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by Bill C. on Dec 2, 2007 9:36 PM CST
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Print...that just got sent to fans of every BCS team is this: next time you feel the need to complain about your team's awful non-conference schedule, what you should be bitching about is that it's not easy enough. Strength of schedule doesn't matter if you want to reach a big-time bowl, nor do head to head losses. All that matters is total losses. (Unless you're in the Big Ten or Pac-10, in which case all that matters is that you're in the Big Ten or Pac-10.) Our 2008 non-conference schedule may have three cupcakes on it, but the real problem is, we haven't canceled the Illinois game yet. We need to cancel that and schedule Eastern Illinois, and we might just be able to slip into a BCS bowl after all. That's the only logic that can be drawn from the fact that KU had a Strength of Schedule about 100 slots lower than Missouri, and they actually lost to Missouri head-to-head...plus, they don't travel any better and they're probably not even as much of a ratings draw. But hey, they only lost once!
I'm going to go down to Dallas and enjoy myself for the Cotton Bowl. It's going to be a good time, it's located in a place of high Mizzou alumni density, and it's one of our main recruiting bases. But no matter how much fun I have, and no matter how easily some recruits can see us play on January 1, it's not going to change the fact that we just got screwed by two teams we beat, one of whom had the 109th-hardest schedule in the country. Doesn't matter that we went 2-2 against BCS Bowl teams. Doesn't matter that our two losses came to a team infinitely better than anybody KU played. Doesn't matter that our BCS ranking was better. KU was 11-1 and we were 11-2, therefore they got the nod. It sucks, and it more-or-less shows you everything that's wrong with college football, and I'm really uninterested in playing Arkansas again, but we'll make the most of it.
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Carl was right
Bad College Stupid indeed... I had prepared myself to see ku make it, but still it really is ridiculous, especially once I saw that we were #6 in the BCS standings, but at least those Boston Can Suck-it computers finally love us... sigh...
This messed up system
Is there anyone else in the country who thinks kansas deserves this game more than us other than the oh so highly esteemed and intelligent orange bowl committee? If not us, ASU deserved it more than kansas without question. Thank you Lee Corso for saying the truth.
by DeRo on Dec 3, 2007 2:08 AM CST reply actions
One more thing
I completely agree with The Boy. Until some other system is put in place. We need to completely erase any good team from our non-conference schedule, it can only hurt us. There is obviously nothing to gain from playing a team like illinois outside of the conference. Why risk it when it has been proven that a quality win gives you nothing.
by DeRo on Dec 3, 2007 2:13 AM CST reply actions
I posted this somewhere else...
But this is pretty much how I feel...This is the most disgusting thing ever. Missouri beat two BCS teams, had a much stronger schedule, and we're still going to the Cotton Bowl. I will say this - I will not watch a second of a BCS bowl game. I will not use Fedex. I will not buy insurance from Allstate. I will not eat a single Tostito product. I will not use any of Citibank's services. Maybe my money isn't all that much of a loss to them, but when those companies decide to sponsor a ridiculous system that screws over my Tigers, they just don't deserve my hard-earned sheckels any more.
And let me tell you, it is NOT fun living in Chicago right now, when every news report that I see, hear or read says how fantastic it is that U of I is going to the Rose Bowl.
while I could never give up Tostito's...
...it's definitely ridiculous. Like I've said elsewhere, Dallas will be a great time, and if we'd ended up in Miami, I wouldn't have been able to attend. But being screwed over is never fun, and there's absolutely no legitimate case the Orange OR Rose Bowls can make for leaving us out.
Honestly, my perfect non-playoff solution would be for the BCS rankings to determine the 10 teams that get to go to BCS Bowls (and the championship game), then let the BCS bowls fight it out. This year, those 10 teams would have been...
Ohio State
LSU
Oklahoma
USC
Virginia Tech
West Virginia
Hawaii
Georgia
Missouri
Arizona State (I think)
So...
BCS title game would have obviously taken OSU and LSU.
Fiesta could take OU.
Rose could take USC.
Orange could take Virginia Tech.
That would leave West Virginia, Hawaii, Georgia, Missouri, and Arizona State.
To avoid rematches, Missouri's eliminated from Fiesta, and Arizona State's eliminated from Rose. Since the Rose would cry about not getting to take a Big 10 team, they'd get to choose the biggest draw, Georgia. After that, you could use geographic proximity to send Missouri to the Sugar, West Virginia to the Orange, and Arizona State to the Fiesta. That leaves Hawaii for the Sugar, and you end up with...
BCS Title Game: OSU vs LSU
Rose: USC vs Georgia
Fiesta: OU vs Arizona State
Orange: Virginia Tech vs West Virginia
Sugar: Missouri vs Hawaii
Granted, that leaves us with an OU-Boise type of matchup, but that's fine. We wouldn't have complained too much.
