Mizzou Links, 2-17-12
Mizzou Basketball Links
- The Games Just Keep Getting Bigger
The Trib: Tigers keep eye on ball as excitement builds - Home Court Advantage
KC Star: Who gets the call: Charting fouls in the Big 12
Post-Dispatch (Bernie Miklasz): Mizzou's formidable homecourt edge - Dixon
KC Star (Campus Corner): More on Michael: Nothing has come easy for Dixon - Winning
The Missourian: Five Missouri seniors set career men's basketball win record - NERRRRRRRRRDS
MUtigers.com: Jarrett Sutton, Laurence Bowers Named Academic All-Big 12 - Breaking Up Is Hard To Do
The Missourian: Big 12 basketball coaches will miss playing in Columbia
Other Basketball Links
- Big 12
The Trib (Steve Walentik): Big 12 Power Poll - Hoop City
KC Star (Campus Corner): KC loves its college hoops on TV
Mizzou Football Links
According to the good folks at PowerMizzou, Mizzou picked up Commit No. 3 of the 2013 class, another local kid who they offered on Junior Day: K.C. Hogan Prep athlete Anthony Sherrils. (Yes, that's where Marcus Denmon went to school; yes, Denmon and Sherrils are cousins.) Supposedly he has been given the option of playing either receiver or safety and hasn't decided which yet.
Initial scouting report (based on nothing more than some highlights above): he is a long-strider, someone who looks like he's just gliding in place, only nobody catches him. I thought the same thing watching Jeremy Maclin's high school film, and I thought the same thing watching the film of a bunch of players who weren't fast enough to get away from anybody at the collegiate level. Like I said about Russell Hansbrough in the Walkthrough series, it all depends on if he actually has that extra step versus real competition or not, and we can't tell from film. My initial guess is that he ends up at safety, but ... it's obviously a hair early to guess with any accuracy. There aren't a ton of defensive highlights above, and he hasn't been taught proper form yet (though one has to appreciate how hard he hits, especially when he is taught proper form), but that's my guess. Huzzah, three commits!
- NEW 2013 FOOTBALL COMMIT: ATH ANTHONY SHERRILS (KC Hogan Prep)
PowerMizzou: Anthony Sherrils picks Mizzou - Recruiting
PowerMizzou: Lee's Summit's Jamone Boyd is a rising star - Mizzou-Georgia
Athens Banner-Herald (Dog Bytes) : Early scouting report on Bulldogs vs. Dorial Green-Beckham
All I can say is, I hope the coaching staffs of Mizzou's early-2012 opponents focus as much time as possible on DGB. T.J. Moe, Marcus Lucas, etc., could benefit tremendously from it. But yes, the above article talks about how Georgia might defend DGB Mizzou's passing game in the absence of suspended cornerback Sanders Commings. Mizzou's receiver depth could be really special this year, and obviously I won't be shedding any tears about Georgia's secondary not being full-strength.
Other Football Links
- NERRRRRRRRDS (Also: Self-Share!)
Football Study Hall: In Defense Of Success Rates
SEC
- Gary Pinkel Goes To Birmingham
We Are Mizzou: Coach Pinkel Visits Birmingham
EDSBS: THE SEC COACHES TAKE A DELIGHTFUL PHOTO - $$$
Post-Dispatch: Mizzou sorting out cost of moving from Big 12 to SEC
Mizzou Softball Links
- The Trib: No. 6 MU is eyeing fast start
Mizzou Baseball Links
- SimmonsField.com: MU @ Auburn Tigers: SEC prequel
- SimmonsField.com: HI NOTES: Hitter, Twitter, Hither and Yon
Other Mizzou Links
- Mizzou Women's Basketball
The Missourian: Mutual friend praises Missouri coaches Haith, Pingeton - Mizzou Gymnastics
The Missourian: Missouri continues tough schedule against No. 3 Oklahoma - Mizzou Tennis
MUtigers.com: Mizzou Tennis Pink Out
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I think it was mentioned on here a while ago
But one of the little extras about the move is all of the added EDSBS coverage/hilarity
I too am loving the extra Mizzou content at EDSBS.
What I’m truly (hopefully) looking forward to is seeing some of the commentariat eat crow. Every time I see a comments about how Mizzou is going to finish in the basement of the SEC, you know because if you aren’t a historic SEC team then you’re crap, I wonder how these people are going to react if/when their team gets beat by Mizzou. Will they admit that they know nothing about football outside the SEC (low probability) or start calling for the heads of their coaches for allowing a mediocre, former Big XII team, to beat them or simply claim that it was set up by Slive to make the addition of Mizzou look better by having them beat their own, obviously superior, team?
I’m not saying anything like Mizzou is going to be in the SEC Championship or anything like that but these folks need some perspective of their own. Heck, I find it funny that I’ve seen Gator fans that aren’t optimistic about beating us while other SEC fans seem to take it on faith that Florida is simply gonna cream us.
Gonna be a fun season.
I have not had many experiences with Gator fans but from what I have seen they know football and respect Mizzou
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That's exactly what I am saying.
I’ve seen what I consider knowledgeable Gator fans talking about how they feel that the game against Mizzou is likely to be a tough one and that they are very happy they get us at home. These fans seem to actually pay attention to teams outside the SEC and see Mizzou as a program that while not one of the elite is certainly one to be wary of and that brings additional quality to the SEC.
What I find funny are the number of SEC fans, who seem to think that because they are in “the best football conference in the nation” (Umpteen National Championships in a row, PAAAAWWWL) that it means that any team from outside the SEC is pretty much crap in comparison. Their mindset isn’t that the SEC is very deep and that their elite have been great but that any team from outside the SEC is a joke. I’m just wondering how these folks are gonna explain losses to a team they predicted would only have two conference wins at the end of the season.
by GreenRipper on Feb 17, 2012 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
To be fair
They’ve beaten every power conference in the championship, including themselves.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
it's also kind of shocking how many people
(espn analysts, random commenters, etc) seem to assume that A&M is much better than Mizzou and better suited for the SEC. I really am tempted to whip out the list Bill had of B12 wins over the past 5 years and point out how much better Mizzou’s been than them.
by jschooltiger on Feb 17, 2012 9:59 AM CST up reply actions
Yes. This.
Its been inexplicable to me. They do realize that we have went into College Station TWO years in a row and beat them, right? Right?! And that we’ve consistently won more games and generally finished higher in both the b12 standings and national rankings for the past half decade, right? No??
But yeah, A&M is clearly more suited for the big leagues.
