Study Hall: Mizzou 72, Baylor 57
Your Trifecta: PPressey-Denmon-Dixon. Your winner: nobody!
Back at the start of conference play, when Mizzou obliterated Oklahoma, I simply said that "This is what Mizzou stats look like when everybody plays well at the same time." Well, not everybody played well yesterday. Matt Pressey was invisible and Ricardo Ratliffe struggled mightily. So Mizzou only beat the Big 12's No. 3 team by 15. But the shooting. Oh, the shooting.
In some ways, there was about a five-minute span in the second half yesterday that reminded me of the 2008 Mizzou-Nevada football game, where seemingly every play Mizzou ran resulted in a 68-yard touchdown. Hey, there goes Derrick Washington for a long score. Dump off to Jeremy Maclin? 80 yards. And look, there's Chase Coffman stiff-arming 17 defenders and hurdling three for a 40-yard gain that should have stopped after eight yards. That was the game where The Beef and I turned to each other and agreed that it was never, ever going to get better than this. From a shooting perspective, it was the same way yesterday. It almost literally can't get any better than what Missouri unfurled for a little while.
It was 38-37 Mizzou for almost four minutes in the second half when the ball got rolling.
- 13:10: Mike Dixon 3-pointer (41-37)
- 12:41: Steve Moore dunk in transition (43-37). (Timeout, Baylor. Scott Drew makes two substitutions, then Pierre Jackson badly misses a 3-pointer.)
- 11:50: Kim English 3-pointer (46-37). (Timeout, Baylor. Scott Drew makes three more substitutions.)
- 10:50: Phil Pressey 3-pointer (49-38). (Perry Jones III rebounds his own missed jumper and is rejected by the bottom of the rim on the putback attempt.)
- 10:18: Marcus Denmon 3-pointer (52-38).
- 9:47: Mike Dixon 3-pointer (55-41).
This wasn't Mizzou-Nevada in that the offensive perfection didn't quite last as long; Mizzou would make a few more 3's along the way, but there were a few turnovers interspersed. Still, that's 17 points, scored by five different players, in six possessions. Five 3-pointers with a spirit-breaking transition dunk sandwiched in between. It was beautiful.
Mizzou 72, Baylor 57
| Mizzou |
Baylor | |
| Pace (No. of Possessions) | 58.0 | |
| Points Per Minute | 1.80 | 1.43 |
| Points Per Possession (PPP) | 1.24 | 0.98 |
| Points Per Shot (PPS) | 1.44 | 0.98 |
| 2-PT FG% | 45.5% | 41.5% |
| 3-PT FG% | 50.0% | 23.5% |
| FT% | 76.9% | 73.3% |
| True Shooting % | 64.6% | 44.1% |
| Mizzou | Baylor | |
| Assists | 18 | 10 |
| Steals | 2 | 7 |
| Turnovers | 8 | 13 |
| Ball Control Index (BCI) (Assists + Steals) / TO |
2.50 | 1.31 |
| Mizzou | Baylor | |
| Expected Offensive Rebounds | 9 | 14 |
| Offensive Rebounds | 6 | 18 |
| Difference | -3 | +4 |
Make No Mistake: Baylor Played Well For Quite A While
Depending on your glass-half-full or -empty tendencies, there were two ways to look at the first half: 1) Baylor was incredibly dominant on the glass, and Mizzou had to shoot really well to maintain their lead; if the shooting cools off, Mizzou is in serious trouble here. 2) Baylor cannot possibly show the same level of effort on the glass all game long, so the fact that they were so good and still don't have the lead is a very good sign.
