Mizzou Links, 2-21-12
by Bill C. on Feb 21, 2012 5:12 AM CST
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Happy gameday!
Mizzou Basketball Links
- K-State
MUtigers.com: No. 3 Mizzou Hosts K-State Tuesday
Post-Dispatch: MU tries to avenge loss as big week begins - Don't Look Ahead
The Trib: First things first for MU, KU
The Trib (Steve Walentik): Haith on Matt Pressey's ankle, Kim English's value and not looking ahead to KUOn what Kansas State did in the first meeting (a 75-59 loss) that other teams haven’t …
“They took us out to the woodshed. They whipped us. Simple as that. They physically dominated the game, and they physically dominated us, on the glass, in all aspects of the game. It was a butt-whupping.
On if that result makes it easier not to peek ahead to Saturday’s game at Kansas …
“I don’t think this team has done that at all, all year. I think this team has been focused on the task at hand, and I’m real proud at how they’ve stayed focused. We understand this. There’s no doubt that K-State can come in here and whip up just like they whipped us in Manhattan if we’re not ready to play. We’ve got to be ready to play, and it’s going to take a yeomen’s effort for us to beat K-State, even in our own house. They’re that type of team that can really take us out and be very physical with us.”
- Polls
The Missourian: Missouri holds at No. 3 in polls
KC Star: MU third, KU fifth in coaches' poll - Flip
KC Star: MU's Phil Pressey has gift for stealing the ball
Other Basketball Links
- BU > UT
Austin American-Statesman: Bears catch Horns, pull away at the end - RPI
SI.com (Seth Davis): Dissecting college hoops' most maligned metric
SEC
- The Alden Manifesto
The Trib: Alden outlines changes in letter to fans
The Missourian: SEC to bring significant changes to Missouri athletics, Memorial Stadium
KC Star: Alden outlines MU's preparations for SEC football in letter - PowerMizzou: SEC Spring Preview: Georgia
Other Mizzou Links
- Mizzou Baseball
MUtigers.com: Dane Opel Named Big 12 Player of the Week
MUtigers.com: Mizzou Baseball Players of the Week: Week One
SimmonsField.com: HI NOTES: Tiger-Hawks, War Eagles, Crow - Mizzou Women's Basketball
MUtigers.com: Missouri Faces Iowa State on Tuesday
MUtigers.com: Morgan Eye Named Big 12 Freshman of the Week
The Missourian: Missouri freshmen making mark in recent games - Mizzou Soccer
MUtigers.com: Bryan Blitz to Assist U-23 U.S. National Team in Four Nations Tournament - Mizzou Women's Golf
MUtigers.com: Tigers Finish Second at Claud Jacobs Challenge
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Wow: The Communist Manifesto was published on February 21st, 1848
and “it laid out the League’s purposes and program. It presents an analytical approach to the class struggle (historical and present) and the problems of capitalism, rather than a prediction of communism’s potential future forms.”
It appears that naming it the “Alden Manifesto” is not as far off as I originally believed.
If you want to be all purist about it
nobody has ever really tried communism (in any organization with more than a few hundred people). What the USSR, China and Cuba pulled off is not even really close to what Marx had in mind.
But then if you have a similarly exact definition of capitalism (all free trade with no restrictions at whatsoever), the only places that are currently pulling it off are ones like Mogadishu, where there literally are NO rules at all.
/poli sci’d.
not to be outdone, the manifesto is soon to be followed by
“My Struggle” by B. Pelini
by JC-Mizzou on Feb 21, 2012 6:19 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions 15 recs
Maybe you should get some Denmoney
for that.
by tigers and chiefs fan on Feb 21, 2012 7:32 AM CST up reply actions
all the daily workers should get an equal share of denmoney.
Genesis 1:1
by threadkiller on Feb 21, 2012 7:47 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
except for those with political connections to the ruling class
which should get 1000 times the daily worker
/communisminpractice’d
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Some conferences are more equal than others.
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by RPT on Feb 21, 2012 8:08 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Wait till the little dictator hears about this...
He may help burn down Bryant-Denny and blame it on corndogs.
by SEC Supremacist on Feb 21, 2012 8:57 AM CST up reply actions
How dare he disparage corn dogs!
Meat on a stick is what makes this country great!