Stupid facts, always getting in the way of perceptions.
and the comments about "your running qb is going to get crushed"
um, dude threw for 3,000 last year.
by jschooltiger on Feb 17, 2012 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
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I’ve been pleased overall with most of the commentary from the SEC schools and fanbases. It usually ranges from positive-neutral to outright complimentary. Sure, every fanbase has their proportion that is going to hate, but from the SEC guys it’s usually dismissive at worst. Most of the vitriol comes from outside the SEC. I can understand it from the Big XII, but what flummoxes me is the outright hate that comes from fanbases that have little to no history with Mizzou. Michigan State? Really?
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
by Gaknar on Feb 17, 2012 11:03 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
this
all it takes is a couple of bad apples to make a fanbase seem like a bunch of dicks
There are three deaths. The first is when the body ceases to function. The second is when the body is consigned to the grave. The third is that moment, sometime in the future, when your name is spoken for the last time.
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Just wait and see if we do start winning.
If we come out of the gates and win a couple games early that others think we don’t have a chance in, like USCe and Georgia, I bet the Big 12 teams minus Kansas are going to use it to smack talk the SEC in favor of the strength of the Big 12.
"Myself and my teammates are a bunch of winners," ~ Marcus Denmon
this.
it’s just so, so stupid. a&m has been mizzou’s whipping boy the past few years and yet somehow they are so much better prepared than us. must be that clearly superior talent.
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 17, 2012 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
"We Are Mizzou: Coach Pinkel Visits Birmingham"
Worst children’s book ever.
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"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
by MizzouRugby on Feb 17, 2012 6:34 AM CST reply actions 10 recs
Agreed
"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy" – Teets
Busy day yesterday...
Got on late and the idea came to me, decided to post it in the morning instead of over there where no one would see it
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
OMG FIGHTING OKRA
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2012/2/16/2803636/delta-state-fighting-okra-commercial-video
There are more in the ‘related videos’ section after the video at hand. They. Are. Amazing.
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by Bill C. on Feb 17, 2012 6:42 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
Who knew???
How can one not support a team who’s mascot, when pickled, makes a wonderful martini garnish?
"Gentlemen, this is a football."-Vince Lombardi
"Slow down coach, you're going too fast."-Max McGee
2 things
Even I have a difficult time with the accent in the linked clip.
If Delta State was in Alabama they’d claim 15 Championships.
by SEC Supremacist on Feb 17, 2012 9:29 AM CST up reply actions
Does this mean Jared Culver thinks he is, in fact, a Fullback?
So all of my followers have until March 1st to follow @FullbackU or else I will be deleting you unless you’re family
— Jared Culver (@jcbowser) February 17, 2012
This tweet was entirely unsolicited, btw.
Are we going to gloss over your Twitter news?
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by RPT on Feb 17, 2012 7:07 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, that had RPT and me exchanging OMG texts like 13-year old girls.
(Though technically I’m the only one that actually used “OMG.”)
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Danny needs to be on the Wall of Excellence!!!
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Rocky Balboa once told me, "Nothing is real if you don't believe in who you are."
do you know Jared
or are you his random +1?
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Entirely random +1. I chose Jared because he's #38 and reminds me of Zack Abron
This was before the recent write ups. I also like giving credit to glue guys like him. I obviously chose the screen name here and on Twitter as a joke about fullbacks, but this just was too perfect.
What Am I?
Long time reader, first time participator. I know the cake vs. pie thing is played out, but it is causing me internal strife and identity issues. I enjoy both but would choose team pie if forced. However, my favorite individual dessert would be Boston Crème Pie. Although it is called a pie, it consists of two pieces of cake fused together by yummy custard. Some research on the interwebs indicates that it should be considered a cake despite the pie name. I’m lost and confused. How am I supposed to reconcile this?
Alcohol
and welcome
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 8:25 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Well I don't drink
but i often have the “munchies”. This would explain my love for all dessert foods. I will let it die on the vine now.
guh...
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it was a solid nkotb parody.
Genesis 1:1
by threadkiller on Feb 17, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
Do what some of us do who are conflicted about the debate.
Just stay away from it and when cornered go with #TeamAlltheDessert.
Submit to a side
we all must live with the pain of leaving our brothers behind, but a side must be chosen.
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there's no way to tell from that picture if the horse is dead or not
keep beating.
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by mizzou2396 on Feb 17, 2012 8:33 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Seriously, you slept with lumberg?
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 9:47 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, if you could move a little to the left, that would be greeeeeaat.
Check out the up-and-coming Mizzou blog: http://www.zoulogy.com
how did you turn a fax machine into a horse?
MAGIC!
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 8:33 AM CST up reply actions
This is not me, I can provide evidence!
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 9:48 AM CST up reply actions
Say PC LOAD LETTER again!
I dare you!
by Babbalynski on Feb 17, 2012 8:34 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
welcome
just remember the rules and you’ll be fine:
1) pie v. cake is important
2) give recipes to trolls
3) keaton paige v. jason sutherland is randomly brought up
4) Five dollar footlong will win the caption contest every time
5) occasionally Ausiagno and MVPROC talk about weird made up science
6) the prequels sucked
7) BST is drunk
8) Don’t ask about RPT’s story about his relationship with the blog, it’s really long
9) This isn’t a blog, it’s a social experiment to see what happens when they let the inmates run the asylum.
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by mizzou2396 on Feb 17, 2012 8:32 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Drunkish*
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 8:34 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
You mean like now? Or in general?
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Feb 17, 2012 10:02 AM CST up reply actions
In general
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
Our science is not made up...
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Pretty much sounds like sorcery to me
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 8:39 AM CST up reply actions
with all the gin you consume
anything would sound like sorcery
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Who in their right mind drinks gin?
That stuff smells, and tastes like cat p!$$.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 8:46 AM CST up reply actions
Well, maybe if your that high
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 8:49 AM CST up reply actions
I like gin
A gin and tonic on a hot summer’s day is a wonderful drink.
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ok, apparently i am once again firmly in the minority
oh well, i am quite used to being alone.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 9:41 AM CST up reply actions
No worries. The outdoor bar is fully stocked.
Just might want the quinine to avoid malaria.
"Gentlemen, this is a football."-Vince Lombardi
"Slow down coach, you're going too fast."-Max McGee
I'll drink just about any other liquor
Gin has never tasted good to me, and I have tried some of the higher end stuff. Leaves more tequila for me to chug!
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 9:46 AM CST up reply actions
The outdoor kitchen maintains gin and cubes in the freezer,
and tonic and lime in the fridge.
"Gentlemen, this is a football."-Vince Lombardi
"Slow down coach, you're going too fast."-Max McGee
Gin is the ambrosia...