To review just how good Baylor was rebounding in the first half, let's go to the table:
FIRST HALF: Mizzou 33, Baylor 29
| Mizzou |
Baylor | |
| Pace (No. of Possessions) | 26.9 | |
| Points Per Minute | 1.65 | 1.45 |
| Points Per Possession (PPP) | 1.23 | 1.08 |
| Points Per Shot (PPS) | 1.43 | 0.97 |
| 2-PT FG% | 60.0% | 36.0% |
| 3-PT FG% | 46.2% | 40.0% |
| FT% | 75.0% | 83.3% |
| True Shooting % | 66.6% | 44.4% |
| Mizzou | Baylor | |
| Assists | 8 | 3 |
| Steals | 1 | 2 |
| Turnovers | 2 | 7 |
|
Ball Control Index (BCI) (Assists + Steals) / TO |
4.50 | 0.71 |
| Mizzou | Baylor | |
| Expected Offensive Rebounds | 4 |
7 |
| Offensive Rebounds | 0 |
12 |
| Difference | -4 |
+5 |
Plus-nine! Baylor knew they had to dominate the glass to win, and they did to an incredible degree. And it wasn't just that they were taller and using their height to their advantage; they were hustling. They were getting fingers and hands on caroms, repeatedly keeping the ball alive until someone with a height advantage could jump and secure the ball. They were battling, and it was working. That Mizzou was able to keep their poise enough to still manage solid offensive efficiency (especially considering they both had some good looks rim out at the beginning of each half and were getting nothing from Ratliffe) was impressive.
Baylor came out aggressive again to start the second half, getting some good looks from long range and playing decent defense. But after pulling to within 38-37 three minutes in, they failed on five consecutive possessions to take the lead -- Jackson missed a 3-pointer (he was atrocious yesterday), A.J. Walton missed a jumper, and Baylor turned the ball over three times. Then Mizzou caught fire, and the ball game was over.
(Mizzou's work on the glass improved considerably in the second half -- they were actually plus-2 in terms of expected rebounds.)
Mizzou Player Stats
(Definitions at the bottom of the post.)
| Player |
AdjGS | GmSc/Min | Line |
| Phil Pressey | 22.1 | 0.58 | 38 Min, 19 Pts (5-8 FG, 4-7 3PT, 5-6 FT), 4 Reb, 3 Ast |
| Marcus Denmon | 19.5 | 0.50 | 39 Min, 16 Pts (6-12 FG, 4-8 3PT), 6 Ast, 5 Reb (2 Off) |
| Mike Dixon | 14.6 | 0.46 | 32 Min, 16 Pts (6-10 FG, 4-7 3PT), 6 Ast, 3 TO |
| Kim English | 10.2 | 0.31 | 33 Min, 12 Pts (3-8 FG, 2-6 3PT, 4-4 FT), 2 Reb, 2 Ast |
| Steve Moore | 2.9 | 0.18 | 16 Min, 3 Pts (1-2 FG, 1-3 FT), 2 Reb |
| Ricardo Ratliffe | 2.2 | 0.07 | 30 Min, 6 Pts (3-9 FG), 8 Reb (4 Off), 3 TO |
| Matt Pressey | -1.3 | -0.11 | 12 Min, 0 Pts (0-1 FG) |
- Phil Pressey wasn't much of a "point guard" last night; he was third on the team in assists and scored 19 points on just eight field goal attempts. Somehow, I think we'll live with that. But perhaps Flip's best contribution was the way he so completely got into Pierre Jackson's head. I noticed early on that he seemed to be going out of his way to nag Jackson, sticking to him (following him over the top of screens, guarding him much closer than anticipated) 40 feet from the basket. He played Jackson in a different way than he tends to play most guards. I figured that must have been intentional, and looking at Jackson's stat line -- 35 minutes, five points on 2-for-9 shooting, four assists (after 15 in Game One), three turnovers, no steals -- it worked. Flip was already the Trifecta winner with his offensive work, but his defensive play was just as important in this one.
- Marcus Denmon fought through a little bit of unfocused play in the game's mid-section (he missed some open shots, he was slow to rotate defensively a few times), but all's forgiven with the way he played the rest of the way. When you play 39 minutes, you are probably going to have a lapse or two; for the game, Denmon scored 16 points on 12 shots, grabbed a pair of offensive rebounds, and led the team with six assists.
