Study Hall: Kansas State 78, Missouri 68
Your Trifecta: Dixon-Denmon-Ratliffe. Your winner: somehow, nobody.
You want to know the worst part? In terms of expected rebounds, Mizzou actually won the rebounding battle.
Kansas State 78, Missouri 68
| Mizzou |
KSU | |
| Pace (No. of Possessions) | 65.5 | |
| Points Per Minute | 1.70 | 1.95 |
| Points Per Possession (PPP) | 1.04 | 1.19 |
| Points Per Shot (PPS) | 1.13 | 1.50 |
| 2-PT FG% | 44.1% | 51.2% |
| 3-PT FG% | 30.8% | 66.7% |
| FT% | 70.0% | 72.7% |
| True Shooting % | 49.4% | 63.2% |
| Mizzou | KSU | |
| Assists | 15 | 17 |
| Steals | 8 | 3 |
| Turnovers | 10 | 11 |
| Ball Control Index (BCI) (Assists + Steals) / TO |
2.30 | 1.82 |
| Mizzou | KSU | |
| Expected Offensive Rebounds | 14 | 10 |
| Offensive Rebounds | 12 | 7 |
| Difference | -2 | -3 |
The Fickle Long Ball
| Opponent | Home | Road |
| No. 24 Baylor | 23.5% | 43.8% |
| No. 31 Iowa State | 52.2% | |
| No. 79 Oklahoma | 27.3% | 58.3% |
| No. 97 Texas Tech | 44.4% | |
| No. 139 Kansas | 37.5% | |
| No. 176 Texas | 56.3% | 16.7% |
| No. 203 Kansas State | 66.7% | 33.3% |
| No. 239 Texas A&M | 41.7% | 29.4% |
| No. 288 Oklahoma State | 42.9% | 38.5% |
Over the weekend, I referenced a piece on Ken Pomeroy's blog asserting that defense has little control over an opponent's 3PT%. It made little sense to me that things would be this random, but let's just say I'm beginning to come around. Apparently the best way to defend the perimeter is to prevent opponents from taking 3-pointers at all, because once they go up, who the hell knows what will happen.
To the right is a table showing how Mizzou opponents (in order of their 3PT% ranking) have fared shooting the longball against the Tigers, both at Mizzou Arena (Home) and in their own gyms (Road). Let's just say that patterns are minimal.
At Mizzou Arena, the four best opponents (in terms of 3PT%) have seen iffy success at best. Texas Tech shot well late, and Kansas shot well early, but Baylor and Oklahoma were dreadful. Meanwhile, the four worst opponents have all shot better than 41%. On the road, the bad teams have mostly struggled (Oklahoma State had one notorious hot streak late in the game, but that was it), while the good teams have caught fire.
The correlation between each opponent's 3PT% ranking and their shooting success versus Mizzou? -0.01. In other words, there is no correlation whatsoever. While Missouri -- a good shooting team -- was missing some open looks, Kansas State was making bank shots so awful that they almost broke the backboard. (And then, yes, they made a lot of open looks, too.) I still believe that defense plays a role in how well your opponent shoots (surely they're more likely to make the wide open looks, right?), but conference play has provided some solid anecdotal evidence that the quality of your defense doesn't really matter, whether I can convince myself of that or not.
Glass Oddity
| Opponent | Home | Road |
| Kansas (54.0) | -2 | |
| Oklahoma (79.5) | +7 | -7 |
| Kansas State (99.5) | +1 | -7 |
| Iowa State (104.5) | +5 | |
| Baylor (118.5) | -7 | +3 |
| Texas A&M (131.5) | +6 | +3 |
| Texas (137.5) | -6 | -8 |
| Texas Tech (254.5) | -1 | |
| Oklahoma State (279.5) | +4 | +2 |
While we're at it, let's take a similar look at how Mizzou has fared on the boards in conference play. It makes almost as little sense.
To the right, you'll see a table that shows Mizzou's rebounding margin (in terms of expected rebounds) for home and away games versus Big 12 opponents (in order of their average OR% and DR% ranking). The overall correlation between opponents' ranking and margin is 0.19, meaning there is actually a correlation, but it is weak. Against the top three teams on the list, Mizzou has been a combined minus-8; against the middle three: plus-9. Against the bottom three: minus-9.