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#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 21, 2012 9:00 AM CST up reply actions
leave it to the barner
To attack a superior / more successful system to draw attention away from the excesses of wanton capitalism that exists on the plains
by JC-Mizzou on Feb 21, 2012 9:09 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
/sees millions dead in the swamps of Louisiana
Yeah… more successful…
by SEC Supremacist on Feb 21, 2012 9:13 AM CST up reply actions
bullocks, you found my spot...
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If Texas isn't careful
They’ll find themselves as a 5 seed come tourney time, albeit the best 11 loss five seed of all time.
by CBonerfied on Feb 21, 2012 6:58 AM CST via mobile reply actions
If they beat kU the last game of the season they can have a 2 seed as far as I'm concerned.
However, I’d also appreciate it if they’d beat kU and still not make the tournament at all.
And they'll play a good 12-seed
most likely from the Big East. All sources point to doom.
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Doom, only because
of the injustice of Texas only being a 5 and the Big East getting a 12 seed. It’ll be the best tourney game in history.
Go Tigers!
Let’s WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by tigers and chiefs fan on Feb 21, 2012 7:32 AM CST reply actions
I hear they are going to use the old turf from Faurot Field to enforce the DMZ between North and South Korea.
by Fullback U on Feb 21, 2012 7:54 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
most likely
the old turf goes to a small area HS that uses the Tiger logo (or switches too it).
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Give it to an alabam HS. Let Saban worry about it.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 21, 2012 8:38 AM CST up reply actions
They have high schools in north korea, right?
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 21, 2012 8:37 AM CST up reply actions
Toga's?
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 21, 2012 8:52 AM CST up reply actions
Gonna have to watch the game at work tonight.
Things could get interesting.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 21, 2012 8:41 AM CST reply actions
And some less than good ones.
I’m sorry, Seth D., but margin of victory is incredibly predictive and evaluative, whether we want it to be or not.
But wait: Isn’t beating a good team by 20 points more impressive than beating a bad team by one? Of course. That’s why the members of the committee are free to take that into account when they burrow into the details. In fact, the committee members are free to take any factor into account. And they do. But to replace the RPI with a formula that explicitly incorporates scoring margin? There are some pretty bad ideas about how to improve this process, but this one is by far the worst.
OR … we can start from a better starting point (a formula that includes MOV), and the committee members can be “free to take that into account” and punish run-it-up teams thusly.
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by Bill C. on Feb 21, 2012 8:49 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
you finally update this blog
and start with you far-fetched made up predictive stats.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
I didn't agree with the whole article
especially the part about predicting tourney success. That’s the whole purpose of Pomeroy and Sagarin ratings, right? (Side note: use these as a tool when picking your brackets. Not exclusively, but refer to them. Your wallet might end up thanking you.)
But I agree with him that using those systems for tournament selection/seeding purposes would be incredibly unfair to teams that have achieved wins on the court that the numbers say they shouldn’t have. Good luck, closing ability, whatever you want to call it…it doesn’t put an asterisk next to the victory in the win column, which it can in efficiency ratings. Conversely, someone should tell this guy (http://basketballpredictions.blogspot.com/2012/02/w-3-bp68.html) that a close loss to a good team doesn’t make it less of a loss compared to teams that actually win games. (Shameless taunting penalty on this guy…I should stop laughing at his bracket, but he is so stubborn that it is hilarious.)
I had forgotten that a team can only directly affect 25 percent of its RPI rating by winning. The rest seems to be dependent on conference affiliation and good (lucky) non-conference scheduling. There has to be a way to tweak the formula.
no matter how much research i do,
i’ve yet to defeat the girl whose picks are based on how much she likes their uniforms.
Genesis 1:1
by threadkiller on Feb 21, 2012 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I used to pick teams based on how much I liked their names.
yeah, I was that guy. Now it’s typically inverse to their football aptitude.
by SEC Supremacist on Feb 21, 2012 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
Nope
Though I did once pick Gonzaga.
by SEC Supremacist on Feb 21, 2012 10:00 AM CST up reply actions
so how did you deal with the Ohio St./Florida issue.
That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!
I'm a college hoops junkie
Who’s ran pools and been in pools every year since I was in high school (15 plus years now). It always, always pissed me off when I’d lose to family members who know jack. I had never won a pool until two years ago…when I referred to Pomeroy rankings to help break ties. The whole world was picking Kentucky and ku to go all the way, and no one was giving Duke its due. I won every pool I entered that year.