- Mike Dixon has perhaps the best sense of The Moment of anybody on this team. When the offense is clicking, he almost blends in, serving mostly as facilitator. When everybody else is struggling, he says "F*** it" and starts raining 3-pointers. The entire team got hot in the second half, but Dixon was the catalyst. Flip Pressey was the best player on the court yesterday, but Dixon was equally important. As has been said many times, he has just enough Clarence Gilbert in him to take a solid offense to a different, almost obscene place sometimes. There is a smidge of instability to his game that every crazy-good offense needs. With Dixon playing so well, and with Baylor playing mostly poorly on the perimeter, Matt Pressey almost got the night off.
- I don't have anything new to say about Kim English. He has transformed himself from a "points only" contributor to the box score, to the team's best "little things" guy, right down to the drawn charges and the fact that he spends half the game guarding somebody four to five inches taller than him.
- STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVE.
- Ricardo Ratliffe was dreadful yesterday, but I say that with admiration, actually. First of all, he grabbed four offensive rebounds in the second half and hustled as hard as he could despite the fact that he wasn't getting any calls near the rim. (With Ratliffe, it's funny -- either the rest of the team is getting calls and he isn't, or vice versa.) Second ... he's been so unbelievable this year that a single 3-for-9 performance feels like 3-for-18. Or, you know, 2-for-12 (Perry Jones III's shooting line).
| Player | Usage% | Floor% | Touches/ Poss. |
%Pass | %Shoot | %Fouled | %T/O |
| P. Pressey | 19% | 53% | 3.1 | 52% | 24% | 22% | 3% |
| Denmon | 21% | 49% | 4.3 | 73% | 25% | 0% | 2% |
| Dixon | 26% | 49% | 5.3 | 73% | 21% | 0% | 6% |
| English | 19% | 43% | 2.6 | 48% | 32% | 20% | 0% |
| Moore | 13% | 42% | 2.5 | 51% | 17% | 32% | 0% |
| Ratliffe | 25% | 19% | 1.4 | 0% | 75% | 0% | 25% |
| M. Pressey | 5% | 0% | 0.3 | 0% | 100% | 0% | 0% |
To the checklist!
Marcus Denmon's Usage% needs to be 23% or higher. (No.)
Kim English's %T/O needs to be at 10% or lower. (Yes!)
Kim English's Floor% should be at 35% or higher. (Yes!)
Ricardo Ratliffe's %Fouled should be at least 10%. (No.)
Phil Pressey's Touches/Possession need to be 3.5 or better. (No.)
Mike Dixon's %Pass should be 55% or higher. (Yes!)
Steve Moore's Touches/Possession should be at least 1.0. (Yes!)
Three Keys Revisited
The Glass
Despite iffy shooting, Mizzou was able to take the game in Waco because they beat Baylor on the glass. (Well, that, and Ricardo Ratliffe went crazy for 27 and eight.) At home, they might not need to win the rebounding battle, but they will need to come close. Mizzou has handled its size disadvantages much better than we anticipated at the beginning of the season, but not always.
Expected Rebounds (First Half): Baylor +9
Expected Rebounds (Second Half): Mizzou +2
Rebounds kept Baylor in the game despite dreadful shooting, but Mizzou matched the Bears' effort as the game wore on.
The Long Ball
Both teams came into the last battle smoking hot from long range; Baylor ranked 14th in 3PT%, Mizzou 21st. Neither team shot particularly well -- Mizzou was 7-for-21, Baylor 2-for-10 in the first 39 minutes. The Bears shot themselves out of the game to an extent, then almost shot themselves back in with a 5-for-6 run late. If both teams are hot or cold, they will balance each other out; but both teams are ridiculously streaky, and if only one is hot, that's like a bonus 9-12 points.
3-Pointers: Mizzou 14-for-28, Baylor 4-for-17.
Indeed, one team got hot. That team won by double digits.
Flipadelphia
Phil Pressey was both great (16 points, seven assists, six steals) and iffy (four turnovers) against Baylor last time around, and he's been mostly iffy in the last three games overall: 20 points (decent), 0-for-3 on 3-pointers (bad), 15 assists (solid), 10 turnovers (bad). Hopefully a few days off have allowed him to refocus a bit because he and Mike Dixon will need to at least split the battle with Pierre Jackson and the struggling A.J. Walton. Jackson was incredible in the first MU-BU game (20 points, 15 assists), but his six turnovers (and Flip's six steals) helped negate that advantage. Now do it again, Flip.
