out, 75-73, but I cannot make myself agree with that. I'll say KSU wins, 72-65, setting up a huge trip to Ames next week. Prove me wrong, boys.
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Rickey Paulding would like to know how dees taste...fecta
Denmon
English
Ratliffe
(Out on a limb, I know)
I'm in
P. Pressey
Dixon
Ratliffe
Take what I say in a different way and it's easy to see that this is all confusion.
Depends on Dixon's psyche......fecta
Dixon
Denmon
Ratliffe
"Let schoolmasters puzzle their brain, With grammar, and nonsense, and learning; Good liquor, I stoutly maintain, Gives genius a better discerning." – Oliver Goldsmith
Tri
English
Ratliffe
Dixon
"You better call your crew, you gon’ need help." - Jay Bilas' advice to teams facing Mizzou in b-ball this year
Tri
Denmon
Flip
STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVE
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
I feel it would be wrong to win three in a row so...
I dont think this is gonna happen, but the score will
Denmon
Dixon
Moore
77-73 Mizzou
Your Trifecta: English-Denmon-Ratliffe. Your winners: the_k and, for the second straight game, Tigersintheheart. One more, and I guess we have to start calling it the Tigersintheheartfecta.
by Tigersintheheart on Jan 6, 2012 9:45 AM CST reply actions
How do you like these apples
Rat
Dixon
Denmon
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
Three's a crowd
Flip
Denmon
cardo
Upholding fine Mizzou traditions in Maryland.
MvP, RoC official Nemesis
Side topic...
Who’s everyone rooting for in the Cotton Bowl tonight? Old conferrence foe or new conference foe?
eessssseeeeeeeccccceeeeeeeee!!!!!!!
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 6, 2012 10:06 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
K-State was the worst 10 win team in history and it irritates me
I want them in flames.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Jan 6, 2012 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
Pretty much this
Although worst in history might be debatable.
You either die a Tiger, or you live long enough to see yourself become a Jayhawk.
Gonna be a great game
when Arky goes up by 40. I figured with the way KSU talked shit on Mizzou for leaving the Big Equation there’d be more hate.
by SEC Supremacist on Jan 6, 2012 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
Meh.
Yes, I’m ticked about the BOTC ridiculous meltdowns. But in SW MO, I’m way too close to Arkansas to root for the Hogs. Way too many hog callers here to root for them. Really approaching a meteor bowl for me. If I had to choose — I’d pick Arky winning but looking really bad doing it.
by IHatedHarpos on Jan 6, 2012 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
It's hard to stay mad at K-State for too long
It’s not like they’re Kansas.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
The problem with cheering for either KSU or Arkansas is that
Kansas is in both of them. /vomit
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 6, 2012 10:54 AM CST up reply actions 12 recs
Beating 4 bowl winning teams, and one end of season top-15 team (Baylor) tells me the Cats were pretty good
They played a lot of close games, but going 8-1 in one TD games tells me they’re tough. One of the one TD games conference games shouldn’t have been that close, but the Cats went into a shell in the 4th quarter and let a clearly inferior team back into it.
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
BOYCOTT ESPN!
I'm just hoping...
that all those KSt fans are down there in Texas and won’t make it back for the game tomorrow!
And I’ll root for Arkansas. Need to start learning how to be a good SEC fan :)
by tigerfan1 on Jan 6, 2012 10:36 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Wooo, Pig, Sooie
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
I think we can all agree on who to root against at the Cotton Bowl…
the WBC. Apparently God also hates……football?
"If you gave even a fraction of the time, money, or interest in serving God that you give to the players on the field, this country wouldn’t be in the mess it is in."
by TheHamburglar on Jan 6, 2012 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
They're in for a world of hurt when some 300 lb hawg in nothing but a stupid hat and overalls comes after them
by SEC Supremacist on Jan 6, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
Possibly NSFW video evidence of how crazy Arky fans are:
Busted Coverage’s summary (+ link):
Premise of Video: Two rednecks get ready to fight before the Arkansas Razorbacks football game last Saturday. They eventually get into it, but the epic running commentary is as good as, if not better, than the fight itself.