Cool story, bro.
yeah buddy
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 21, 2012 9:57 AM CST up reply actions
The only pool I ever won was in the math and statistics department during
the 1989-90 season and like the homer I was, I picked Mizzou to win it all yet they lost in the first round to UNI and I still ended up winning the pool.
"Myself and my teammates are a bunch of winners," ~ Marcus Denmon
The job of the committee isn't to predict success in the tournament
The job of the committee is to reward deserving teams based on their accomplishments over the course of the season.
I use predictive rankings as a tool when filling out my bracket (and so should you), but that is not the committee’s job.
I agree wholeheartedly
I think writers like Davis just don’t understand basic statistics: including more information that explains additional variability is ALWAYS a good thing. Using a crude measure because that’s the only thing that makes sense to you is not.
If you’re so worried about people running up the score, then tell everybody that there’s a cap on scoring margin, say 25 points. And, if people are still worried that people will get their feelings hurt, well too bad. What’s worse: some basketball players playing at the highest collegiate level get beat badly in a game, or deserving teams are left out of the tournament because people were too afraid to use perfectly good data that would have provided the case for their rightful inclusion? It’s a no brainer.
My problem is with the KenPom luck factor
I don’t care whether a result was lucky or not. I care about the result.
To me, the basic problem is that the RPI doesn't make sense.
It arbitrarily weights its constituent factors (whether it overweights them or underweights them, who knows?). And then they’ve built an entire analytical edifice based on it which infiltrates the entire month of February and early March. It’s just annoying. I agree the committee gets the field right or mostly right, but it’s the seedings that are jacked.
"I try to shoot shots that I know are going to go in."
-Marcus Denmon
Our b-ball team is beating up on everyone, but
it’s fun to point out that Mizzou is 7-0 vs. the SWC this season, and 6-1 vs. members of the Pac-16.
Oh, and the Forgotten Five reside in the top five spots in the Big 12 standings.
by CBonerfied on Feb 21, 2012 9:15 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Except when OU and Texas are winning
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 21, 2012 9:18 AM CST up reply actions
Knew*
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 21, 2012 9:24 AM CST up reply actions
So David Ubben thinks Mizzou never would have won the Big East in football
Even though UConn and Cincinnati did. Ok.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
well that should shut up all the "Ubben is a homer" statements.
That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!
Oh no...
…Jay Norvell has no idea how Twitter works.
@RickySealsJones This is Coach Jay Norvell from Oklahoma. Cel (405) 431-9954 Would like to offer you a Full Scholarship to Oklahoma.Call me!
— Jay Norvell (@CoachJayNorvell) February 21, 2012
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It's...
beautiful!
/AnthonyWeiner’d
//AntlersEngage
by SEC Supremacist on Feb 21, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
And since he's SURE to delete it at some point...
…here’s the tweet with formatting removed:
@RickySealsJones This is Coach Jay Norvell from Oklahoma. Cel (405) 431-9954 Would like to offer you a Full Scholarship to Oklahoma.Call me!
That’s him telling five-star receiver Ricky Seals-Jones to call him, using the general conversation feature in Twitter instead of DM.
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And Bud files the story...
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Haha
This is awesome. Social networking has allowed us to see people screw up sooo much more. And were all better off for it.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 21, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
Good thing it wasn't around when you were dating, right?
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
Myspace was going strong then
and yeah, I was made a fool more than once. Just getting used to the internet while being highly intoxicated at all times was an “interesting situation”
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 21, 2012 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
I have said numerous times
if cell phones were around when I was in college (let alone twitter or facebook), I would be in a worse place in my life.
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I see no way in which this cunning plan could fail.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
So which of you will be the first fake RSJ to call him?
by SEC Supremacist on Feb 21, 2012 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
I think you are using the incorrect tense.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
by mizzou2396 on Feb 21, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah.
was giving yall benefit of the doubt.
by SEC Supremacist on Feb 21, 2012 12:04 PM CST up reply actions
I called him pretending to be Chuck Neinas and told him how selfish he was.
/not really FBI
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
I think they're keeping an eye on BST
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
theyre all a bunch of haters
hatin on my game
hatin on my school
hatin on my drunkenness
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 21, 2012 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
If you were a Fed, wouldn't you be here?