Phil Pressey: 38 minutes, 19 points (5-8 FG, 4-7 3PT, 5-6 FT), three assists, one steal, one turnover, four rebounds, 38 minutes of residence in Pierre Jackson's head.
I would say the four or five days off treated Flip pretty well, wouldn't you?
Summary
You just shake your head after a while. With Laurence Bowers hurt and Mizzou limited to such a short rotation of scholarship players, I told a good friend in early-November that I would be pleased with an NCAA Tourney bid of any kind, just to send these seniors out the right way. These seniors have had other ideas. I love being wrong like this.
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AdjGS: a take-off of the Game Score metric (definition here) accepted by a lot of basketball stat nerds. It takes points, assists, rebounds (offensive & defensive), steals, blocks, turnovers and fouls into account to determine an individual's "score" for a given game. The "adjustment" in Adjusted Game Score is simply matching the total game scores to the total points scored in the game, thereby redistributing the game's points scored to those who had the biggest impact on the game itself, instead of just how many balls a player put through a basket.
Usage%: This "estimates the % of team possessions a player consumes while on the floor" (via). The usage of those possessions is determined via a formula using field goal and free throw attempts, offensive rebounds, assists and turnovers. The higher the number, the more prevalent a player is (good or bad) in a team's offensive outcome. As you would expect, someone like Kim English has a high Usage%, while Steve Moore has an extremely low one.
Floor%: Via Basketball-Reference.com: Floor % answers the question, "when Player X uses a possession, what is the probability that his team scores at least 1 point?". The higher the Floor%, the more frequently the team probably scores when the given player is involved.
Touches/Possession: Using field goal attempts, free throw attempts, assists and turnovers, Touches attempt to estimate "the number of times a player touched the ball in an attacking position on the floor." Take the estimated touches and divide it by the estimated number of possessions for which a player was on the court, and you get a rough idea of how many times a player touched the ball in a given possession. For point guards, you'll see the number in the 3-4 range. For shooting guards and wings, 2-3. For Steve Moore, 1.30. You get the idea.
Anyway, using the Touches figure, we can estimate the percentage of time a player "in an attacking position" passes, shoots, turns the ball over, or gets fouled.
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Ha, fixed.
I apparently had decided that I’d written enough words at that point and skipped right over it.
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Bowers Injury
After Bowers got hurt I told a friend of mine that I would be relying on the Columbus Blue Jackets this winter for sports success. The Blue Jackets made some big offseason signing and things were looking up for them while Mizzou had a new coach and no Bowers.
The Blue Jackets are in last place in the NHL. Thank you, Mizzou, for taking the sting out of the Blue Jackets being terrible yet again.
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"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
The look on Rosburg's face
Is kinda creepy
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counting on the Columbus Rick Nashes
to do anything much is not a great way to lead your life. And I say that as a Leafs fan.
It is really sad
We’ll find out in the next two weeks before the trade deadline, but it is looking more and more like “blow up the team and start over” is a legitimate option. For awhile people thought the problem was that Columbus didn’t have a number 1 center to play on Nash’s line. Well, Jeff Carter was supposed to be that guy this year and it didn’t turn out very well. Fans are really starting to question whether Nash, rather than the people around him, is the problem.
The Steve Moore was super impressive live,
It was disappointing that the cameramen collectively messed it up for replays (at least i didn’t see a good one at the game).
Also, sometimes it feels as if Baylor is playing Hot Potato with the ball. And not in a “they share the ball well kind of way”
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Let's see if this works in other areas.....
T Rob is going to go for 30 and 20 on Monday night and if ksu isn’t raining threes they will get blown out in manhattan.
Annoying You Since 1986
by MUTIGERS86 on Feb 12, 2012 9:43 AM CST reply actions 4 recs
BTW Mizzou is 9-0 vs the RPI Top 50.