Climax of Video: Hell, "Woo! Pig Sooey! Whoop his ass!" is the funniest moment, but that’s close to the beginning. Maybe it’s when the announcer turns the camera on himself and sings, "Everybody got their ass whiiiiiiiped!"
by TheHamburglar on Jan 6, 2012 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
You'll notice that they didn't picket at Kansas' bowl game.
Rational Mizzou Talk, whether you like us or not.
by Andy--01 on Jan 6, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Underrated comment folks. This should be green.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
EsssssEeeeeeCeeee for me
It’s the lesser of two evils. Go Arkansas.
"You better call your crew, you gon’ need help." - Jay Bilas' advice to teams facing Mizzou in b-ball this year
Arkansas by 6 points or less
and the total to be below 64.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
A gutsy performance in store...
Kim-Steeeeeve-Rat!
by galactahack on Jan 6, 2012 9:59 AM CST via Android app reply actions
I am just waiting for Pressey (#1) to Posterize someone this year
You know it will happen. I may hang the poster next to my Spud Webb over Minute Bol Poster.
Of Course Phil Pressey’s youtube dunk is the top related video.
by Zou want a piece? on Jan 6, 2012 10:02 AM CST reply actions
uh
Because of course it moved making me look like an idiot.
by Zou want a piece? on Jan 6, 2012 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
I am more comfortable in our chances after reading your preview
It seems that our strengths counteract their strengths, and their weaknesses can be exposed better than I thought they would. Anderson teams were poorly equipped to compete at Bramlage, and I have fHaith that our team will not foul as much.
Denmon
English
P. Pressey
Testing123 from android app to a totally random post
by Wan Ihite on Jan 6, 2012 11:39 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
san-fecta
Denmoney
Kimmey
Ratliffey
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
The Parallelagram of Procellous; picks
English
Denmon
STEEEEEEEEEVEEEE
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 6, 2012 11:05 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
We only when if this tri gets in the game fecta!
Jones
Sutton
BOWERS!!!!!!!!!!!
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 6, 2012 11:08 AM CST reply actions
What encourages me about the game, despite Bill C giving a party pooper prediction
is that MU has many weapons and has the capability to adjust to different styles. As Bill pointed out, KSU is prone to fouls and their rotation is not usually more than 8. So as much as we fear foul trouble, so do they. We do have the free throw shooting advantage I think we can win in a tightly called game if our guys start driving and causing all sorts of fouls. All five of our guards can slash well. I hope we get really aggressive in attack mode each possession, unless someone happens to be wide open behind the arc.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
Such things should never be spoke aloud.
"KU, you're nothing to me now. You're not a rival, you're not a friend. I don't want to know you or what you do."
It seemed that last year
Frank Martin always had a good feel for what Mizzou was going to do (since they did the same thing every game and never seemed to scout their opponent) and was able to counter it by breaking the press or forcing fouls. Mizzou is much better at scouting this year and they seem to specifically go after a team’s strengths (Oklahoma’s rebounding advantage). I don’t know if it’s enough to win in the Dodecahedron, but I certainly have more faith (in Haith) than I did last year.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
I think the teams in the Big12 figured out ExCMA's style,
and this was especially evident on the road last year. Without the home crowd to give us that extra oomph, the team really looked flat.
As much credit as I give Anderson for bringing the program back to respectability, I honestly believe that in this current NCAA basketball era, his style is more conducive to building up programs as opposed to reaching and maintaining a consistent championship/final four caliber basketball program.
by TheHamburglar on Jan 6, 2012 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think there will be much of a home court advantage this year...
With the Cotton Bowl tonight, and the 12:30 tip off, I just don’t see many fans rushing back to fill up the arena.. …FECTA
Denmon
Dixon
English
So we're praying for triple OT tonight?
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
Tri
Denmon
Ratliffe
Dixon
Watching that video is both amazing and painful. With a lineup of Paulding, Johnson, McKinney, Conley and Bryant, that team should have won a lot more games.
by Michael Atchison on Jan 6, 2012 11:32 AM CST reply actions
Im starting to feel like Tom Hanks at the end of A League of Their Own
Gritting my teeth and cursing at a toddler: “We’re gonna win!”