I drink it to not get Malaria.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Feb 17, 2012 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
yes please
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hey Bab
was looking at JB’s website yesterday and there’s a couple of new short stories coming out soon. He wrote a novella sized three-parter with Sasquatch as a client of Dresden. Also working on a short story about Molly.
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Also read that. Sounds fun.
The short stories have been one of the cooler parts of the series. Marcone’s illustrated just how scary that man can be.
I am continuing to be excited about the series
and will be looking forward to his steampunk stuff. I need something to read when I get down the game of thrones series and finish up the last wheel of time book.
Marcone’s an interesting feller. I wonder if somehow he does get burned by harry, but in a completely accidental way.
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I'm thinking Harry will affect John the same way he affects everyone.
He gives them an example and they start to emulate him. Usually making them better people.
maybe
John, in my opinion, really does follow his own set of rules, and refuses to compromise them. He knows people have vices, and as long as they succumb to them in a tidy, orderly fashion, he’ll control it, but be fine with it.
It’s like how the start of Even Hand went down. Ice two of the competition’s goons, but send back the moneyman, not only as a message but to maintain the level of chaos.
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I'm glad someone picked up on The Dessert Wars being played out.
Here I am operating on a Korean Conflict philosophy while everyone else got the memo this is the Seven Days War.
It's just a temporary, uneasy cease-fire. Kind of like a Middle Eastern conflict.
"Gentlemen, this is a football."-Vince Lombardi
"Slow down coach, you're going too fast."-Max McGee
See the Boston Creme Pie is an interesting outlier in that
it has pie in it’s name and yet a cake….this is off set in the dessert-verse by having Cheesecake in the pie category due to it’s crust.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Feb 17, 2012 10:00 AM CST up reply actions
For any Sporting KC fans
Teal Bunbury was invited to the US under 23 camp.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 8:39 AM CST reply actions
I saw this and it would awesome if he plays in the Olympics however not so awesome for SKC during the season.
That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!
Yeah, I was wondering if MLS is going to have an olympic break like hockey often does?
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
They won't and that is the problem with playing a summer soccer schedule unlike the rest of the world.
Although I like the summer sched because it doesn’t interfere with football.
That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!
Yeah, i guess thats what you have to put up with pretty much every other year now
Either the olympics or the world cup interrupting your schedule so that You dont have to go up against football and/or brave the awful winter weather.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 10:02 AM CST up reply actions
I try to drive up to catch at least one SKC game a year, but it would have to be an incredible game for me to come up and sit in Livestrong in January for a game.
That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!
Haha, exactly
The only time I’ve been to Arrowhead past Nov 1st the past few years is for MU vs KU. I dont like outdoor sports in the winter.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
the KC Wizards got screwed a few years ago by this
because they had 3 guys playing for the national team, which killed them in general, and during the stretch they were out they played all 3 of their games against DC United. I believe they didn’t make the playoffs that year.
I almost feel like its not the american team that hurts the mls teams as much as the smaller countries that have quite a few players over here
I wanna say Kamara from Sporting will probly be in the olympics and I dont know who else.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
Int he World Cup this is especially true since most of the US's best players are in Europe except Donovan of course
That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!
I think this trend is starting to loosen a little bit
we’ll see, but I think there’s been enough of a spike in american soccer interest that we’re keeping some of the younger talent here
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maybe but Klinsman is really pushing the youngsters to go overseas.
His main point being they play a longer season in Europe usually.
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Pie Forever!
And does it help the euro players that the world cup and olympics are in their offseason
So they arent right in the middle of a grueling season and have some time to rest and prepare just for that tournament?
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
that is certainly a valid point.
It could be said that those tournaments being the off season give players the time to rest recover from injury and be fresh. Although there is something to be said for a player in midseason form.
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Pie Forever!
That Terez Paylor article about Mizzou's home court advantage is pretty much professional trolling in my opinion.
I’ve already seen it referenced several times by kU fans as proof that Mizzou is a bunch of cheats. Ugh.
Here...
Home court advantage would be simply the difference between foul differential at home and on road. For that here are the numbers.
Mizzou +7.14
ku +7.29
baylor +1.27
texas +8.64
k st +6.76
isu +6.17
A&M +5.37
ok st +4.67
ou +4.10
tech +2.67
So really, Texas has the best home court officiating advantage, followed by ku and Mizzou, and then K St, ISU, A&M, Ok St, Oklahoma, Tech, and finally Baylor.
Considering Mizzou is one of the best teams in the country at not fouling, you can’t just use the numbers at home, you have to compare them to numbers on the road to find the advantage.
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by MUTIGERS86 on Feb 17, 2012 8:43 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
What I take away is that Mizzou has quick guards.
you gotta foul ’em to keep them out of the paint. You might have one guy that can keep Flip from penetrating the lane but not 3 guys and then Kimmeh of course.
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Pie Forever!
Thats the difference right there.
Plus we’re quicker getting to spots on the floor to draw a charge or avoid fouling.
Really? It is not like a single thing on it is made up
How is that trolling?
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Because he doesn't consider the fact that some teams are better than others at not drawing fouls.
He basically assumes that all teams committ an equal number of fouls and so the ones who have them called less at home are getting favorable officiating.
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I think you are reading a bit too much into it
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When I read it I see that Mizzou is playing smart basketball to hide their weaknesses
For opposing fans I can see how the wording and tone of some of the stats would incline them to believe Mizzou’s a bunch of cheats. I’m only reading that much into it because I can see how easy it is for others to do so.
So it is not HIM trolling then...
but you inferring that others will troll based on the information :-)
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Agreed.
My only problem with the article is that his initials are clearly switched, because no one is really named Terez Paylor.
by Z Dubs on Feb 17, 2012 9:03 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
It's just bad analysis
There’s a pretty high standard on this site, and it’s apparent in articles like this one that not everyone is up to that standard.
by Sheriff Blalock on Feb 17, 2012 9:19 AM CST up reply actions
True.
What I took from that is that he had the statistics available to him, but he made poor conclusions.
by Sheriff Blalock on Feb 17, 2012 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
The thing that really grinds my gears
is seeing stats or incomplete data used to support non-truths.
It is actually rampant, not just in sports.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Feb 17, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Absolutely.
Stats can be used to suggest or imply all kinds of things. And since there are numbers on the page, people tend to infer exactly what the author was implying. It sucks.
You can troll with the truth
Spend even a few minutes on the Star forums and you’ll find yourself inundated with Beakers crying about charges and friendly Mizzou refs. Paylor knew exactly what the response would be from them by putting out an article like this. This is old school trolling like we did back in the day.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
I got the opposite
I thought it was more about how senior leadership and good coaching have helped us foul less and and draw more fouls.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 8:44 AM CST up reply actions
They're so wrong, though
and not only because they are Beakers.