Holy crap thats impressive. Other one seed teams records against top 50
Syracuse-7-1
Duke-6-4
Kentucky-6-1
mich st-6-5
unc-7-4
baylor-7-4
ku-7-4
ohio state-6-4
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by MUTIGERS86 on Feb 12, 2012 9:48 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
No the problem is we have two losses to teams not in the top 50. (although k st is 52)
The rest of those teams have a combined 1 loss outside of it. (ku to davidson). That loss to OSU is just absolutly murdering our resume. With it we are probably 3 over all in a fight with Duke, ku, OSU, and Mich st for the last number 1. If we won that game we are at least 2 overall and have clear separation.
Annoying You Since 1986
If we win the Big 12 including a win at ku
then we are going to be a 1 regardless.
That is very true.
Honestly if we win out except that game I still think we get it. (Esp if that includes a win over ku in kc).
Annoying You Since 1986
if we go 28-3 going into the tourney and make the final...
and lose to kansas again, i would argue we’d both deserve one seeds. especially if ohio state drops another game down the stretch (likely) and doesn’t win their tourney (also likely).
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 12, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
Denmon played 39 minutes?
I could’ve sworn he was out for a 2-3 minute stretch where our offense looked especially stagnant.
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Also
I think Kim English (as noted above in the summary) is the glue for this team. He’s playing out of position and still has improved his shooting from the last two years.
A game where he doesn’t draw a charge is highly unusual. If he’d been scoring at this rate his first three years, we could retire his jersey.
Proud Meth Aggie since 2011.
18 on 24
My favorite stat is the 18 assists on 24 field goals. A superstar can go cold at any given time, especially in the tournament, so to have a team built so solidly on team play and sharing the basketball will be such an advantage come Dance time.
Scott Drew, pick your poison
guard out to the three point line and allow dribble penetration and the dish to Ratliffe: didn’t work.
Clog the lane, lay off the penetrators, and allow the guards to shoot: didn’t work.
This game might have done more to mess with future Mizzou opponent’s minds than any other game this season.
Not that it matters, but our Longhorn-sympathetic bracketologist
thinks Mizzou is the third 2 seed, and Texas is still a 7.
http://basketballpredictions.blogspot.com/
For entertainment purposes, of course.
These are the projections for the end of the season...
Not for if it ended today. And if you think Mizzou will get beat at Kansas and then in say the semis of the big 12 tourney….that is fairly reasonable.
Annoying You Since 1986
Only because he's running out of excuses for talking up Texas
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
I am fine (enough) with Mizzou's projections
but Pomeroy has us splitting the title with ku at 15-3. If we split the title with ku, play them in the conference championship game, and enough carnage goes down in other conferences, both teams being 1 seeds is very reasonable.
BTW, if we split the title with ku, we’ll win the #1 seed in the conference tournament because ku lost to ISU.
Oh I agree with that.
Just saying if you are predicting the end of the season,a nd you think Mizzou loses at KU and then say to KSU IN KC in the semis….the 3rd 2 seed is a reasonable placement.
Annoying You Since 1986
Here's where I disagree with it
UNC and Duke have been far from reliable this season.
OSU still has tough games coming up, and a very tough conference overall (albeit one without the “top strength” of the Big 12)
I believe that the Big 12 has a real chance at two #1 seeds. Regardless, I disagree with the bracketologist’s opinion that we will be the third best two seed at the end of the season; we’ll at least be above the ACC’s number two team.
I agree with you.
But I don’t think its completely ridiculous or unreasonable projection at this point.
Annoying You Since 1986
Where I do disagree with you....
Is that I find it very unlikely the big 12 gets 2 #1 seeds. That would require the winner of acc and big ten to not get a 1 seed. (When is the last time that happened? Let’s face it the committee loves these conferences especially when the big ten is universally accepted as the top conference in addition to being #1 in the RPI)
Annoying You Since 1986
And the fourth was from the ACC
And the big east was by far the #1 in conference in both view and RPI.