I sure would.
"Myself and my teammates are a bunch of winners," ~ Marcus Denmon
weird al posted this...
telling people to guess which show he’s going to be on.
That show has gone wacky. I really wonder if Kenneth is going to burn the place down in the end.
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30 rock
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 21, 2012 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
I thought it was 3rd Rock From The Sun
You mean that isn’t John Lithgow? Maybe I need some new spectacles.
BST
“Operation Green Out”…will it happen during up coming hate week?
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
Forgot to write it in Morse code!
… … – / .- .. .-.. .-.. / - .—. . .-. .- – .. - . / -. .-. . . . / -- ..- – / …. .- .—. .—. . . / -.. .. .-. .. . -. / – …. . / ..- .—. / .. - - .. -. -. / …. .- – . / .— . . .
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
It will
We will coordinate here, and then drop a wonderful hate bomb.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 21, 2012 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
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"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
We landed on the moon!?!?
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 21, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
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"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
Ah, we blew up the moon because a kU researched claimed it had numerous jayhawk shaped craters.
This makes more sense.
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 21, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
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copy and decode here
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
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I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
#CakeForLife
by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 21, 2012 1:53 PM CST up reply actions
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by Ausgiano on Feb 21, 2012 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Guess we have to take our toys and go home...
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
KU fan here
Obviously, you guys get to make your own decisions, but I don’t really understand this behavior.
On RMN, I read complaints of how rude, stupid, childish, etc KU fans are. I read how rude, stupid, childish fans on Tigerboard are. And then I read plans to go rec everything on RCT and I read posts that refuse to capitalize Kansas.
my advice?
stop reading what BST (Dutch) and Rugby (he needs a nickname too) write. Then your positive experience will be increased by 50
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I'm actually fine skipping comments
(although BST generally entertains me greatly)
It’s the actual rec-bombing, not the comments planning it, that detract from my SBN experience.
I apologize for detracting from your experience. That is not my intentions at all.
I know that I can be a bit crude at times and rarely have the filter that would be suitable for the situation, but I sincerely do not want to take away from the work that good people have done on these sites. I wont rec-bomb RCT. If there were a way to rec-bomb my wife in real life, I would attempt it.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 21, 2012 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
This should be good
How does rec bombing detract from your experience?
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
Because I don't have time to read every post
So lots of times I just ctrl-f to the rec’d ones.
I figured that was the point of the rec feature.
you don't have time to read every post
but yet you always know what we are saying over here AND what RCT is saying over there?
Quite impressive.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
Agreed
very surprised he/she could instantly remember the joke I made about wanting to get banned from RCT
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
I mainly ctrl-f for terms over here
If you quizzed me on who chose cake and who chose cake, I don’t think I could answer a single one confidently.
I’m generally just looking here for comments about KU so it’s just those comments I read.
by KSinDC on Feb 21, 2012 2:42 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
so if you ctrl-f to find stuff
how would the green thing influence how you read it at all?
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
by mizzou2396 on Feb 21, 2012 2:43 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I ctrl-f for the word "recs"
I don’t care whether something is green.
by KSinDC on Feb 21, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
So at worse...
you would have to read every comment? Which, compared to here, is a very very small amount
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
by MizzouRugby on Feb 21, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Oh now you screwed him all up
Advocating for the "Snarkbone" since 2012
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by The Beef on Feb 21, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm trying but I am having a very hard time finding pity for the guy.
If he doesn’t like to read negative opinions of Kansas fans, I suggest he go back to RCT where they shield him from any of that.
"Myself and my teammates are a bunch of winners," ~ Marcus Denmon
Given all the tools available on SBN for navigating threads
that seems to be an incredibly inefficient way to read comments.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
You asked how it detracted and I answered
Plus, none of the SBN tools work if you’re using the browser on the iPad like I am.
SNARKBONE.
you’re familiar with the term, i assume.
Genesis 1:1
by threadkiller on Feb 21, 2012 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
He'll have to ctrl-f it
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
You didn't give a good answer
We’ve rec bombed ourselves before and somehow we managed to survive. I’ve yet to hear why it should engender anything more than eye rolling.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
I don't need help. I already know how to scan comments.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
considering you are holding at few conversations here
on a Tuesday at 4:00, it seems like you are overstating the amount of time you have available.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
by mizzou2396 on Feb 21, 2012 2:51 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
When I've got automated processes running updating my databases, I've got tons of time
Unfortunately, other days/weeks I have no such opportunities
by KSinDC on Feb 21, 2012 2:54 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Really?