I know they lost that game in the movie, but that is not what matters.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 6, 2012 11:43 AM CST reply actions
Trifecta guess
STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVE!!
English
M. Pressey
OCTAGON OF FECTA!
Soul Crusher
Kimmeh!
Cardo
What do Tigers dream of when they take a little Tiger snooze? Do they dream of mauling Jayhawks, Or Todd Reesing in his sod helmet suit? Don’t you get in a self-loathing funk, We’re gonna start this party with a Lawrence Bowers dunk, And then we’re gonna find Kimmeh’s shot too, And bring a victory back to the Zou! Zou, Zou, oh back to the Zou! But if we keep shooting the three like we have been… Then we’re shit outta luck
Note to Bill...
I would be thrilled if you could work that Paulding video in at least once a week :)
by tigerfan1 on Jan 6, 2012 12:25 PM CST via Android app reply actions
I think MU comes back to earth this Saturday
K-State is pumped for this after an embarrassing loss at Phog and they come out swinging. Mizzou falls behind early and spends the rest of the game playing catch-up.
K-St: 78
Mizzou: 70
I was thinking similarly regarding K-State coming out of the gate strong.
Hopefully this experienced team will be able to keep themselves composed in such a hostile environment, playing against a team trying to rebound from an embarrassing loss to a rival. Hopefully K-State has a lull from coming out too strong
by TheHamburglar on Jan 6, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
I think Haiths' style lends itself to any situation.
If they fall behind, I could see Mizzou going full-tilt NASCAR on KState to catch up; If they fall a bit behind towards the end of the game I see Haith adjusting to max ball protect and solid possessions….
what I’m trying to say is it seems so far, as the preview suggests that Haith has a plan for each particular team in many different situations.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 6, 2012 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
It's hard to imagine K-State not coming out swinging
In my totally unscientific imagined scenario the game is decided in rounds 3-5, bizarre shooting aberrations aside.
whew
I was getting worried.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
by mizzou2396 on Jan 6, 2012 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey, don't knock it
He’s been good luck so far, just like me for not attending games and refusing to include Kim English in my trifecta picks.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
no knock was intended
I think he’s a good barometer, if he comes out and starts saying stuff like “we’ll win this by 25 without breaking a sweat” I’m going to start getting nervous.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
I'm a Debbie Downer on this one
I see us shooting under 40%, getting outrebounded by about 15, and at least one of Ratliffe/Moore fouling out.
I know, I know … kill me. But I see KSU’s hoops team a lot like their FB team this year — drag you down, suck the life out of you, make you play your worst game so they don’t have to play their best.
Take what I say in a different way and it's easy to see that this is all confusion.
by SiberianKhatru on Jan 6, 2012 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
My fan club's comments notwithstanding
K-State isn’t going to be easy for anyone to beat at Bramlage this season. Should be one of the toughest home courts in the 12.
We have t-shirts
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
Agreed, if we win, it will be a 'Nova, ODU type win and not
Cal or OK.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
isn't that what we said about Cal or Ok ?
before the game?
Bill C. predicted Notre Dame to beat us by a few points, predicted a 7 pt win over ‘nova, and predicted a 12 point win over OU. (I can’t find a preview for Cal)
"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."
My first try of the season fecta
English
Denmon
Flip
"Sorry about him, he's dealing with being an inker. " - Chasing Amy
This may be a silly question but...
Does the trifecta pick have to list the players in order from top scorer to 3rd highest scorer or just list the highest 3 scorers?
it's in order
but it’s not just high scorers, it highest AdjGS which is:
- AdjGS = a take-off of the Game Score metric accepted by a lot of basketball stat nerds. It redistributes a team’s points based not only on points scored, but also by giving credit for assists, rebounds (offensive & defensive), steals, blocks, turnovers and fouls. It is a stat intended to determine who had the biggest overall impact on the game itself, instead of just how many balls a player put through a basket.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
ehh itake that back
denmon
ratliffe
flip
dont think kimmeh will be as spot on………….. theres your cue kimmeh prove me wrong………. PLEASE
I think we'll be able to score enough to pull this one out against a struggling offense
For my trifecta I got
English
Ratliffe
P Pressey
by CapnCribbs on Jan 6, 2012 1:28 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
I think we lose
but, if we win, the only other game I’ll expect us to lose this regular season is at AFH.