Annoying You Since 1986
(It was 2003 to save you guys from checking)
Annoying You Since 1986
and if the committee does its job
it’s not about conference name or team name. The ACC is weak this year.
I’m not saying it’s going to happen, but it could. I guess it’s kind of a silly argument, since we’re mostly saying the same thing.
Talking heads on CBS CBB show today
pretty much all agreed that the ACC gets 10 teams into the tournament.
I don’t see the big 12 getting two #1s if something like that happens.
ACC?
….
You’re joking, right? Or are you misquoting? Gotta be one of the two.
by CBonerfied on Feb 12, 2012 8:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Big East maybe? Even then...
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
IF isu stays in fourth.
if k-state finishes ahead of ISU (and kU beats them in manhattan), then they get it.
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 12, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
But Lunardi has us 1 in the Midwest
KU 1 in the West.
And for entertainment purposes only, as well.
"Gentlemen, this is a football."-Vince Lombardi
"Slow down coach, you're going too fast."-Max McGee
That's crazy talk
Whether Mizzou gets the #1 seed in the West, or the #2 seed in the West, or the #3 seed in the West, or perhaps #4 seed in the West after a horrible collapse… one thing is clear.
Mizzou plays in the West Region. ALWAYS.
There’s a pod in Boise this year, right?
Proud Meth Aggie since 2011.
we're omaha bound for the first/second round no matter what region we get put in.
assuming a top 2 seed.
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 12, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
Selfishly I'm hoping for Columbus
But that probably isn’t best for the team and doesn’t look likely anymore.
Not sure I'm that excited about Omaha
given that it is likely to be a heavily pro-KU crowd.
by Professor Chaos on Feb 12, 2012 2:21 PM CST up reply actions
They sell tickets in sessions
It would take a rich beaker to buy an all-session ticket to boo Mizzou in the opposite session. Since their degree isn’t worth much….
by CBonerfied on Feb 12, 2012 8:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
And they would do it just to prove how little they care about us
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
by Gaknar on Feb 12, 2012 9:21 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That's crazy since kansas is a state in the West.
And Missouri’s a state in the South.
Reconcile. By. Winning.
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by Fullback U on Feb 12, 2012 11:43 AM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Reposted from wrong thread
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
by Gaknar on Feb 12, 2012 10:52 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I like this part
“MU would succeed in averting blame for its having brought the rivalry to an end.”
If it continued, it wouldn’t end. kU fans are highly stupid.
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That will certainly raise some eyebrows.
Annoying You Since 1986
This. Is. Fantastic.
While there may be a small minority of KU alumni and fans who would like to see the competition continued on the basis of tradition, many of us find that the bitterness between the fan bases of both schools has rendered it less palatable, and we have no desire to continue it just for the sake of tradition.
Two bullet points later…(emphasis mine)
With MU’s decision to leave the conference, it has chosen to walk away from one of the greatest rivalries in all of sports, one that began even before KU and MU first became conference partners in 1907.
I mean, what do you even say in the face of such incredible logic?
by Transmogrified Tiger on Feb 12, 2012 11:00 AM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Haha, that's even better than the whole "this rivalry belongs in the Big 12 conference"
stuff. kansas people aren’t very smart.
by StopSpe on Feb 12, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I like the part where he thinks the Big 12 might be the best conference in football...
Any conference with their football program cannot possibly be considered the best.
MU wouldn’t have to worry as much about its decision to leave the Big 12 being blamed for adversely affecting KC sports economics.
In other words: It isn’t important that KC gets hurt, it’s important that Mizzou gets blamed for hurting KC. It’s like a doctor refusing to save a patient’s life, on the basis that it’ll look much worse for his enemy if they die.
by Wan Ihite on Feb 12, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions 7 recs
Oh, and remember, they don’t need us, and they’re not bitter or upset, and they totally don’t even care that we’re leaving. And HIS HAND IS ON MY SIDE!! MOOOOOOOM!
by Wan Ihite on Feb 12, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
ku frame of mind: "Look! I just pooped in the toilet and it doesn't stink! Never does either!"