I’ve never seen a Mizzou team, and rarely have I seen any college basketball team, understand defensive positioning like this one does. Defense isn’t primarily played with hands and arms; it’s about feet. How else can the amazing change in charges drawn be explained? Kimmie has said as much in interviews; it’s about knowing your opponent, beating them to their spot, and getting position.
The stats back up what we see on the court. This team isn’t stellar in all facets of defense because of physical limitations, but these guys have been taught exactly how to make up for it. And that explains these foul numbers more than anything else. I might add the fact that Mizzou is even on foul calls on the road is stellar.
I don't get mad when kU or any other fans call Mizzou players cheaters
I tell them they are right, and then laugh about it. That tends to make them angrier.
by Jerilac on Feb 17, 2012 9:10 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Or when they accuse Kimmie of flopping
“I guess those acting classes are paying off!”
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
Yep. Grade A trolling.
Poor Beakers don’t even know they’re being played.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
Now here's a quality troll
LeBron James: Return to Cleveland is possible
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
You're welcome Big XII
“It’s an interesting thing,” Alden said. "Those units accrue to the conference, so what happens is when we exit the Big 12 (on) July 1, 2012, any units we’ve earned in the 2012 NCAA Tournament or the five previous ones, all of those will stay with the Big 12 Conference. Those won’t follow us to the SEC.
“So even though we will be departing … the Big 12 will continue to earn a revenue distribution based upon our performance in the NCAA Tournament four or five years after we’ve gone.”
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
Dumb question
And I think I get the gist of this, but what does he mean by ‘Those units accrue to the conference’
Not familiar with the term ‘units’ in this context.
Basically, the way the NCAA divies up cash to the conferences is based on your units in the tournament.
I’m not positive, but I think there are 67 games and depending on how many of these games you played in, and which games , you get a certain percentage of the money.
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K, thanks. Thats what I thought it probably meant.
But when he says “any units we’ve earned in the 2012 NCAA Tournament or the five previous ones, all of those will stay with the Big 12 Conference. Those won’t follow us to the SEC.” I’m not quite following because then he says "the Big 12 will continue to earn a revenue distribution based upon our performance in the NCAA Tournament four or five years after we’ve gone."
Hasn’t the money from ‘the five previous ones’ already been passed out to the conferences? And then he goes on to say the part about “four or five years after we’ve gone,” so he seems to be talking about a 9-10 year period.
Am I just reading this all completely wrong? I shouldn’t be allowed to look at numbers before noon, because it never turns out well.
I believe they pay out based on a four or five year average of your units.
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I think the point to make here is that ku KILLS big 12 revenue
every time they lose to a first round 15 seed.
The tournament is paid out much funkier than football and the bowl system
You continue to earn money off of previous tournies.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 9:36 AM CST up reply actions
NCAA tournament fan here
NCAA tournament money is distributed in several ways, but the part that’s distributed based on performance is calculated by the number of games played by teams in that conference over the previous six years. So of the 387 games (64×5 +67) matching 774 teams played over the last 6 seasons, a conference gets money based on how many of those 774 teams were theirs.
They use units instead of a specific dollar amount because they don’t know until each year happens how much money each unit corresponds to.
Thanks! This makes a lot more sense now.
But I’d prefer if you continue to use your standard “Kansas fan here” in the subject line.
How else are we to immediately know not to trust anything we read in the body of your comment?
by DC_Tiger on Feb 17, 2012 9:40 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
So, for example, the 6 units earned by VCU last year
will be counted in the unit total for the CAA for this season and the next five.
I think each unit was worth around $250K last year.
You like the tournament too!?
We have soo much in common. I really like it when highly ranked teams get upset, that is by far the best part of the tourny.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 9:40 AM CST up reply actions
You might not find it as fun when yours is the highly ranked team
I don’t.
It would, at least, be an excuse to drink.
Ha, I am really almost dreading this years tourny
I’ll be drunk for each game already tho.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 9:42 AM CST up reply actions
We had a discussion about this on RCT a few weeks ago
Most of the commenters have had to find some way to distance themselves from the games as a result of some awful loss (the worst loss ever was Arizona in 97, but the game that permanently changed the way I watched was Bucknell), but all of us felt that made the championship run a little less exciting than it should have been.
I can barely remember the second half of the Memphis game in 08 as a result.
One of the many good reasons to go watch the games in person is that they don’t sell alcohol at tournament games so you really experience the highs and lows.
Pretty sure you just lost BST right there at the end :-)
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Ha, this is yet another reason why I wont go watch a tourny game in person.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
I went to our tourney game last year with a UConn fan
we went to Rocket Bar in Chinatown and did lots of shots, got pretty drunk before the game, only to realize when we got to the Verizon center we would have to spend the next 4 hours sobering up/getting hungover. And having the watch the game we played in combo with developing an evening hangover…lets just say my first NCAA tourney experience was less than enjoyable.
That does sound awful
there is nothing worse than sobering up at a sporting even with 15k+ people around you. And if that game of Mizzou’s didnt wanna make you drink more afterwards, I dont know what would.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
I was lucky enough
to attend the Super Bowl this year. Saw an empty seat right in front of us and overheard the guy explaining that he and his buddy got wasted before the game and somehow got separated and couldn’t contact one another. Since the guy in front of us had the tix he got in the game and the other guy was SOL. You could literally see him sobering up yet feeling crappier right in front of us. He finally got in touch with his buddy with about 5 minutes left in the game, got up and left, and never returned. Hell of a Super Bowl experience for them.
wow... just wow
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holy crap
That is the worst thing ive ever heard.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
You missed us!
The Mizzou fans were at Penn Quarter. I got really drunk and then two different KC news teams got me on camera to ask questions.
My family back in KC said that I sounded good and coherent, because I was sure I was speaking gibberish.
I did praise Mike Anderson. I remember that.
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I was on camera at harpo's in westport after the 08 cotton bowl.
The camera crews kept coming back, and at midnight after we had been there for more than 12 hours, they kept filming us but no more questions. It was rough.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 11:01 AM CST up reply actions
It was a documentary crew
“Here we see the self-hating Mizzou fan who married a Beaker and is now trying to drown his sorrows in mediocre beer.”
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Haha, this was before I was married
And I actually got so drunk that night I put down an ultimatum that we were either going to be together long term monogamously or we were done right then. She somehow accepted, weird.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
to hell with Dutch
we should just call you Casanova.