Looking at the somewhat random nature of Mizzou's rebounding and 3PT% defense, one begins to wonder if we're looking at the effects of game-planning and trade-offs. Is it possible that Mizzou is attempting to account for certain opponent strengths and is leaving itself vulnerable to exploitation in other categories (such as wide open 3-pointers)? Just a thought.
(Of course, that goes both ways. Mizzou dominated the defensive glass in the second half yesterday, in part because Kansas State seemed to be focusing on hustling back and preventing transition buckets.
Mizzou Player Stats
(Definitions at the bottom of the post.)
| Player |
AdjGS | GmSc/Min | Line |
| Mike Dixon | 22.8 | 0.73 | 31 Min, 21 Pts (5-13 FG, 2-5 3PT, 9-10 FT), 2 Stl |
| Marcus Denmon | 18.4 | 0.47 | 39 Min, 19 Pts (7-16 FG, 3-9 3PT, 2-2 FT), 3 Stl, 2 TO |
| Ricardo Ratliffe | 15.0 | 0.52 | 29 Min, 9 Pts (3-7 FG, 3-5 FT), 14 Reb (3 Off), 2 Ast |
| Kim English | 6.4 | 0.21 | 31 Min, 9 Pts (4-7 FG, 1-4 3PT, 0-3 FT), 3 Reb, 5 PF |
| Matt Pressey | 2.1 | 0.16 | 13 Min, 2 Pts (1-4 FG, 0-2 3PT), 2 Ast |
| Phil Pressey | 1.4 | 0.04 | 38 Min, 8 Pts (3-11 FG, 2-6 3PT), 7 Ast, 4 Reb, 6 TO, 4 PF |
| Steve Moore | -0.4 | -0.02 | 18 Min, 0 Pts (0-2 FG), 3 Reb, 5 PF |
| Andrew Jones | -0.6 | -0.57 | 1 MIn, 1 PF |
- Honestly, Mike Dixon deserved more than 22.8 Adj. GS points. For a good portion of the game, he was all Mizzou had. It was a nice reminder of just how hard it is to match up with Missouri. K-State flustered Phil Pressey and did a good job of preventing open looks for Marcus Denmon and Kim English, but Mizzou still almost came back from a double-digit deficit, in part because Dixon can get to the rim almost anytime he wants. Even he missed some shots he typically makes (though not as many as his counterparts), but he still ended up with 21 points on just 13 field goal attempts. By necessity, he was much more 2-guard than point, but he has the ability to shift roles like that.
- Per season averages, seven 2-point attempts, nine 3-point attempts and two free throws would net Marcus Denmon 20.1 points. So in the end, he did not have as bad a night as it seemed to me at the time. But wow, has he set the bar high when it comes to clutch 3's. On about three different occasions (once in the first half, about twice in the second), Denmon had a wide open look from long-range that I just knew would go in and spark a Mizzou run. And each time, the ball rimmed out. Obviously it is simplification to say that the bounces simply didn't go Mizzou's way last night, but ... it is kind of true.
- Odd game for Ricardo Ratliffe. Both he and Steve Moore were cowed by K-State's interior length -- they combined to shoot just 3-for-9 -- but Ratliffe still found his way into the trifecta by doing some serious work on the defensive glass. K-State had a decent run of offensive rebounds in the first half, but Mizzou handled itself quite well in this regard, and that was mostly because of Ratliffe, who pulled in more defensive rebounds (11) than the rest of the team combined (seven). The problem, of course, is that K-State didn't have enough offensive rebound opportunities -- they were making too damn many shots.
- For no one is the K-State matchup more difficult than Kim English. He spent most of the first half playing post defense (or at least trying) against someone twice his size, and that most likely took its toll on the other end of the court. Kimmeh was 3-for-3 on 2-pointers but just 1-4 on 3-pointers (including misses on a couple of huge looks late in the game) and, strangely, 0-for-3 from the free throw line. And, of course, he was beaten up enough that he accidentally got a technical foul when trying to angrily bounce the ball to himself and watching it slip right through his hands and high into the air.