Here is another dandy,
"The football rivalry, begun in 1891 and played 120 times to within 1 or 2 games of an all-time draw (depending on whether KU and the NCAA or MU is counting), is the oldest west of the Mississippi. Despite this longstanding tradition, it was MU that chose to abruptly end it by leaving the Big 12.
Ha Ha Ha….
.
MU: We would like to continue the rivalry.
KU: Nope, you ended the rivalry so you don’t get to continue it.
MU: The rivalry isn’t actually over yet. We’d like to make sure it doesn’t end.
KU: Nope, you don’t get to keep the rivalry that you ended.
MU: We don’t want to end it, we want to keep it going.
KU: Well sorry, we’re not going to reward you for ending the rivalry by continuing the rivalry.
MU: This is why you’re all fry cooks.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
by Gaknar on Feb 12, 2012 7:47 PM CST up reply actions 8 recs
That's pretty much it
It all comes down to spite.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
I like the part where all of western Missouri
Will be less interested in MU athletics if we don’t play KS.
Thank you Tigers
You helped out my heart rate with that $200 bet I put on you at Caesers in Vegas, even if you made me sweat out that 1st half -3 bet.
by Team on Feb 12, 2012 11:05 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Just woke up, guess what, Mizzou's still awesome.
What’s everyone up to today?
Reconcile. By. Winning.
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Funny thread from before the season:
I had 12-6 as best-case scenario in conference, and I thought that was maybe even too optimistic.
Low expectations are fun. Hard to believe we’re at the point where a win over the #6 team is basically expected.
i know it's been said before...
but at this point i can’t help but just drop expectations and truly enjoy what i’m watching. this team is special. and it will be over before we know it.
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 12, 2012 11:45 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Enjoyed the game at a cigar lounge in STL yesterday.....
when Big Steve threw down, i dropped a “STEEEEEEVE!!!!” Got a couple of looks. It was worth it.
Transcript of a statement I made to Mac6uffin prior to the game:
“I’m ready for Good Phil to come back.”
Using these newfound powers of persuasion, I’m now ready for Mizzou to win out through April and for a gorgeous young woman to decide she greatly enjoys my company. With great power comes great responsibility…
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I'm not saying anything
But I may know a girl in our neck of the woods, and I believe she is single. But I don’t want to sat anything, cause that would presume something.
Upholding fine Mizzou traditions in Maryland.
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by Ausgiano on Feb 12, 2012 12:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Stream of consciousness thoughts
1. I love Mike Dixon as a basketball player. His attitude, his confidence with the ball, everything.
2. Who hates Keiton Page?
I believe the better question is:
Who DOESN’T hate Keiton Page?
Take what I say in a different way and it's easy to see that this is all confusion.
by SiberianKhatru on Feb 12, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
i figured page for more of a "took".
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by threadkiller on Feb 12, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
well if we're going to pick nits
he’s probably a Sackville-Baggins
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i didn't mean to nitpick.
i just figured by the slack jaw of page, that he is a fool. we know of at least one took who has been called by an influential wizard a fool. i’m curious as to the qualities he possesses to qualify him as a sackville baggins. is he known to sponge off others’ good fortune?
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by threadkiller on Feb 12, 2012 2:33 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, keiton page blows.
why would you NOT hate that dude?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 12, 2012 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
It feels like Keiton Page should be out of eligibility already
But yes… I also hate Keiton Page.
I'm not having a real good time.
Just trying to start the hate fire amongst RMNers
for Wednesday.
Here’s hoping Page shoots 0-20, gets warnings for repeated flopping, and gets ejected for complaining at the end of a 50 point drubbing.
I'd prefer he airball a couple shots then flop so hard he injures himself
just so I don’t have to see his mug all game long
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Yeesh. Anyone else watching ILL/MICH
Could the uniforms get any brighter? Pretty sure you could see it from space.
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Kinda want ILL to win this game
But they just seem to be giving all their opportunities away
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Kiwis taking it to South Africa today, 15-0 at half
the USA unfortunately lost earlier to Australia, 19-14.. so they are out of the bracket for the Vegas tournament
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Assuming my Math is right...