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I do have a certain....
charisma
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
Fueld by liquid courage no doubt
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by MizzouRugby on Feb 17, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
A bit
I have always been a large and mildly irresponsible person. liquor just amplifies it by about 10000
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
I'd been thinking, if he's to be called Dutch
I think we have to take his pinky
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I worked the 08 title game at a KU bar right by KU med center.
My siblings who are KU alum and huge fans couldnt hardly watch the second half and I swear were muttering bucknell under their breath.
I feel its the same for Mizzou in some ways. We have managed to lose in heart breaking fashion in multiple sports.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
Except the Tigers! Except the Tigers! Except the Tigers!
/throws self at feet of COTG.
BST — you’re begging for a karma thread.
by IHatedHarpos on Feb 17, 2012 9:42 AM CST up reply actions
I think no matter what
we need a pre-post season basketball Karma Thread this year. I need to go into the tournament feeling clean and that we’ve done all we can do.
The Karma thread must be another addiction for all the MethAggies around here.
People are begging for it with ANY reason. No offense meant to anyone. I just think it is funny. Ever since the last Karma thread (which was epic), somebody sneezes and …..KARMA!
by McZou on Feb 17, 2012 11:27 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Just look at the results since that Karma Thread
I can only think it is partially responsible for recent sports success.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
Is there no limit as to how fast one can acrue negative karma?
A monthly karma thread would only expunge a small amount of negative karma.
by SEC Supremacist on Feb 17, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
They need to start selling Karmal apples at the concession stands.
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The UGA/Cornerback article reminded me once again the only thin I will miss about the Big 12.
I’m very much looking forward to the experience that is SEC Football, but speculating on how the loss of a cornerback will affect how to match up with a rceiver yet to set foot on campus and 7 months from the actual game highlights the apathy toward roundball amongst our new conference mates.
when youre in a rebuilding year
with a historically mediocre program, you gotta talk about something. We’ve learned to sooth our rough winters over the years. We live off of football nuggets, gymnastics, and tennis. Its what keeps us alive in February and March.
by Mark Mandingo on Feb 17, 2012 9:53 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
If you want to talk bounceysqueekhoops, talk to kentucky
Otherwise, please focus on sports that matter.
by SEC Supremacist on Feb 17, 2012 10:00 AM CST up reply actions
please read above statement in sarcasm font.
by SEC Supremacist on Feb 17, 2012 10:00 AM CST up reply actions
We will make you like basketball!
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No. No you won't.
I can tolerate it, but I will not “like” it.
by SEC Supremacist on Feb 17, 2012 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
Everyone resists at first, but we have ways of making you watch
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I do not like it Sam I am I do not like Green Eggs and Ham
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by drewder on Feb 17, 2012 10:06 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Football vs. b-ball does not have to end up like pie vs. cake
Rodney King once said, “can’t we all get along?”
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What have we gotten ourselves into???
Four-star junior tailback Alvin Kamara of Norcross, Ga., couldn’t believe what he found in his mailbox after getting home from school one recent day.
Or rather, what he found falling out of his mailbox.
Kamara is set to check out Florida this weekend.
“There were 105 letters from Alabama,” Kamara told Rivals.com.
Seriously?
“I counted!” Kamara said. “And I took pictures. I was shocked. I didn’t expect there to be that many in the mailbox. When I opened it, it was overflowing and some of them fell out.”
Kamara said he’s keeping all 105 of them in one shoebox.
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Must be a big shoebox.
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And a big mailbox
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 9:36 AM CST up reply actions
Indeed.
Wonder how many checks were enclosed.
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"Slow down coach, you're going too fast."-Max McGee
The 14th one threatens to kill his dog if he signs elsewhere.
by SEC Supremacist on Feb 17, 2012 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
And Saban will still cut him if Alabama oversigns
Am I getting this SEC hate thing right?
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Pretty much
However, please note Nick Saban doesn’t use the term cut in regards to removal from the team. He will literally cut you.
by SEC Supremacist on Feb 17, 2012 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
I believe he calls it...
“An Injury Exception”
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How much does an achilles tendon being severed hurt one's 40 time?
Cause Nick Saban knows a guy. And that guy’s name is “Nick Saban”.
by SEC Supremacist on Feb 17, 2012 10:11 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Whats more dangerous: Nick Saban or Mizzou's field?
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
Saban is mobile.
Unless Farout field is going to get up and “accidently cut your brake cables” I think Saban wins.
by SEC Supremacist on Feb 17, 2012 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
?

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by Logan Hill on Feb 17, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions 6 recs
I realize my teenage days are long past
but I find that wasteful and stupid. I’d scratch the school in a heartbeat.
Now Potter, OTOH, is awesome. Had to ensure at least one got past the Dursleys.
in random news, the new Mac OS is apparently called Mountain Lion
I think they’ve bought stock photos of every cat in existence

I heard
They have filed suit against God for violating their patent on the Mountain Lion.
also any joggers that get attacked by mountain lions are subject to lawsuits for violating gods law of tempting an OS
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
I feel I should have a bet with someone regarding the Auburn/Mizzou baseball series starting this afternoon.
Any ideas? I could go double or nothing on the beer bet…
by SEC Supremacist on Feb 17, 2012 10:08 AM CST reply actions
They are doing the media mock selection.
In it, Mizzou won the big 12 tourney…and here is the current S curve theyve gotten so far.

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Funny that a team we were trailing with 2 min left in first half at home is the lowest team in the bracket.
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Ouch, a KU vs Syracuse match up in the elite 8 would be interesting
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
I think that means that SEMO upset Murray St in the OVC tournament.
That would be interesting.
Even though you said it was disappointing, still got my hopes up...

Check out the up-and-coming Mizzou blog: http://www.zoulogy.com
A bit more of a balanced article.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
I enjoyed it
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by MizzouRugby on Feb 17, 2012 11:01 AM CST up reply actions
with all the "worry" on the UGA side about pass defense
I really hope that Mizzou puts up 300 yards of rushing.
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by Ausgiano on Feb 17, 2012 11:02 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I know he probably wouldn't like it
But DGB would make a great decoy.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
I think it being only the second game of the season he'll be used primarily for his height in the red zone,
so potentially we either see him as decoy in the open field, or to force the defense to play honestly near the endzone. Either way I think he doesn’t go for many yards, but gets at least 1 TD against Georgia.
It really will be interesting to see how UGa elects to defend the passing game...
…just from a “do you cover DGB with your No. 1 right away, or do you force him to make plays first?” perspective. He’ll still be mostly an unknown at that point, having only played one game (against TBD)…
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TBD is predicted to have a really good secondary this year.
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I am starting to wonder if they are even going to show up.
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TBD runs the single wing.