Rational Mizzou Talk, whether you like us or not.
Oh, and I'm not picking
because I have’t picked all year.
Rational Mizzou Talk, whether you like us or not.
no you didn
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 6, 2012 1:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You would rather I pick a trifecta pick
for the first time all year when we have yet to lose?
Really?
Rational Mizzou Talk, whether you like us or not.
No!
Maintain the superstitions!
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
If Phil Pressey tries to Ricky Paulding in Manhattan
Will Spradling will be there to take the charge….
Surgeon General's Warning: K-State-Mizzou basketball may increase the risk of high blood pressure. Please consult your doctor prior to watching any of these games.
Random KSU Defender 2004 was too...
…and Paulding just jumped over him.
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by Bill C. on Jan 6, 2012 2:35 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Holy Crap!
Really, I think you jsut discovered where meth was first invented or introduced.
That is down right scary.
It reminds me of
the South Park episode where they all get high off of cat pee for some reason…
Wait a second, wait a second...
…did the ref call a charge on Paulding?
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Nope. Block.
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Thank God.
Hard to tell in the video, but if that was a charge, I mean, I’d build a time machine to go back in time so I could be outraged at that call.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
You're thinking of Keyon Dooling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io24lQQ32Ho
Rational Mizzou Talk, whether you like us or not.
My first tri-fecta
Denmon
Dixon
Ratliffe
This will be the one game the crowd may not be as rowdy…. They have a bowl game tonight and no way to get home on time for the 12:30 game time. Which is why K State tried to get the time moved.
That;s why I want OT tonight
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
a ksu ot win would almost be perfect for us
get the entire student body, fans and b-ball out celebrating that win and not thinking about tomorrow.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 6, 2012 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
My aunt
will be at both the bowl game and the basketball game. Driving back right after the game, not even staying the night anywhere.
She doesn’t miss any KSU games if she can help it and that is not just for football and men’s basketball.
She’s pretty out there, but I do admire her dedication.
by tigers-royals on Jan 6, 2012 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
Everyone who will be at the bowl game rooting for KSU
are from Johnson County and root for the Jayhawks during basketball season.
Rational Mizzou Talk, whether you like us or not.
freaking jo-co
I’m so happy to be working on the correct side of state line.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 6, 2012 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
It was all JoCo numbers trolling Mike Dixon yesterday.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
i loved that they were all 913's
its no biggie, daddy will just get them all new numbers for their iphone 4s’s
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 6, 2012 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
DO IT
Dixon
Denmon
Ratliffe
A Missouri Tiger, an American Outlaw, Fire Section 8 Supporter, Bears STH, White Sox, Bulls, Blackhawks, USA Soccer... basically your worst sports nightmare in a Woman's body...
This game scares me
I’m not sure I can handle the excitement if we win.
Mizzou is getting former texas WR Darius White
The no. 6 overall wr in his class. He will sit out 2012 and have 2 years of eligibility left!
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
powermizzou and pete scantlebury tweeted it, im sure its up at PM.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 6, 2012 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
Pete also just tweeted that we had a RB commit to us today also.
Shaping up to be a good weekend!
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 6, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
Checked his twitterfeed
I hope he gets remedial English when he enrolls.
haha
Looks like the RB was Russell Hansbrough, must have decommited from ASU.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 6, 2012 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
See? ASU won't even be able to field a team against us next year!
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
I would desert my team if they tallest qb in history declared for the draft also.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Jan 6, 2012 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
oh you guys are killing me with that line
wouldn’t it be something if he had a 4’ 2" girlfriend always hanging around. Then we could hear about her as well.
I remember Kareem Abdul Jabbar had a seemingly really short
girlfriend. It looked like she needed a stepladder in order to give him a kiss.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
I think by definition KAJ's gf would be short
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
This can't be right
Moving to the SEC, there is no way that Mizzou will ever again get a player from the state of Texas, much less one of Texas’ players.