If Denmon averages 11 per game through the 8 minimum games remaining then he will be 6th all time in scoring, and 20 per game he will pass AJ for 5th all time. That is some elite comapny
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"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
if you're a missouri football player who wants to go to the NFL
…then yes
I believe in the The Black & Gold Standard
For as much as I appreciate living in
KANSAS City, this place is all MIZZOU City these days!
From a purely unscientific poll, it has been determined that wearing of Mizzou gear has increased 360% this season.
It drives the Beaks crazy. Teehheeehheheeee.
This is so much fun!!
by tigers and chiefs fan on Feb 12, 2012 5:23 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
the sickening thing, though?
a lot of those fans were probably beakers up until february 3rd.
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by threadkiller on Feb 12, 2012 8:12 PM CST up reply actions
Of course, the world is filled with bandwagon fans.
Did you know 22% of people who follow the NFL are Packers fans? Wisconsin has less than 2% of the country’s population, so I would guess the vast majority of their fanbase would disappear if they had a recent run like the Chiefs or Rams have had.
I guess if you don’t care about it that much, somebody in KC could be a “fan” of KU, K-State, and Mizzou and just actively support whoever is doing well at the moment. Still, I really hate those types of fans.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Feb 12, 2012 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
Bandwagon fans
IN kansas?!?!
I’m shocked you would make such an accusation, sir! I demand satisfaction.
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I'd guess there's a lot on the Missouri side too.
I went to high school on the good side, and there were a good number of KU fans. I sadly have to say that there were more Kansas fans from Missouri than the other way around, although I may be biased since I don’t know many people from Kansas.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Feb 12, 2012 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
There's somebody in my neighborhood here in St. Louis that has MIssouri plates but KU stickers on their car.
I have to resist the urge to key their car every time I see it. What a disgrace.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Feb 12, 2012 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
One?
Hahhhahhahahhahahahhhaahhahaa.
I see hundreds of those cars every day.
But I really enjoy seeing the Kansas plates with Mizzou gear. That always makes me smile.
by tigers and chiefs fan on Feb 12, 2012 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, but I thought that nonsense wouldn't happen in St. Louis.
I wasn’t thrilled to have to move to the Eastern part of the state, but I thought I had finally gotten away from the hoards of KU fans. So every time I see that car it pisses me off, and occasionally I have to stop myself from taunting KU fans I see on campus.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Feb 12, 2012 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
I won't question anyone
who is on the Mizzou bandwagon – it’s fun!
It’s the hard core Beaker fans who are annoyed with the influx of the Tiger apparel and I love it!!!! OMG – I want to win in Lawrence so bad that it hurts.
by tigers and chiefs fan on Feb 12, 2012 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
you are known to be a higher quality individual than myself.
if i know of a jayhawk on the mizzou bandwagon, i’ll wait until it’s up to full speed, then i’ll throw them off, making sure a tire runs them over as we leave him in the dust.
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by threadkiller on Feb 12, 2012 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
Just re-read last August's karma thread
Amazing stuff.
It is to thank for the SEC move, a good football season, an amazing basketball season, the success of Frank Haith, and DGB. It was that good.
by CBonerfied on Feb 12, 2012 5:35 PM CST via mobile reply actions
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 12, 2012 5:41 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Yeah, pretty sure BST ALONE was worth two of those five things...
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 12, 2012 5:44 PM CST up reply actions
So I need a recommendation for a comedy series on netflix.
Something along the lines of mindless entertainment like party down.
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Haha awesome, Just got done with season 1 of party down.
It’s so funny yet it makes me feel so sad. Plus, one of the characters has my exact name.
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The only thing bad about party down is that there are only two seasons.
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I have no idea what Party Down is,
but if you haven’t, watch Arrested Development
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by SleepyFloyd7 on Feb 12, 2012 8:13 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
"Hey, aren't you that guy? That guy from the beer commercials?"
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No, just one of those faces.
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Just watched the first episode
Kinda boring at first, but really picked up at the end.
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Good reminder, I have episodes of Arrested Development to finish!
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