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Rocky Balboa once told me, "Nothing is real if you don't believe in who you are."
Is there any picture of Jeff Withey that doesn't make him look like a cave troll?
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I think there is one where he looks suspiciously like an Ent
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this one?

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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 11:37 AM CST up reply actions
KILL IT WITH FIRE
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All of them

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Self really needs to start regulating the amount of coke his players go through during a game
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i read coke as "cake".
maybe the pie/cake detractors are right…..
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by threadkiller on Feb 17, 2012 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
time to start up some ribs for dinner tonight
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by Logan Hill on Feb 17, 2012 11:44 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
Vinegar
spray on continuously
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by MizzouRugby on Feb 17, 2012 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
what sauce are you using?
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
being lazy and using the crockpot
dry rub on the ribs, mixture of the leftover bacon maple brew, water, and vinegar in the pot.. also some chopped onions and potatoes added to soak up the deliciousness
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tonight, will finish off the ribs with a few minutes under the broiler after basting with some sweet baby rays
(again, being lazy.. premade sauce)
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by MizzouRugby on Feb 17, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
such a hater
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
Its all good
Some of the best competition bbq ive ever had used a combo of sweet baby rays and another sauce.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
I've really felt no need to make a homemade sauce...
…because I’ve found so many sauces that I love already. Head Country, Dreamland, etc. Same reason why I’ve never felt the urge to homebrew…
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you should try it a few times, though.
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by threadkiller on Feb 17, 2012 12:04 PM CST up reply actions
And since I mentioned the pride of Ponca City, OK...
…I should leave a link here.
http://www.headcountry.com/
Their Hot sauce is some of the best I’ve had, and their Regular is really, really reliably solid.
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Bill have you had Jack Stack? They have my favorite hot sauce ever.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
Zarda is my favorite KC bbq sauce
far and away
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I do like zarda
The blue springs location was my favorite.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
that's because its the only location that matters
/grew up in blue springs
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Haha
I’m from odessa, so that was the closest location for me.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
typically when I head back to MO, I stop by and grab a couple of bottles of their sauce (in addition to some dinner)
I didn’t last time, and I regret it
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I used to work there back in High School.
The old saying of do not eat where you work holds true.
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Next time your in KC try it out
I love it!
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
Hot sauce..
Like Tabasco or buffalo sauce?
Available for purchase in como?
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by MizzouRugby on Feb 17, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
No no...
…I just meant hot BBQ sauce.
And their reach does not extend too far beyond OKC and Tulsa, so you’d probably have to order it.
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Ah ok
Just looked at the store locator, there is some random store a bit north of town (out of the city) that sells it apparently
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by MizzouRugby on Feb 17, 2012 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
Looks like quite a few walmarts around KC carry it
I’m gonna check it out this weekend.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
OH SNAP...
…THEY SELL IT IN HALLSVILLE? HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS?
(Okay, it’s because I never took the time to look it up. Still.)
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How far a drive is it?
I think my ’76 Mercedes could do it!
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by MizzouRugby on Feb 17, 2012 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
Google Maps tells me it's 20 miles & 36 minutes away from my house.
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by MizzouRugby on Feb 17, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
Now I'm feeling the pressure of expectations...
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Haha don't worry about it
I was going up there any way, figured I would do a nice spring drive around the arrow rock area, and this can be on the way.
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by MizzouRugby on Feb 17, 2012 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
When it gets to be spring of course
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by MizzouRugby on Feb 17, 2012 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
apparently they sell it in Phoenix
Bill: is this sauce really worth me spending time in Phoenix?
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Ha...
…only you can answer that question. All I can say is, it is very good, BBQ-flavored BBQ sauce.
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but Phoenix is a very bad, sh*t flavored, mutated city-like substance
if I find myself trapped in that hellish monstrosity for some reason (i.e., the fiancee wants to go to IKEA), I will make sure and pick some up
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Been to phoenix once
It was over 90 degrees in march. The women were ridiculously good looking but that didnt make up for the rest of the city that blew nuts.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
Tucson still gets really hot
but typically about 5 degrees cooler than Phoenix due to the elevation, and it also doesn’t have the insulating effects of approximately 1 billion square miles of human development
There are three deaths. The first is when the body ceases to function. The second is when the body is consigned to the grave. The third is that moment, sometime in the future, when your name is spoken for the last time.
I believe in the The Black & Gold Standard
Ha
It does feel like your in some sort of alien created heating element surrounded by dessert mountains and awful urban/suburban sprawl.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
dessert mountains?
I wish
There are three deaths. The first is when the body ceases to function. The second is when the body is consigned to the grave. The third is that moment, sometime in the future, when your name is spoken for the last time.
I believe in the The Black & Gold Standard
Shoot
I did however have the best buffalo chicken pizza of my life at a micro brew outside of phoenix. I still dream about it today. that is why im fat.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
well a city of 4+ million people has to have some decent restaurants
there’s a joint down here called No Anchovies that has some pretty rockin Buff Chix pizza
There are three deaths. The first is when the body ceases to function. The second is when the body is consigned to the grave. The third is that moment, sometime in the future, when your name is spoken for the last time.
I believe in the The Black & Gold Standard
I find myself on a permanent search for excellent buff chix pizza
There are a few places in KC that have a pretty good one. But nothing like what I had in phoenix that time.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
this sounds like the making of a blues song
There are three deaths. The first is when the body ceases to function. The second is when the body is consigned to the grave. The third is that moment, sometime in the future, when your name is spoken for the last time.
I believe in the The Black & Gold Standard
Very well could be
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
all this bbq talk got me hungry
I’m going to bb’s tonight for some bbq and blues. And lots of beers. Eff yeah!
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
I'm glad I have spawned another BST drinking extravaganza
There are three deaths. The first is when the body ceases to function. The second is when the body is consigned to the grave. The third is that moment, sometime in the future, when your name is spoken for the last time.
I believe in the The Black & Gold Standard
There are barely stores in Hallsville.
So it won’t be hard to find.
by Sheriff Blalock on Feb 17, 2012 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
yeah I kinda go back and forth
whenever I make my own sauce it tends to have a pretty heavy bourbon influence
homebrewing, however, is just fun!
There are three deaths. The first is when the body ceases to function. The second is when the body is consigned to the grave. The third is that moment, sometime in the future, when your name is spoken for the last time.
I believe in the The Black & Gold Standard
Ok I seriously hate RCT
just saw the little twitter spat.
Fist off, we are in the exact same conference, so strength of schedule is going to EXACTLY the same for the majority of the games.
Second off, you lost to Davidson….
Third, you lost to every good team you played out of conference except tOUS, and they were down their best player.
