A Modest Proposal: Ignore Doug Gottlieb
by D-Sing on Feb 18, 2012 9:24 PM CST
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PrintOne of the reasons I am proud to be a member of this internet community here at Rock M Nation is that we are, for the most part, level headed about most matters. We can recognize the flaws that our teams possess, and can be critical in our assessment of those flaws.
We also are fiercely proud of our teams when they do well. And I think it is natural for us to become defensive of our teams when they are doing well, yet we perceive that they are being harangued and knocked down by outsiders. I get that. I really do.
However, I would like to offer up a suggestion that will make things easier for everyone by keeping our mouths and fingers in check, keep our blood pressure low, and make the next 4-6 weeks a completely pleasureable experience.
It will be hard. It will be one of the hardest things I am asking the community to do:
Ignore Doug Gottlieb.
I do not need to introduce you to Mr. Gottlieb's work; I believe most people around here are well acquainted with his body of work past and present, from the credit card incident to the horrendous free throw shooting to his current role for the four letter sports network based in the middle of Connecticut.
He is an easy target, and I guess that his brutal honesty is not something that we, well, "appreciate" as Tiger Fans. But I do think that we should find a new go-to person to mock. In part because by feeding Gottlieb on Twitter, we don't do our program and ourselves any good. It's not like he's going to change his mind about our program or players.
Which is why I call for a moratorium on Gottlieb talk. I don't mean ignore him only when he says bad things about our Tigers.
I mean ignore him completely. Total blackout. Good, bad, or indifferent commentary should be summarily dismissed and not acknowledged by Tiger fans at all.
Whether he agrees or disagrees with charge calls that go our way, or whether he believes that Phil Pressey has become the best point guard in college basketball since Pistol Pete Maravich, just...ignore everything that comes out of his mouth on telecasts, in the studio or on his radio show/appearances.
I think the time can be better spent, no?
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Good idea
Except he’s doing our game on Tues. Could be a bit difficult to ignore him there haha
/justmakingajoke
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Does this only apply to twitter?
You don’t even want us correctly pointing out that he’s a douche here?
Never forget Wolf Island, or pie! #AHAMF, it's vaguely sordid.
And, while you're at it...
Extend that to any sports talk radio hosts in Kansas City.
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by RPT on Feb 19, 2012 6:38 AM CST reply actions 4 recs
I didn't necessarily mean that universally...
But the complaining about KC hosts saying disparaging things about Missouri during conference realignment was brutal.
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Why ignore?
It doesn’t particularly bother me that Gottlieb is an ESPN-paid troll when it comes to Mizzou. Any attention is good attention, at least people are talking about Mizzou basketball for once.
I personally find it funny that he (and KC radio hosts) keep getting pwned by the play of this team. It’s quality entertainment!
Proud Meth Aggie since 2011.
I say ignore
because to me, the best way to treat a troll of any kind is to starve it.
Especially ones in media. No eyeballs, ears or twitter retorts are exactly what they can’t handle.
And I do consider him to be a troll in the same vein as Cowherd. Those two are cut from the same cloth.
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by D-Sing on Feb 19, 2012 12:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not on Twitter, but if I were I would send Doug recipes without comment.
Never forget Wolf Island, or pie! #AHAMF, it's vaguely sordid.
by Spider_Monkey on Feb 19, 2012 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
I should read on before I retort. :-)
Good call, Spider.
"Success is not owned. It's rented, and you have to pay rent every day."
-Frank Haith
except cowherd at least has an area he knows well.
he knows his college football. gottlieb professes to be a basketball expert, but falls woefully short.
Genesis 1:1
by threadkiller on Feb 19, 2012 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
Cowherd knows nothing.
His comments on black athletes are nothing short of racist
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
What comments?
I can say I’ve ever heard him say anything that borders on racism?
"...I'm not trying to act giddy but the guy is a stud.'' - Terry McDonough, Director of Player Personnel, Jacksonville Jaguars
Read between the lines
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
maybe. but i think he knows his college football.
doesn’t mean i’ll listen to him talk about anything else.
Genesis 1:1
by threadkiller on Feb 20, 2012 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
FIFY
because to me, the best way to treat a troll of any kind is to teach it to feed itself
Instead of trolling Gottlieb back, we should all flood his Twitter account with recipes.
"Success is not owned. It's rented, and you have to pay rent every day."
-Frank Haith
I've been surprised by all the hate when he has actually been pretty complimentary
of Mizzou. He said that both Mizzou and KU could end up #1 seeds since he expected some fall off from other contenders, which we saw yesterday (e.g. “The” Ohio State University).He has also said that Mizzou could go far in the tournament with its style. If we do not ignore him, at least we can stop wasting our hate on him. There is plenty to criticize about many sports commentators.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
Timely post. Good idea.
"Gentlemen, this is a football."-Vince Lombardi
"Slow down coach, you're going too fast."-Max McGee
Who?
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
Rocky Balboa once told me, "Nothing is real if you don't believe in who you are."
by Kpz1234 on Feb 19, 2012 12:44 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
I listen to ESPN radio too and from work
and sometime when I’m at work. If I hear Doug Gotlieb on I turn it off. I won’t listen to his show unless someone is filling in and I"ll turn other shows off if he is guest hosting or a guest. I just don’t like him and think he is a professional troll. I have felt like this even before I realized he was “fighting” with MU fans. It’s safe to say I’ve been ignoring him for years.
so you listen to his show quite a bit then?
i do, because he’s seldom on it. although the two buffoons that fill in don’t know their knuckles from their eyebrows.