In my experience, there are far more posts here than there and you seem to have no problem finding references to yourself or to RCT in these giant thread. Moreover, when your site is set to green a comment with one rec, you aren’t exactly going to get the cream of the crop anyway.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
then I propose a new signature for all of my RMN brethren and ,, us sistern
It's the new rec-bombing! Rec 1 rec 2 recs 3 recs 4 recs
by BigMOman on Feb 21, 2012 2:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Not that I condone the rec-bombing,
but that seems like a bit of false equivalency.
by Babbalynski on Feb 21, 2012 2:07 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I didn't mean to suggest that RMN is on a par with Tigerboard or the comments section on the Star
Just that it seems like if you value what makes RMN better than those places, it seems counter-productive to open it up to the same sorts of criticisms.
I know that Owen, the manager of RCT, has written some of the people engaged in rec-bombing asking them to refrain. I don’t know if he’s written Rugby or BST.
I certainly don’t want to make any broad based indictment of RMN. You guys have a great site here and have generally been very hospitable to me.
by KSinDC on Feb 21, 2012 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I was not written
I never rec bombed any post on RCT, nor did I say anything worth banning.
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
by MizzouRugby on Feb 21, 2012 2:21 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know for sure since I don't have any say in the running of RCT
But I know that you’d repeatedly stated on RMN your intention to get banned on RCT. There are a bunch of us from there that read posts on here (no matter who you’re a fan of, posts like D-Sing’s one this week on the charge/block rule are worth reading) so it may have been per-emptive as much as anything. Or maybe your first rec was wrongly interpreted as being part of rec bombing. I don’t know.
by KSinDC on Feb 21, 2012 2:30 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
But when I did comment over there, I was not hostile
and was respectful with only a light amount of ribbing. And I was not banned as soon as I did post, it was two days after. I think you and whoever read my comment on wanting to be banned from RCT missed my sarcasm, which is understandable because it is the internet. I am just upset that I was banned for nothing more than posting, and the timing of it seemed as if though it was an impulse thing, upset that you guys had lost.
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
by MizzouRugby on Feb 21, 2012 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I've e-mailed the site managers before on behalf of RMNers whose bans I thought were unjust
I’ll send them an e-mail with this thread. I think they’ll reinstate you.
by KSinDC on Feb 21, 2012 2:43 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That was equally unexpected and appreciated
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
by MizzouRugby on Feb 21, 2012 2:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
While you're at it
can you ban Andrew Clark?
"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."
by BigMOman on Feb 21, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I've never even posted a commet over there but I did rec a few comments
from Beakers bashing their own team but it was far from rec bombing. I was banned though without ever posting a comment and no, Owen never asked me to refrain. I do not feel pity for the guy here whatsoever. I think he should go back to his own board and criticize MU because Tiger fans sure don’t sport that same luxury in return.
"Myself and my teammates are a bunch of winners," ~ Marcus Denmon
Hmm..
First- I was banned on RCT for no apparent reason. So I cannot really do anything/stop anything from happening.
Second- not capitalizing the k is a tradition for MU fans, and if you want to whine about it go ahead, but I doubt you will find any sympathy for it.
Third- I actually thought about doing something like this earlier during the football season, and was very wisely advised to me that whatever we do to RCT, they can very easily do right back. I actually do not think that it will happen, but if it does, it is not attacking your school/traditions/person/history/team. It’s simply making a joke about the (in my opinion) dumb and illogical rationalization that money is the real reason why you kU is ending the rivalry.
Fourth-I for one greatly respect the work that Bill provides for free here, and I would not want to cast this site in a bad light. If my perspective (that is is a harmless joke) is off, then so be it, and I hope an admin here says no. I just think that it is these little jokes that make being a colleg sports fan fun, and I do think that a stupid little internet joke is far better than any physical/destructive/harmful prank in real life.
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
so many typos
so little time
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
not to heap on
but I really don’t see how refusing to capitalize the k in kU is offensive or rude. It is clearly being done in jest and has a very minimal effect on the reader. Compared to the profane, insulting and demeaning terms I see thrown around, kU seems remarkably tame.