- Against slower guards, Phil Pressey can make like utterly miserable. But K-State's Angel Rodriguez has the one quality that can neutralize Flip quite a bit: pure, unadulterated quickness. Rodriguez only scored seven points and did have a couple of turnovers, but with Flip attempting to play ultra-aggressive defense in the second half to spark a comeback, Rodriguez calmly drove past him repeatedly; most of the time, these drives ended up in open looks from 3-point land. Meanwhile, Rodriguez's defense frustrated Flip a bit, too. Granted, at least a couple of Pressey's turnovers should probably be credited to Denmon, who continuously struggled to handle Flip's passes in the first half, but still, there's no doubting who won this individual matchup yesterday.
| Player | Usage% | Floor% | Touches/ Poss. |
%Pass | %Shoot | %Fouled | %T/O |
| Dixon | 28% | 42% | 2.6 | 22% | 48% | 30% | 0% |
| Denmon | 25% | 36% | 2.0 | 23% | 63% | 6% | 8% |
| Ratliffe | 18% | 18% | 2.5 | 50% | 29% | 17% | 4% |
| English | 15% | 40% | 1.6 | 36% | 43% | 15% | 6% |
| M. Pressey | 16% | 34% | 3.7 | 75% | 25% | 30% | 0% |
| P. Pressey | 23% | 27% | 4.6 | 71% | 19% | 0% | 10% |
| Moore | 6% | 16% | 1.3 | 75% | 25% | 0% | 0% |
To the checklist!
Marcus Denmon's Usage% needs to be 23% or higher. (Yes!)
Kim English's %T/O needs to be at 10% or lower. (Yes!)
Kim English's Floor% should be at 35% or higher. (Yes!)
Ricardo Ratliffe's %Fouled should be at least 10%. (Yes!)
Phil Pressey's Touches/Possession need to be 3.5 or better. (Yes!)
Mike Dixon's %Pass should be 55% or higher. (No.)
Steve Moore's Touches/Possession should be at least 1.0. (Yes!)
Considering the style at play and the general rebounding success, it is pretty easy to say that Mizzou played the game they needed to play yesterday. The problem: they shot worse than normal and K-State shot better.
Three Keys Revisited
The Glass. Obviously.
Against K-State, the glass is always the No. 1 key to the game. If you can either neutralize KSU on the offensive glass or punish them for their own lapses on the defensive glass, you have gone a long way toward negating their biggest advantage. Easier said than done, of course.
Expected Rebounds: Mizzou +1
Test passed.
Keep It Up On The Perimeter
KSU is not an amazing 3-point shooting team, but they are streaky. If guys like Will Spradling or Rodriguez knock down a couple of open looks early, they could keep it up. Meanwhile, Mizzou has played fantastic perimeter defense over the last three games -- Baylor shot 24% on 3-pointers, Oklahoma State shot 29% over the first 32 minutes (before Keiton Page got hot against the backups), and Texas A&M shot 29%. One of Missouri's biggest weaknesses has become a recent strength, and if KSU turns into Bad KSU from long range, their odds of scoring enough points to win are minimal.
Kansas State 3-Pointers: 6-for-9 (66.7%)
KSU didn't take many, but they got hot early in the second half, which allowed them to keep their distance while Mizzou's offense heated up. (And that ridiculous bank shot in the first half didn't help matters.)
Attack
KSU fouls more than almost any major conference team in the country; meanwhile, they defend the 3-point line pretty well. It would not behoove Missouri to settle for jumpers. With the way Mizzou shoots free throws -- Marcus Denmon is making 89.8% of his freebies, Mike Dixon 89.2%, Phil Pressey 77.2%, Kim English 73.7% -- and the way KSU's guards tend to commit fouls (Spradling and Rodriguez combine to average 6.0 fouls per game), it would make sense for Missouri to attack and drive as much as possible, even if it results in some blocked shots.
Aside from a first-half stretch that saw them launching some ill-advised, quick 3-pointers, Mizzou really did not do a terrible job of attacking. Granted, 16 fouls for K-State is like four fouls for other teams, but still, Dixon got to the line 10 times, Ratliffe five times, and Denmon and English five times combined. KSU did indeed block some shots and alter quite a few others, but I can't complain about 20 free throw attempts.