As I've said many times in the last 12 hours, in this case, the probably wasn't the BCS. It was that the BCS wasn't used enough. It did its job relatively well, but bowl committees are made of people who obviously don't watch college football (at least not until the night before they have to make their decision), and their independent decisions are where the process broke down.
Oh c'mon...you are missing on one thing
At least you HAVE to know that these decisions were made WAY before Saturday night....if anything, THAT is the problem...but you know all the contingencies had been mapped out LONG before we took the field Saturday night. I am not debating whether or not these people watch a lot of football, but this decision was made before we ever won or lost.
well...
...first of all, the dude from the Orange Bowl said their decision was made while watching Mizzou get whooped. Whether you believe that or not doesn't really matter since, second of all, it doesn't matter when we got screwed. As I said, I'm going to enjoy myself in Dallas, but even though I wouldn't have been able to go to the Orange Bowl, I'd have traded being able to go to a bowl game for getting a bigger bowl, especially this year, when I have so much confidence in my team.
and I would not have :-)
I prefer I be able to go, and more of our fans be able to go, and play in our recruiting hot bed.
And I have read conflicting reports about when their decision was made....I read where it was made some time during the week.
I'm totally on board with that idea...
I was thinking the same thing earlier. We are the only top ten team to NOT be selected for a BCS bowl. We are ranked higher than exactly HALF of the teams invited to a BCS bowl game.
I like your idea...let the bowl games fight over the top 3-10 teams (with 1 and 2 obviously playing the championship game). Though if you're wanting to keep the bowl affiliations alive (which you indicated for the Orange, Fiesta and Rose bowl) then wouldn't the Sugar Bowl get first crack at Georgia?
LSU and OSU play in the title game.
Rose takes USC. (Gets top two pick due to losing OSU.)
Sugar takes Georgia. (Gets top two pick due to losing LSU.)
Fiesta gets Oklahoma. (Big 12 champ)
Orange gets either West VA (Big East champ) or V-Tech (ACC champ)...for this example, give them V-Tech because they won their last game and WV lost to Pitt.
This leaves Missouri, West Virginia, kansas and Hawaii. Drop kansas because you can't have more than two teams from the same conference (they really should amend this to stop a BCS bowl from taking a team if it is ranked lower in the BCS than a team in their own conference. It's a BCS Bowl game, they should be required to adhere to the BCS). Replace kU with Arizona State.
Let the four bowls fight over who gets to have MIZ, WVU, Hawaii and ASU, preventing a rematch from earlier in the season.
Fiesta wants ASU for hometown crowd, meaning the game will easily sell out. Orange takes WVU because it also has ties to the Big East. Taking geography into play (easier travel equals easier to sell tickets) MU goes to the Sugar Bowl, and Hawaii goes to the Rose Bowl (this also has the added benefit of causing the Rose Bowl traditionalists to crap all over themselves).
BCS Title game: LSU vs. OSU
Rose: USC vs. Hawaii
Orange: Virgina Tech vs. West Virginia
Fiesta: Oklahoma vs. Arizona State
Sugar: Georgia vs. Missouri
Oh, and in your above scenario...I've love to see the Tigers line up against Hawaii. The Over/Under for that game could easily have been 100 points.
by RoyalsFanInBillings on Dec 4, 2007 12:02 AM CST up reply actions
that's good too...
...plus, USC vs Hawaii would be the ultimate "Think you're a big boy? Prove it." matchup. Of course, the Rose would never ever ever ever ever think of taking a "lesser" team like Hawaii.
I'm in a different place
I can't get mad about it. I just can't. Because this season has been too great and too fun to get caught up with feeling crappy because we're only going to the Cotton Bowl.
I'd rather focus on winning our bowl impressively, and coming up big in the preseason polls. If there's one thing this season has taught me, besides the scheduling issue, it's that you need to start in the polls if you want to be able to withstand losses.
God, I hate Oklahoma. And I want them again. That's right. Even after they killed us. After they left no question. I want to play them again and again at the level our program is at until we overcome them.
by Ridiculous Matt on Dec 3, 2007 10:40 AM CST reply actions
Cotton's cool...
...I too knew that we'd get screwed if we lost (especially by the Rose), but it didn't prevent me from getting mad about it. I guess I got a little matter since it was the Orange Bowl that screwed us since a) I grew up dreaming of Mizzou playing in the Orange Bowl (granted, that bowl means something different now than it used to, but still), and b) if it was the Fiesta Bowl, I could have at least accepted that they couldn't have chosen us because we'd played OU twice already--the Orange Bowl had to choose between us and Kansas straight up, and they somehow chose KU.
I've heard both
and I heard kU's ad "guaranteed" ticket sales which I don't get. But whatever, would Mizzou get more money (even w/the split) by playing in a BCS than the Cotton. Wouldn't their share be higher?
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