So why exactly should you be rewarded for trying and failing when it comes to strength of schedule? All it has proved is that you are worse than every good team you have played unless they are missing their star player. And don’t give me the Baylor is highly ranked, we both swept them.
So f-off RCT, your oversensitivity and douchebaggery know no bounds
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
also, losing to MU playing 8 on 5 is what cracks me up
you know what? don’t turn the ball over and make some free throws and you win.
by jschooltiger on Feb 17, 2012 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
holy s*it
screw them. have they forgotten that part where WE BEAT THEM?!
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 17, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
i love ya, rug,
but just don’t go over there. there be jayhawks.
Genesis 1:1
by threadkiller on Feb 17, 2012 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
I did one time and I got banned
I’m pretty sure that it was my sig line that did it and nothing else.
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
by MizzouRugby on Feb 17, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
Same thing happened to me over at Roll Bama Roll
by SEC Supremacist on Feb 17, 2012 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
F-Yeah

"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
by MizzouRugby on Feb 17, 2012 12:21 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Ok ok, am I going to have to see how fast I can get banned from RCT?
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
HERE IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO
GO OVER THERE, REC EVERYTHING TO TURN IT GREEN AND SAY “HEAR YOU ARE HAVING MONEY TROUBLES. HOPE ALL THIS GREEN HELPS PAY FOR THE RIVALRY TO CONTINUE”
I HAVE DREAMT OF DOING THIS EVER SINCE I GOT BANNED
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
by MizzouRugby on Feb 17, 2012 12:23 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Ok, I have to wait for my one day trial period to be over
and that will be done.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
They've made rec-bombing more difficult though.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
wat???
There are three deaths. The first is when the body ceases to function. The second is when the body is consigned to the grave. The third is that moment, sometime in the future, when your name is spoken for the last time.
I believe in the The Black & Gold Standard
nope they switched it back
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
by MizzouRugby on Feb 17, 2012 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, you can go green with just one rec again
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
please do what I mentioned above
it will be epic
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
by MizzouRugby on Feb 17, 2012 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
It will be done
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
Let me know when this goes into action. I can help out
You can't be fat and fast, too; so lift, run, diet and work.
Hank Stram
"Winning isn't everything, but it beats anything that comes in second."
--Paul "Bear" Bryant
by 65 Toss Power Trap83 on Feb 17, 2012 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
Will do hank
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
I guess it wouldn't take long making everything greened...
considering that they avg about 10 comments a day
You can't be fat and fast, too; so lift, run, diet and work.
Hank Stram
"Winning isn't everything, but it beats anything that comes in second."
--Paul "Bear" Bryant
by 65 Toss Power Trap83 on Feb 17, 2012 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
x

"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
by MizzouRugby on Feb 17, 2012 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
I'm too old
that was after my time.
by SEC Supremacist on Feb 17, 2012 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
..

There are three deaths. The first is when the body ceases to function. The second is when the body is consigned to the grave. The third is that moment, sometime in the future, when your name is spoken for the last time.
I believe in the The Black & Gold Standard
"In the darkest depths of Mordor, I met a girl so fair"
Zep definitely did.
Check out the up-and-coming Mizzou blog: http://www.zoulogy.com
"but Golum, and the evil one crept up and slipped away with her
her….her…yeah"
They then had to ROCK their way to save her.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Feb 17, 2012 6:35 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, cuz' once you get there you burn it.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Feb 17, 2012 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
precisely
you have to carry the gasoline, matches, dynamite, etc
by jschooltiger on Feb 17, 2012 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
definitely need to bring your Radio Flyer, to say the least
There are three deaths. The first is when the body ceases to function. The second is when the body is consigned to the grave. The third is that moment, sometime in the future, when your name is spoken for the last time.
I believe in the The Black & Gold Standard
It's easy to forget that the bar to entry for SBN blogs is not as high as the one that the staff here have set.
Their pettiness is delicious.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Feb 17, 2012 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
it's really true
I am also reminded of this on the A&M blog
by jschooltiger on Feb 17, 2012 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed
I forget to thank the admin’s here for all the work they do
So THANK YOU so much Bill C, RPT, Beef, ght, and everybody. All of you should get paid for what you do here, it is that high quality. I just hope a simple thanks is enough
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
by MizzouRugby on Feb 17, 2012 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
Your welcome
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
x
/raises glass in confusion but still acknowledges large contribution
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
by MizzouRugby on Feb 17, 2012 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
And yeah, I know Bill get's paid
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
by MizzouRugby on Feb 17, 2012 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
Meh, leave 'em alone.
So they can continue to see their hits/views per month continue to go down.
Then they can keep writing about how they don’t know why people have stopped visiting.
Don’t even give them the traffic.
At least, this is what I’m doing. Not that you have to follow my suggestion.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Feb 17, 2012 12:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Now that I have been banned, I follow that philosophy
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
by MizzouRugby on Feb 17, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
I never actually post anything so they can't ban me :)
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
I made that mistake....
and I can’t unmake it.
If I were you, I would just randomly rec bomb them some days.
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
by MizzouRugby on Feb 17, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, it's fun to go on other blogs when "soft" troll
when you know they’ll take it in good hearted fun. (ie BHGP) However, RCT? It’s run by people that usually have no thought or insight other than what is popular among their masses. Even their digs are old and stale.
Not everyone other there is like that mind you, but it breeds more disdain than anger from me.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Feb 17, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
I can understand this
It is also why I enjoy nothing more than strolling thru Lawrence wearing all my Mizzou gear. I am all man.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
You aren't entertained by 8 year old Paige Arena jokes?
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
It is strange
KSinDC is perfectly reasonabvle over here. But read his posts over there and he comes across as the worst kind of sanctimonius, puffed up kU fan.
I don't really see that as an issue he respects our blog.
He know’s it’s for MU fans. I think we should do the same.
That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!
I agree
I just dislike people who change their tune according to the audience.
That's what gets me about him too
I’m fine with other fans, even kU ones, I never actually hate the people. But they can’t even take a little bit of rubbing over there when it comes to their fandom.
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
by MizzouRugby on Feb 17, 2012 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
Personally, I find it disingenuous.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Feb 17, 2012 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
KU fan here
“the worst kind of sanctimonious, puffed up kU fan”
I’m sorry, and a bit surprised to hear you say that.
Drewder is right though. I do think that there are of things of interest to KU fans (like Bernie getting our home court record wrong in the P-D article today) that would just be trollish to post over here, and I do try to censor myself for that purpose over here. You guys have a good thing here. I don’t want to ruin it.
But I don’t know what that I’ve posted over there gets me this sort of description.