Summary
As I mentioned yesterday, we expected this type of game to happen more in 2011-12 than it actually has. Mizzou got into foul trouble, couldn't buy a roll, and just couldn't get the job done, but the bottom line is that it was only Mizzou's third loss of the season, and that, technically speaking, they can still earn a Big 12 banner with some luck and/or a surprise showing in Lawrence this weekend.
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AdjGS: a take-off of the Game Score metric (definition here) accepted by a lot of basketball stat nerds. It takes points, assists, rebounds (offensive & defensive), steals, blocks, turnovers and fouls into account to determine an individual's "score" for a given game. The "adjustment" in Adjusted Game Score is simply matching the total game scores to the total points scored in the game, thereby redistributing the game's points scored to those who had the biggest impact on the game itself, instead of just how many balls a player put through a basket.
Usage%: This "estimates the % of team possessions a player consumes while on the floor" (via). The usage of those possessions is determined via a formula using field goal and free throw attempts, offensive rebounds, assists and turnovers. The higher the number, the more prevalent a player is (good or bad) in a team's offensive outcome. As you would expect, someone like Kim English has a high Usage%, while Steve Moore has an extremely low one.
Floor%: Via Basketball-Reference.com: Floor % answers the question, "when Player X uses a possession, what is the probability that his team scores at least 1 point?". The higher the Floor%, the more frequently the team probably scores when the given player is involved.
Touches/Possession: Using field goal attempts, free throw attempts, assists and turnovers, Touches attempt to estimate "the number of times a player touched the ball in an attacking position on the floor." Take the estimated touches and divide it by the estimated number of possessions for which a player was on the court, and you get a rough idea of how many times a player touched the ball in a given possession. For point guards, you'll see the number in the 3-4 range. For shooting guards and wings, 2-3. For Steve Moore, 1.30. You get the idea.
Anyway, using the Touches figure, we can estimate the percentage of time a player "in an attacking position" passes, shoots, turns the ball over, or gets fouled.
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dont like the helmet, sadly
the uniforms look great, from what the blog shows
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by Jason Brynsvold on Feb 22, 2012 9:15 AM CST up reply actions
Agree the uniforms look fantastic, and not overly crazy.
I hope the helmet I posted above with the all gold tiger head isn’t the permanent helmet choice, but sounds like there will be several options of helmets, jerseys, and pants. The tiger head definitely looks better with the white added
by TheHamburglar on Feb 22, 2012 9:24 AM CST up reply actions
Really not a fan
Of gold as the primary color.
On the screenshots site from the link I posted,
there was a picture showing a white jersey. I’m assuming the gold jersey will be sorta like our alternate jersey. Although can’t have enough gold pants
by TheHamburglar on Feb 22, 2012 9:25 AM CST up reply actions
That this is the first comment on this post
emphasizes how quickly we would all like to change the subject. :)
Basketball is like this — sometimes it’s not your night. Hats off to KSu for playing a great game, hope that we can shake off our subpar play in the first half, and move on. I am proud that there was no quit in the team last night — down 16 they made a run that almost was enough.
Re: 3PT defense
someone else posted this on a previous thread, but I really think the quality of the “open-ness” plays a big part. I don’t think 3PT-success is purely random once a team puts the ball in the air (in other words, don’t think this is like BABIP in baseball, where a pitcher has little control over where the ball goes once it’s hit), since teams for the most part aren’t shooting contested three-pointers.
It’s like you said – the best way to stop a team from beating you with the three-pointer is to stop them shooting three-pointers in the first place. Since most shooters need to have a fairly open look to consider taking the shot from distance anyway, then the ability to defend the perimeter is marginalized once the player receives the ball with an open look.
Or maybe in the end, it really is like BABIP – some pitchers have shown an ability to induce weak contact, especially if they throw a heavy sinker that induces a lot of ground balls. Three-point defense might be like that – the best defense is inducing contested three-pointers, since you can’t defend the shot once its in the air, but you can prevent teams from getting open looks (so that they only three-pointers they attempt are contested).
Rambling a bit, sorry if that doesn’t make sense…
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Taking the BABIP lead...