You're right that these are all minor problems
It seems that refusing to capitalize Kansas is intended to cause offense and offense is taken, but only a minor amount is intended and only a minor amount is taken.
And as Rugby points out above, the worst result of rec-bombing is I have to read every comment or miss a couple comments I might have liked to read if I don’t have the time to read everything. Hardly the end of the world.
Still, it seemed inconsistent with what this site generally aspires to, and the annoyances, though minor, are real. So I questioned it.
it is, and i'm sure bill will give us all a good tongue lashing tomorrow.
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by threadkiller on Feb 21, 2012 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
If he's still fighting off the Rally Baby Flu, we should be safe.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
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"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
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"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
Partly becaus of me being a douche-nozzle things have gotten a bit down on here
As a penance i give you this:
Cinnamon Toast Crunch Cupcakes!
http://bsinthekitchen.com/cinnamon-toast-crunch-cupcakes/
I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 21, 2012 3:03 PM CST reply actions
I've got a few fat caps I've cut off of pork butts before roasting them
It seems a waste to waste all that delicious pork fat, but I don’t really know what to do with them. Any ideas aside from just rendering the fat and saving it for cooking greens?
The rendering is all I can really think of.
You could probly use it as a base for a good gravy or for a soup/stew also.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 21, 2012 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
How would one go about listening to Mike Kelly call tonight's game via the internet?
If one wanted to avoid being Gottlieb’d?
I'm going to be stuck watching the game on espn3 with the volume off.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 21, 2012 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
nothing like watching gottlieb watch the game.
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by threadkiller on Feb 21, 2012 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
I wouldnt mind actually seeing a game from the vantage point of the announcers
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 21, 2012 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
Gottlieb has been praising Mizzou....
Arena today. So maybe seeing a game in person will change his mind a little bit?
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
His beef right now is with Mizzou fans
He claims it’s all about his picking them sixth instead of third, but I don’t know why anyone would care about that. I think “Matt Pressey is a disgrace to humanity”, “Look at me, I’m a producer”, “Phil Pressey is only 75% point guard” and “Steve Moore is a flopper” is probably why no one takes him seriously.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
What was the producer thing?
I just can’t believe he can throw those type of remarks about a fan base on his official espn twitter. Hopefully he get a private telling-to for that.
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
During last year's game, he went to the truck and played producer
Screwed up all of the camera angles, talked over the broadcast. I think we all pretty much ignored him until that.
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
Hm.
Was he supposed to do that or did he just have absolutely zero interest in the game?
"I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas, sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches" -Josey Wales
It was an ESPN experiment
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
for me it wasn't really the camera angles
the angle was fine, albeit different, the thing that bothered me was that half of the screen was showing Doug looking at the monitors. I have no idea why I would want to watch a guy watching a tv while I was trying to watch a game.
If I had tickets where his camera was, I would have any problem with it, unless Gotlieb (or anybody really) insisted on covering up half of my view.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
If quite a few fans hold up negative signs about Gottlieb
do you think ESPN will make sure those signs don’t see air time?
Personally, I hope our fans and the Antlers let him have it.
"Myself and my teammates are a bunch of winners," ~ Marcus Denmon
COMMUNITY IS COMING BACK MARCH 15 at 8:00
unless it’s a cruel joke by Dan Harmon and he says something about beware the ides of March.
Anyway, he tweeted it, so you know it’s legit.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
Please, dont be Too Legit
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 21, 2012 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
your tweet legitimacy was established by Jared Culver
don’t stockpile legitimacy.
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That this thread took some interesting turns!
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Absolutely.
Gotta figure the standard deviation is quite high with these.
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I provided a delish cupcake recipe!
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 21, 2012 4:54 PM CST up reply actions
I apologize
As punishment I will relegate myself to the sidelines for tonights live game thread.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 21, 2012 4:55 PM CST up reply actions
Heh...no way, dude!
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Ok, you are the boss.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Feb 21, 2012 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
Doesn't it always?
I consider the Morning Links my water cooler.
by tigers and chiefs fan on Feb 21, 2012 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
I told you guys you needed to behave!
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
by Gaknar on Feb 21, 2012 6:08 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
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