Too bad it’s not an A&M player. We’d be in line for a national championship next year with that level of talent.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
by Gaknar on Jan 6, 2012 4:10 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
This is the winner
Denmon
Ratliffe
M Pressey
Damn, it's nice that Nebraska is gone! No more bickering with them stalk lovers anymore! Thank God for education!
Seth Davis predicts Mizzou loss this weekend.
He also thinks Kadeem Green is a guard.
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
Rocky Balboa once told me, "Nothing is real if you don't believe in who you are."
Well, if you are going to take a guess out of thin air this year...........................
safest bet would be to go guard.
denmon
dixon
ratliffe
If I was going on a picnic, I'd invite Ryan Theriot, and I would ask him to bring the lunchables.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 6, 2012 5:06 PM CST reply actions
"We'll reconcile by winning"Fecta
Denmoney
Mike “F You” Dixon
Good Kimmeh
hey, bill?
you know how you’re overworked and all> stop wrinting about stupid bouncysqueakydribblyhoops. we don’t care anymore. you’re welcome.
What do you have against the ring-tailed lemur?
the spelling and punctuation in that post was an atrocity, folks. sorry if you read it.
What do you have against the ring-tailed lemur?
Don't sell yourself short, the content was too.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Jan 6, 2012 6:42 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
M-I-Z -fecta
Denmon
Ratliffe
Dixon
Go Tigers!!
Word
Mizzou Athletics
The latest NCAA stats are out, and they reflect how dominant the Mizzou men have been so far: Of the 18 categories they track, the Tigers are in the nation’s top 10 in 11 of them, and lead the country in FOUR! Also, Mizzou boasts the nation’s best shooters both inside (Ricardo Ratliffe shooting 76.7% from the field) and outside (Kim English shooting 55.3% from 3-point)!
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
by Gaknar on Jan 6, 2012 7:46 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Angry Tyshawn is Angry
_tee_y tyshawn taylor
if half that talk about ball could actually ball .. I’d appreciate y’all comments and criticism more but y’all can’t do stuck to being a fan
_tee_y tyshawn taylor
once again I repeat ..if you can go out there and lace em’ up.. I’ll accept the constructive criticism ..but since y’all cant well ..yeah
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
by Gaknar on Jan 6, 2012 9:00 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
No one planks anymore!
Its all about perching! A more aristocratic owling.
Your Trifecta: English-Denmon-Ratliffe. Your winners: the_k and, for the second straight game, Tigersintheheart. One more, and I guess we have to start calling it the Tigersintheheartfecta.
by Tigersintheheart on Jan 6, 2012 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
Trifecta
Dixon
Kimmeh
Steeeeeeeeeeeve
To SEC, or not to SEC, that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous Texas,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them?
OT Fecta
Ratliffe
English
Moore
Does anyone know why the Big 12 Network has affiliates everywhere, including NY, but not Chicago? Related: Does anyone know of any strange channel that might happen to be showing the game tomorrow?
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
Trifecta
Denmon
Ratliffe
Phlip
I’m travelling in India with intermittent internet until February. It’s sureal to know Mizzou has played without knowing whether they won or lost for days on end. I’ll probably know Wednesday whether we win today.
Anyway, go Tigers!
"I try to shoot shots that I know are going to go in."
-Marcus Denmon
There are many poachers in India
So becareful when and where you yell “Go Tigers”
by McZou on Jan 7, 2012 7:53 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
better late than never fecta
Denmon, p pressey, Ratliffe
Top Heavy Beer Drinker
by DnrW on Jan 7, 2012 10:17 AM CST via mobile reply actions
EMAW WORLD BEATERS TRIFECTA
English
Denmon
Ratliffe
Tri ck Money
Denmon
Dixon
English
I am the racoon that has been living in your attic for a week
by Mizzoufarmer on Jan 7, 2012 11:49 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Tri lam
English
Ratliffe
Denmon
by TigerStyle on Jan 7, 2012 12:07 PM CST via Android app reply actions
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