…open 3-pointers versus contested ones might be like line drives versus grounders or fly balls. The more line drives you hit, the better your BABIP will probably be.
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I agree with your analysis that Mizzou gameplans differently for each team
which is mighty refreshing after the last few years. (Dead horse not dead yet.) That is why I have a lot of hope for the tourney.
It seems counterintuitive that teams have little control over 3-point defense, but I’ve completely come around. Like you said, K-State doesn’t make 6 of 9 all that often, and we don’t make 8 of 26 at home that often, especially given the amount of open looks we missed. If we shoot to our season average, that’s two more made threes…and an even game aside from all of the late free throws.
I thought our offensive execution was excellent in the period from 6:00 to about 2:00
Generally good ball movement to get open looks from three….
Except this:
Mizzou 3PT% first 34 minutes: 8-17 = 47%
Mizzou 3PT% last 6 minute: 0-9 = 0%
Ugh. Every stinking one I thought would go in… what a frustrating ending to the game.
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In hindsight, one thing we did not do defensively that bit us
is our bigs challenging their guards’ 8-10 foot floaters in the lane. Once Macgruder made approximately 35 straight threes (and Spradling made some as well), they used the shot fake to drive, and I can’t fault our guards for playing the perimeter. But it seemed as our bigs were ready to take a charge in the paint, when they should have just put a hand in their face as a help defender. I remember at least five occurrences of this, where K-State guards pulled up and hit a mid-range shot. Good on them…but we cannot rely on a hope that the chance to take an offensive foul will be there every time.
I'm still flummoxed as to hoe Steve could miss so many gimmie layups on a single possesion
"You have to remember, basketball to the University of Miami is like football to the University of Kansas." - Kim English
Does Phil Pressey just turn his head too far and his brain falls out his earhole sometimes?
To my eye, his defensive rotations the last two games (and going back to the Ok State loss and the Kansas game) have been just dumbfounding for stretches. He’s got 3 steals the past 4 games, so he’s not making up for it with forcing turnovers.
Look, I know he wasn’t the only issue last night, but one of our advantages should have been ball control, and it wasn’t a factor – largely due to six turnovers by Flip. I realize that K State has size and athleticism mismatches on the inside, but that just means we have to exploit our mismatches more. We weren’t able to.
What’s done is done, and I don’t think this is a death knell for our season or any such ridiculous notion, but we need Phil to play smart if we are going to go deep in March.
Defense wasn't the problem last night, as gruesome as the numbers may be
A lot of carelessness with the ball in the first half, some shots that came waaaaaaay too early in the second half, and just an unfortunate shooting night for us. Phil did play some dumb ball last night, but most of it was with the basketball in his hand. His D effort was pretty solid, even if the results were unspectacular.
It’s nice that Haith has told him to play less for the steal than he used to. Phil is moving his feet very well and using his hands less than he used to. The refs called some really cheap fouls on him in the second.
There were a couple of cheap fouls, true...
and I think if you take the course of the entire game, Phil’s defense was decent… but there were times when he’s caught wandering around at the free throw line when he should be at the top of the key, things like that. It always seems like it’s 2-3 times in a row, then Haith gets to him in a timeout and it doesn’t happen anymore. I agree that Phil is using his feet better on D as the season progresses, but he doesn’t seem to have figured out how to force turnovers while doing so… which is something we were getting out of him when he was playing ‘incorrectly’. Perhaps my perception of how that’s hurting us defensively is off because I’m not accounting for him contesting more shots.
The main part of his game that hurt us last night IMO was offense. He forced a lot of passes and shots. He’s got skills, no doubt, and when he plays under control he is a very good PG. It’s probably more a function of being a sophomore than anything, but he just tries to do too much at times. He did that a lot last night.
by u2nspenserfan on Feb 22, 2012 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
was more frustrated with his quick trigger on taking the three when Mizzou pulled close in the second half
Ross mentioned it last night, and it’s absolutely true – no Tiger has a bigger feel/desire for blowing the roof off the arena than Flip. I’d rather he stay collected and run the offense, but if the shot goes in, we’re probably fine with it.
Actually, that personality reminds me a bit of Kimmie a couple years ago. Glad to see he’s matured and is willing to be a little more patient, and I bet Flip gets there too. We’ve already seen that from time to time this year, now it’s just a matter of not forgetting it in those moments.