Genesis 1:1
by threadkiller on Feb 19, 2012 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
Seems like about once per week
It’s on when I am traveling home from work. If I hear his voice I turn it though. :)
No
1) Like it or not, it’s part of the narrative. Because of the national platform people like Gottlieb has, they can influence that narrative. The Mizzou athletic department thought that they could ignore the narrative during the Big Ten expansion fiasco and it damaged the reputation of the university as a result.
2) Gottlieb and such are not internet trolls, they are (right or wrong) influential people (see above). Ignoring Gottlieb doesn’t starve the beast. He’s still getting paid by ESPN, he still has 49,000 followers, and (I know this is difficult to believe) there are a hundred other college basketball fanbases who don’t care how Missouri fans feel about Gottlieb. Any boycott is utterly meaningless.
3) It’s entertaining. Gottlieb is only a troll if people get upset at him. Take him for what he is, a decent former player with a big mouth who doesn’t know as much about the sport as he thinks he does. Mockery is a much more effective tool than a boycott (see: Craig James).
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
by Gaknar on Feb 19, 2012 2:57 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
So Gottlieb is the cult leader of 49,000 followers?
I wonder who those idiots are, besides fake accounts of his family members.
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
Rocky Balboa once told me, "Nothing is real if you don't believe in who you are."
40% only follow to mock him, as he has no redeeming value.
Never forget Wolf Island, or pie! #AHAMF, it's vaguely sordid.
by Spider_Monkey on Feb 19, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
"a decent former player" ?
Ha ha, you are a very generous person. If I worked with you I would want you to draw my name for the Christmas party gift exchange every single year! Very generous indeed.
as much as i hate to give props to gottlieb,
the guy was an assists machine. he was definitely at least decent.
Genesis 1:1
by threadkiller on Feb 19, 2012 4:47 PM CST up reply actions
He was the only pure point guard to ever play college bball
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
by Gaknar on Feb 19, 2012 5:23 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Paul Pressey could've learned so much from him.
Never forget Wolf Island, or pie! #AHAMF, it's vaguely sordid.
by Spider_Monkey on Feb 19, 2012 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
Likewise, nothing we do can influence what Gottlieb does
save for making him even more entrenched with the “Mizzou fans are lunatics” nonsense. There’s a line between “lol Gottlieb is trolling about charges again” and “CAN YOU BELIEVE WHAT GOTTLIEB JUST SAID ABOUT MIZZOU?”, and I think we’ve seen it crossed a few times in recent weeks. Like was brought up elsewhere, he’s been plenty complimentary of Mizzou at various times, so there’s little need for an ongoing “Gottlieb hates Mizzou” meme. He’s an idiot, he’s not an idiot out to get any particular team at the expense of his non-existent objectivity.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Feb 19, 2012 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
I'm with Gak
although I suggest that Mizzou fans stop Tweeting him and fueling his opinion, we should be able to make fun of him on here as much as we want without hearing RMNers say to leave it alone. If Gottlieb is insecure enough about his perception to seek out an SBN blog and see what we’re saying, that’s on him.
by CBonerfied on Feb 21, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
So apparently I don't pay enough attention...
why does Gottlieb apparently hate Mizzou? I mean, besides playing against them for 3 years at Okie State?
because of you and me, supposedly.
We’re an irrational, stupid fanbase.
Never forget Wolf Island, or pie! #AHAMF, it's vaguely sordid.
by Spider_Monkey on Feb 19, 2012 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
it's been escalating.
he says dumb things, we make fun of him for it relentlessly, then he fires back with whining like the tweets about Steve’s charge, etc.
"I try to shoot shots that I know are going to go in."
-Marcus Denmon
It started last year
when he called the Mizzou game and then spent the second half acting as producer in the truck, screwing up the camera angles and just being annoying. Then he started complaining that Phil Pressey is not a true point guard. Now it’s flopping. His complaints are too silly to get mad about, but it seems to get under his skin when people rightly mock him for being silly.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
Since he tendancy was to steal charge cards, it ironic he has a problem with MU taking charges.
Never forget Wolf Island, or pie! #AHAMF, it's vaguely sordid.
by Spider_Monkey on Feb 19, 2012 5:33 PM CST up reply actions 8 recs
ha, his tendancy, it is ironic ^^
i didn
Never forget Wolf Island, or pie! #AHAMF, it's vaguely sordid.
by Spider_Monkey on Feb 19, 2012 5:34 PM CST up reply actions
even more ironic? "tendency." ;-)
Genesis 1:1
by threadkiller on Feb 19, 2012 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
Gottlieb needs to hear we hate him....
He makes it known he does not like us…we dont need to bring up the credit cards etc but we can talk and yell at him about how much we hate him. He does not give us the respect we deserve so why should we be respectful of him. No need to bring up the past just chant Mizzou hates Gottlieb or something
I don't think your brand of fandom and this site go together
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
by MizzouRugby on Feb 22, 2012 9:10 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
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