Nothing in my opinion
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
I don't go to RCT
but you seem like a solid guy, even for a kU fan.
by jschooltiger on Feb 17, 2012 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
I don't go overthere anymore...
you’re cool here.
You’re good in my book.
/doesn’t actually have book.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Feb 17, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
well, i'll be the honest one.
i don’t care for your company.
Genesis 1:1
by threadkiller on Feb 17, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
...I was honest with mine too.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Feb 17, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
i meant contrary. sorry, egon.
Genesis 1:1
by threadkiller on Feb 17, 2012 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
No problem....I was trying to fake hurt feelings...
you still need to give me back my backpack! I saw that post with you stealing my backpack!
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Feb 17, 2012 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
no, i had your back.
i told rugby how he shouldn’t mess with a guy that has one of those (you). :-)
Genesis 1:1
by threadkiller on Feb 17, 2012 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
Good times....
until you cross streams that is.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Feb 17, 2012 4:56 PM CST up reply actions
RCT said
“Missouri gets to go to StL in the mock bracket. Rewarding them for that tough schedule. Wait what..”
RMN responded. “8-0 vs RPI Top 50”
RCT- “RPI? adorable.”
RMN “9-1 vs. Pomeroy Top 50”
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
by MizzouRugby on Feb 17, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
lol I wonder if he realizes that photo was taken during halftime of a beaker game
Jake Heaps @jtheaps9
Can’t wait to play in there!! #ROCKCHALKJAYHAWK pic.twitter.com/QXKPxtRp
There are three deaths. The first is when the body ceases to function. The second is when the body is consigned to the grave. The third is that moment, sometime in the future, when your name is spoken for the last time.
I believe in the The Black & Gold Standard
by Logan Hill on Feb 17, 2012 12:49 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
No I think that was from senior day/spirit day
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
by MizzouRugby on Feb 17, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
One of the busiest homecomings
kU has had in years.
by MizKC on Feb 17, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Obviously not the Sunflower Showdown
Not enough purple.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
I found this hilarious and awesome
Derek Holland does Will Ferrell’s Harry Caray during local weather
There are three deaths. The first is when the body ceases to function. The second is when the body is consigned to the grave. The third is that moment, sometime in the future, when your name is spoken for the last time.
I believe in the The Black & Gold Standard
Did you see the comment from 1 hour ago?
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
oh my
good thing my liver is used to taking a few punches
There are three deaths. The first is when the body ceases to function. The second is when the body is consigned to the grave. The third is that moment, sometime in the future, when your name is spoken for the last time.
I believe in the The Black & Gold Standard
I actually laughed harder at that than the video
although the video was funny.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
if there's one thing more ridiculous than kU fans
it’s Youtube comments
There are three deaths. The first is when the body ceases to function. The second is when the body is consigned to the grave. The third is that moment, sometime in the future, when your name is spoken for the last time.
I believe in the The Black & Gold Standard
ha better than his WS performance..
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
by MizzouRugby on Feb 17, 2012 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
this is just an outstanding rant
I thoroughly agree.
by jschooltiger on Feb 17, 2012 1:32 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I agree with almost all of that
I also think its no coincidence that indy movies have taken off in recent years as ticket prices have continued to sky rocket. we can still get great content without dropping 150 million dollars.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
further, look at who you're dealing with
WB, Fox, Paramount (or Viacomm) were at one time not only the owners of the movie rights, but of the actors themselves. Hell, to become an actor, you had to be a wage-slave on set half the time (see John Wayne). Now adays they can’t own the actors (thanks to the union) and furthermore, have to pay 30 million just to get them to play the part. Of course, you need to drop 150 million on CGI, because it’s easier than hiring a union stuntman to do something for you. Then you not only want but EXPECT consumers to buy DVD…not just Blue-Ray, but DVD’s too, a format that should have gone the way of betamax, but you refuse to. What’s more, you insist that it’s all worth $25 for the Blue-Ray, the DVD, AND A DIGITAL DOWNLOAD THAT’S KEPT IN THE CLOUD. AND OH, NETFLIX, YOU’RE DOING SOMETHING SMART AND RUNNING AN ONLINE RENTAL STORE?!? NOPE, CAN’T HAVE THAT CAUSE YOU DON’T NEED TO BUY AS MANY DISKS THAT WAY! AND THIS STREAMING CONTENT? VIEWING WHEN THEY WANT TO?!? OH, HELL NO! WHY SHOULD THE CONSUMER ACTUALLY GET TO WATCH SOMETHING ON THEIR OWN TIME? GET IN THE MOVIE THEATHER, AND BUY THAT OVERPRICED TUB OF SATURATED FAT!! THERE’S A CONSPIRACY TO MAINTAIN HERE!
Upholding fine Mizzou traditions in Maryland.
MvP, RoC official Nemesis
And what's the deal with airline peanuts?
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
by Gaknar on Feb 17, 2012 2:03 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Having worked at AMC theatres corporate for a bit
I can tell you this is not the theaters fault. On bigger movies like the Harry Potter’s and alot of the 3D movies, they actually lose money on the ticket sales. The distributor sets the price for those and the theater can choose to charge the customer more of less depending on the market. The popcorn has to be 140 bucks per tub for the theater to make any money at all.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 17, 2012 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
ah, 3-D
what a colossal waste of time, effort, and money. how many movies had been better with 3-D? Avatar was awesome…and what else? It’s like the DVD thing. Movie studios do not get it when something just does work, or is past it’s prime.
Upholding fine Mizzou traditions in Maryland.
MvP, RoC official Nemesis
I've checked out the demo units at best buy or wherever
watched both soccer and football.. pretty neat but it would drive me crazy to watch it for more than like a minute in one sitting
There are three deaths. The first is when the body ceases to function. The second is when the body is consigned to the grave. The third is that moment, sometime in the future, when your name is spoken for the last time.
I believe in the The Black & Gold Standard
this is not true.
just an old wives’ tale.
Genesis 1:1
by threadkiller on Feb 17, 2012 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
An old wives tale for a couple of years old technology?
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
3-d a couple years old?
surely you jest.
Genesis 1:1
by threadkiller on Feb 17, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
Piranhas 3-D was better because it was in 3-D
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
Spot on
I’ve been arguing this for years – music, books, movies, etc. The most disingenuous argument is about the cost of piracy. Their assumption is that every pirated copy would have been bought at full retail. Umm, no. If people were willing to pay that for it, they would have paid that. They assume price inelasticity of demand, when in actuality the demand curve is extremely elastic in terms of dollars, pain, etc.
The proof of all of this is iTunes. Make it easy and malware free for people to get just the music they want and no other cruft, and they will do so.

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