Regarding his defense, I had some problems with his rotations last night, but only a couple of times. The trouble was that KState made the Tigers pay each of those times – chalk it up to another place where Mizzou couldn’t catch a break and a place where KSU seized an opportunity.
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They are making us pay, and that's what's glaring.
It seems when he missteps on a rotation, teams are hitting about 80% of those 3’s. Probably a little bad luck there, but I think part of it is that when you’re 5’9", your footwork has to be about perfect defensively because you just can’t get there quick enough and high enough to contest the shot.
I think the Kimmie comparison is a good one. He’s matured, and I expect Phil will too. But… this year is pretty special, so if he can minimize it this year it would help a lot in those difficult matchup games.
by u2nspenserfan on Feb 22, 2012 10:29 AM CST up reply actions
you can't blame the entire game on luck.
the defense has to take some blame for ksu’s shooting percentage.
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by threadkiller on Feb 22, 2012 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
Why can't you?
K-State played well. Very, very well. They made open shots, took open shots, and shared the ball. Sometimes teams do that. Why do so many upsets happen in the tourney?
The Tigers had to make a concerted effort to get defensive rebounds, not allow putbacks, and prevent Henriquez, Gipson, Samuels, etc. from getting good position. The guards play a role in that, so they have to lay off the perimeter players at times. It just so happens that KSU’s guards shot well above their percentages last night.
This is the biggest downfall of a four guard, seven schollie lineup…as Bill said, tradeoffs have to be made. Our team played the right kind of game it needed to (defensively) to win. K-State made shots, we didn’t.
i guess we're at an impasse here.
agree to disagree.
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by threadkiller on Feb 22, 2012 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
I think you are both agreeing
neither is totally putting it on luck.
TK seems to be saying “the defense has to take a portion of the blame for this”
CBonerfied is saying “it wasn’t our defense that was the problem, it was that we had to crash the boards, which meant that we chose to leave some guys open on the perimeter in the hope that we would win the rebounding game.”
I would say that both statements say the defense gave up open looks, which k-State made, which hurt our chances to win.
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by mizzou2396 on Feb 22, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Well, good for you then!
The luck part above is that K-State shot above their normal percentage on open 3s, though.
Are you like Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn are
at the start of Wedding Crashers? Because I could see you doing that kind of stuff.
take away the wit charm and good looks and
still not really, but close.
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if it's any consolation,
i still think you suck. :-)
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by threadkiller on Feb 22, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
x

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that's why you have to go with a Dyson.
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are they really that much better?
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by threadkiller on Feb 22, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
i might have to try one.
we have a kirby that’s about 12 years old, and i want to throw it off a balcony every time i see it. i haven’t heard anyone say anything bad about a dyson other than price.
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by threadkiller on Feb 22, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
Yes the price is more than others....howevah...
Every button for every change of use or articulation is right where you instinctively think it is…..it is a delight to push around. A DELIGHT!
We have very short carpet, and a very small Apt. It will fill the bin up with one pass over each week. Now that sucks!
We’ve had ours for four years…never a problem.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Feb 22, 2012 4:19 PM CST up reply actions
i went to their website and saw one for 650 bucks.
whew. the idea of no bags with a lot of suction appeals to me, for sure.
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by threadkiller on Feb 22, 2012 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
We registered for one (a slightly cheaper version)
for our wedding not expecting anybody to get it. A number of our friends pulled together and bought it for us. We love it!!!
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the Dyson's don't buffet you
oh, wait, that’s the fans. I have no idea.
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Well, that settles it
Mike Dixon’s passing percentage is the only stat that matters.
yep. dude should have given up the rock last night.
shot way too much.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 22, 2012 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
Not sure if serious...
only guy who could get to the bucket, and our most “F U” shooter out there. I want him shooting when we’re down or close.
I believe he was referring to that stat being the only one of the seven on the checklist that didn't go our way last night.
So since we lost and went 6 for 7 on the checklist, Mike Dixon should indeed pass more.
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oh i was being 100% sarcastic
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by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 22, 2012 7:56 PM CST up reply actions

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